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THE TALK TO YOURSELF THREAD. (NOWT)     

goldfinger - 09 Jun 2005 12:25

Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).

Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.

cheers GF.

Haystack - 07 Sep 2014 12:59 - 45557 of 81564

MSPs are four times as likely to have gone to a private school as the people they represent, according to research carried out by The Herald.

Fully 17% of Holyrood's elected members were educated independently - in contrast to a Scottish national average of less than 4%. However, the Scottish Parliament remains much more democratic in its intake than Westminster, where 34% of members attended fee-paying schools.

Labour has 13% of its MSPs having gone to a private school, a figure that has jumped up from just 4% in its 2003 intake but which is about the same as an equivalent number of 12% among its MPs at Westminster.

aldwickk - 07 Sep 2014 13:05 - 45558 of 81564

goldfinger

just want to know if I read your advice right. , as I am only SB with a £1,000 cash pot is your 2:2 betting plan right for this small sum ?

And have i read it right that you keep risk to 2% which would mean £20 of cash pot, and do you limit your trades to 2% divided by share price = number of shares to buy, which would be 2% divided by 120p = 60 add 00 = 6,000 shares. and in my case i could bet up to £20 a point, but more likely for me £1 to £5 depending on the share

Haystack - 07 Sep 2014 13:06 - 45559 of 81564

Update - Labour lead at 2
by YouGov in Politics
Sun September 7, 2014 6 a.m. BST

Latest YouGov / Sunday Times results 5th Sept - Con 33%, Lab 35%, LD 7%, UKIP 15%

goldfinger - 07 Sep 2014 13:10 - 45560 of 81564

Haystack - 07 Sep 2014 12:47 - 45558 of 45559

"Cameron won't resign. The only calls for his resignation will come from Labour"........ends

Total rubbish Hays its Tories themselves who have been saying Camoron will have to go, those that I have heard so far, Kenneth Clarke, Micheal Heseltine, Teresa May, Hanna Soubrey, and that Davies chap along with Bill Cash on the Daily Politics show.

To my knowledge NO labour MPs have called for his resignation.

Catch up with things Hays, your always days behind.

Haystack - 07 Sep 2014 13:12 - 45561 of 81564

Yougov poll shows only 22% think Cameron should resign. It just won't happen, nor should it.

goldfinger - 07 Sep 2014 13:12 - 45562 of 81564

DO THE SCOTS REALLY WANT THESE MUMMYS BOYS RULING THEM.......I DONT THINK SO.

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Haystack - 07 Sep 2014 13:16 - 45563 of 81564

Why not have better educated people running the country?

goldfinger - 07 Sep 2014 13:16 - 45564 of 81564

Hays if big hitters as I have posted above are saying he will go......HE WILL GO.

I even think he as being admitting this on the quiet himself.

Just think how it will go down in History.

He and his family will be disgraced as will the QUEEN. (think about it)

goldfinger - 07 Sep 2014 13:19 - 45565 of 81564

Better educated people LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL

Rachel Reeves is the highest educated person in parliament. Everyone knows that.

Even Gideon Osbourne claims IDS is THICK.

goldfinger - 07 Sep 2014 13:21 - 45566 of 81564

The QUEEN insiders say is, seething at the moment. She blames Camoron and a light weight cabinet for the present state of affairs.

goldfinger - 07 Sep 2014 13:30 - 45567 of 81564

It’s time to debunk a few common myths about the Labour Party

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The Vox Political Facebook page has become a lively place over the last couple of days – mainly because of the presence of misinformed people purveying hand-me-down myths about Labour Party policies, accompanied by the odd troll who wants to cause mischief by supporting those beliefs, even though they know them to be false.

This makes it a frustrating place for Yr Obdt Srvt, who has had to respond to every other comment with a rehash of explanations provided to other people on other comment threads. It’s like trying to have a conversation in which you have to repeat yourself after every couple of sentences because you’re talking to people who keep coming out with the same – disproved – claims.

Clearly it is time to provide these people with a common point of reference, to which they may refer – it won’t shut up the trolls but at least they’ll look stupid if they’ve been given an answer and still carry on.

So! Let’s have a look at some of these claims.

1. “Labour voted to support the Bedroom Tax and it is hypocritical of them to oppose it now.”

Labour never – categorically NEVER – voted for the Bedroom Tax.

The entire Parliamentary Labour Party (barring possibly any who were ill or had some other reasonable excuse not to be present) voted against the Welfare Reform Act (which contains Bedroom Tax legislation) when it was pushed through Parliament in February 2012. Look up Hansard debates, February 21, where MPs’ speeches, and the way they voted, are reported verbatim.

Since then, the party’s campaigning against the Bedroom Tax has been constant.

If you have been making this claim, you stand corrected.

Do not come to this blog or the Vox Political Facebook page repeating that claim again.

In addition, you should now take responsibility for preventing other people from spreading that falsehood. If you spot anyone doing so, you just make sure they know the facts – along with everyone they’ve been misinforming.

2. “Labour has committed itself to following Coalition spending plans and is therefore no different from the Conservatives.”

The Tory spending limits myth is another one that has to be challenged at every turn because a lot of people misunderstand it.

