Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).

Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.

cheers GF.

Yep, the house of commons if full of em.

The big mistake regarding Scotland was letting them have a referendum in the first place. Better to reply with a big fat NO!.

Cameron just wants the best legacy as 'the prime minister who lost Scotland, I think it beats Gordon Browns Gold selling lows, 'the brown bottom' and even Tony (weapons of mass destruction) Blairs 'War Criminal' legacies....

It is difficult to decide on which side to support in the referendum. You have to balance wishing for a NO just to see the smug look wiped off the YES camp and see them descend into abject misery against the pleasure of being rid of 'dour' Scots that have little in common with us or any country. It's a tough choice. Alex Salmond is top of my list of people in need of a good slap.

If Scotland goes then we should have a day of celebration with street parties.

Steady on Haystack, don't paint all Scots with the same brush. I could say the English are a bunch of arrogant know it alls! :-)

The popular betting:

http://www.oddschecker.com/politics/british-politics/scottish-independence/referendum-outcome

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But it doesn't matter if they go. They will just be a bunch of johnny foreigners. We will need to keep them out in the same way as other 'immigrants'. There will be no essential difference between Scots and Bulgarians, Romanians or Lybians. Are we going to get Scottish political asylum seekers? It must mean passports at the very least for travel from Scotland and for Scots living here. They should need visas and work permits and be lumped in with the other immigrants working here illegally.

I may be showing my total ignorance here but, to just have 51% to 49% difference in such a massive decision seems a bit simple . So, say just over half the voters want change with really such unknown consequences is ridiculous.

Do you think it would help if they gave the Royal couples baby a Scottish name.

Remember 'Braveheart'!

We need fully secure armed borders and with triple barbed wire too.

Agree about there should be no difference between Scots and Romanians if they want to vote 'Yes'.

We do not want kilted Scots leaning over our car bonnets sudsing up our car windows and doing our car cleaning! Well, not without proper visas!

Freedom!

They wont even be members of the €uro union.

If Wales could vote yes for Independence , we might be able to deport Fred. Trouble is the internet.

Yes it will be a real treat celebrating Camoron being ousted, street partys indeed.

Britain can't enforce the existing border controls effectively, never mind having another border in between England and Scotland. The whole concept of having an independent Scotland is total madness in my opinion.

If the vote is yes then I think it'll help the northern building sector as restoring Hadrian's wall is gonna take some doing.

LOL.

Hays Hays Hays........

Published: September 8, 2014 6 comments
Lord Ashcroft: Labour’s lead climbs to seven points in my latest Ashcroft National Poll

Lord Ashcroft
By Lord Ashcroft.

Labour lead by seven points in the latest Ashcroft National Poll, conducted over the past weekend. The party is up two points since the last ANP at the beginning of August to 35 per cent; the Conservatives are down two at 28 per cent, and the other parties are unchanged: UKIP on 18 per cent, the Liberal Democrats on 8 per cent and the Greens on 6 per cent.

Post 45617,

Haze the Scots agree with you they should look up to their betters and do as they are told.

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If the separatists win the vote, I wonder if Cornwall, Wales and North of England will want self-government and then put up borders and separate from the UK and charge second house taxes on those outside their borders.

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Watch this space.

From the Parliament website

The Constitution Committee published its report in May 2014, calling for Members representing Scottish constituencies to stop sitting in the Commons from independence day. It made no recommendation on the role of these MPs in the interim, but it called for their status to be resolved before the 2015 general election.

There has been a range of reactions to the prospect of a Yes vote and its impact on Scottish MPs. Suggestions floated by MPs include:

postpone the 2015 general election if Scotland votes Yes
hold the election without Scottish constituencies
hold it but remove Scottish seats at the point of independence

New legislation would be needed to make any of these changes: the date of the next general election is fixed as 7 May 2015 by the Fixed-term Parliaments Act 2011. It would be difficult, but not impossible, to pass relevant legislation in the short period between September 2014 and the dissolution of the current Parliament at the end of March 2015

How many seats would the next Parliament have?

The Parliamentary Voting System and Constituencies Act 2011 allowed for a reduction in the number of MPs to from 650 to 600. The Parliamentary boundary review implementing this has been postponed until 2018, but legislation will be required to alter the rules if Scotland votes for independence. A simple removal of Scottish seats would reduce the present House of Commons by 59 seats to 591. However, the electoral quota used to determine the size of constituencies was previously calculated UK-wide: this would have to be recalculated without Scotland for the new review. Given that work on the next general review is due to start shortly after the general election of 2015 to meet the deadline of 2018, primary legislation would be needed as soon as possible after the referendum, if Scotland votes Yes.
General elections without Scotland

If MPs from Scottish constituencies elected in 2015 left the Commons mid-term in 2016, there would be an impact on the Government’s majority. A UK government elected in 2015 might even lose its majority as a result of Scottish MPs being removed. It is not certain what would happen in this case. The Government could change without an election, if it resigned and another party were asked to form a Government. Alternatively, the existing Government could attempt to carry on without an absolute majority. The Fixed-term Parliaments Act 2011 does not provide for an automatic general election if the Government loses its majority, but it does allow for an early election if a motion is passed in terms set out in the Act.

Currently, of the existing 59 Scottish seats, the Conservatives have one, Labour has 41 and the Liberal Democrats 11. If the 2010 election had taken place without Scotland, the Conservatives would have been the largest party with 305 Commons seats, a majority of nine.