Firstly, just because Labour has committed itself to keeping the same limit on its spending as the Tories, for one year only, does not mean that Labour will spend the money in exactly the same way!

Too many people make this assumption when there is absolutely no basis for it in fact – including some newspapers, it is sad to report. They got it wrong.

Secondly, government spending for the first year is tied down, to a certain extent, by commitments made by the previous administration. Once those are out of the way, it leaves the board clear for the new government to be as bold as it wants.

And, as the New Statesman has pointed out: “It is worth noting that Labour’s room for manoeuvre is greater than it might appear.

“First, the party’s pledge to match the coalition’s spending totals in 2015/16 does not mean that it has to spend each budget in the same way. In education, for instance, it could devote less funding to free schools and more to schools in areas where demand is greatest.

“Second, the commitment to match planned government spending only applies to the first year of the next parliament: the party is free to outspend the coalition after that and to make greater use of tax rises to reduce borrowing.

“Third, while promising to eliminate the current account deficit, Labour (unlike the Tories) has not pledged to eradicate the total deficit, leaving room to borrow to fund capital projects such as housing and transport infrastructure (provided that the rate of spending growth is slower than the growth in GDP it will still be able to meet its promise to reduce the national debt).”

3. “Ed Miliband is a closet Tory because he has said he wants to govern like Margaret Thatcher.”

Some people seem determined to shoehorn this statement into a belief that Miliband was confessing that he is a Conservative.

He was talking about Margaret Thatcher’s style of leadership, not her political beliefs - Thatcher led from the front, telling her cabinet what she wanted done and expecting them to do it. In contrast, for example, Johon Major was a consensus leader who discussed big decisions with the other members of his cabinet in order to find out their opinions before making a decision.

Now, you might have an opinion on which of those styles is the best, but you won’t even be able to start forming a judgement if you’re unable to recognise what it really is!

4. “We cannot trust New Labour, the party of Tony Blair and his brand of neoliberalism.”

New Labour ended in 2010.

Go to a search engine and type in ‘Ed Miliband new labour dead’ or something similar. The relevant articles are dated around September 26. New Labour was a neoliberal mistake.

New Labour made too many errors – it was a silly experiment to take Labour down the same neoliberal cul-de-sac as Thatcherite Tories. This is why the current leadership has turned its back on the whole project.

Yr Obdt Srvt joined Labour to help turn the party back into what it should be. Yes, there are still New Labour hangers-on, but Vox Political does its bit to expose them for what they are on the blog (as you’ll know, if you’re a regular reader).

We’re not all Red Tory propagandists, you know!

5. “Labour has not opposed any of the Coalition cuts to services or social security. Labour has supported them.”

This misconception seems to have grown from the fact that the Coalition has been able to push through all of the changes it wanted, no matter how damaging – and arises from a misunderstanding of the way Parliament works.

While the Coalition has a majority, it doesn’t matter what Labour does in Parliament - the Coalition will always win the vote.

In fact, Labour has opposed every single cut inflicted on the UK by the Coalition, except in one case where the party abstained in order to win concessions.

Labour MPs and activists have campaigned ceaselessly against the cuts that have led to many thousands of deaths, speaking out in the Commons Chamber, in newspapers, at demonstrations, rallies and public events. They have made it perfectly clear that they intend to hold the Coalition to account.

Claims that Labour “sat idle” for the last four years are dangerous nonsense as some people may believe them without checking the facts for themselves.

Haystack - 07 Sep 2014 14:03 - 45568 of 81564

Labour INTRODUCED the bedroom tax from private tenants They now complain because the government extended it to all housing.

Haystack - 07 Sep 2014 14:04 - 45569 of 81564

And Labour have no policies.

Haystack - 07 Sep 2014 14:06 - 45570 of 81564

Rachel Reeves has the same degree as Cameron (he got a first).

Fred1new - 07 Sep 2014 14:16 - 45571 of 81564

Labour don't want Cameron and Osborne to stand down before the next elections?

Why should they when the pair are playing winning hand for them.

It would be like giving up your best ally because you don't like him.

I say Cameron and Osborne should press on.

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I suppose, there is always Boris to replace them!

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In hope, the Hairy one might vote for him

Haystack - 07 Sep 2014 14:20 - 45572 of 81564

It is possible for the referendum to choose to leave the UK and parliament to vote against it. The referendum is an elaborate opinion poll. The actual dissolution of the union requires a law to be passed.

Fred1new - 07 Sep 2014 14:21 - 45573 of 81564

But I do note that Osborne and Cameron are offering concessions to the peasants and colonies if they don't revolt!

If you were a Scot would you trust this pair or the con party on past experience.

Fred1new - 07 Sep 2014 14:26 - 45574 of 81564

Hayz,

Probably , he was crammed.

Was it his own work or that of a hireling?

Perhaps,, some of the habits of his Bullingdon days and nights have effect him!

hilary - 07 Sep 2014 14:28 - 45575 of 81564

If Cameron's able to get rid of the jocks, he deserves a knighthood. Bring on the sheepshaggers next...

Fred1new - 07 Sep 2014 14:33 - 45576 of 81564

Hazy one,

By-the-way is Boris the con party's Berlusconi and are there others ready and waiting to fill his ----?
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