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FTSE + FTSE 250 - consider trading (FTSE)     

cynic - 20 Oct 2007 12:12

rather than pick out individual stocks to trade, it can often be worthwhile to trade the indices themselves, especially in times of high volatility.

for those so inclined, i attach below charts for FTSE and FTSE 250, though one might equally be tempted to trade Dow or S&P, which is significantly broader in its coverage, or even NASDAQ

for ease of reading, i have attached 1 year and 3 month charts in each instance

ThePublisher - 03 Nov 2009 15:05 - 4563 of 21973

"hope for a bounce, and a sustained one at that"

How about some pretties whilst we wait.....

Can't offer you the Dow as I don't track that. But I can show you the S&P 500.

All three charts are showing 3 box reversals. The middle one is a 1% box size which is what most people would use. You'll see the drop to the line that should support and bounce. It has in the past, you'll see.

The top chart is a 0.5% box. Smaller than the norm, but still showing bounce lines that worked.

My bottom chart is 1.5% boxes. Larger than one would normally use and showing now a fight at resistance.

So, Cynic, the vote is two out of three for your bounce.



TP

dealerdear - 03 Nov 2009 15:18 - 4564 of 21973

Thanks for that TP and very pretty it looks too.

Let's hope you're right!

cynic - 03 Nov 2009 19:09 - 4565 of 21973

and reality as i write is that Dow is pretty much b/e ..... let's hope it sustains it and consolidates above once more

ThePublisher - 03 Nov 2009 19:29 - 4566 of 21973

And my S&P is modestly positive at 19.29.

TP

KEAYDIAN - 03 Nov 2009 20:03 - 4567 of 21973

Dow falling.

HARRYCAT - 04 Nov 2009 13:09 - 4568 of 21973

Volatile markets & DOW futures still in positive territory, though drifting.
Looks as though todays rise should be sustained, but with lots of employment data due from the U.S.over the next few days, my guess is that profit taking will be dominant again at the end of the week. Chartists will probably disagree!

cynic - 05 Nov 2009 13:50 - 4569 of 21973

relatively good numbers just out in US re jobless etc has given Dow futures a healthy boost ...... would be nice if it doesn't all play silly buggers later on!

skinny - 05 Nov 2009 13:56 - 4570 of 21973

Dow futures still 30 below where they were at our close last night.

cynic - 05 Nov 2009 13:58 - 4571 of 21973

can't comment .... can only tell you that Dow cash is currently +65 at 9870

cynic - 05 Nov 2009 14:00 - 4572 of 21973

here's the jobless guff ......

Unemployment claims slide
Initial filings for jobless benefits fall by 20,000 to 512,000 in latest week, less than forecast.NEW YORK (CNNMoney.com) -- The number of Americans filing for initial unemployment insurance fell last week, the government said Thursday, with a total figure that was below analysts' expectations.

There were 512,000 initial job claims filed in the week ended Oct. 31, down 20,000 from a revised 532,000 the previous week, the Labor Department said in a weekly report.

A consensus estimate of economists surveyed by Briefing.com expected 522,000 new claims.

The government said 5,749,000 people filed continuing claims in the week ended Oct. 24, the most recent data available. That was down 68,000 from the preceding week's revised 5,817,000 claims.

HARRYCAT - 05 Nov 2009 14:03 - 4573 of 21973

Still the big ones to come tomorrow though:
"Payroll Outlook
Another 175,000 jobs were probably lost in the month of October and unemployment probably rose to a 26-year high of 9.9 percent, economists forecast before tomorrows Labor Department payrolls report. That compares with 263,000 jobs lost in September and would be the smallest drop since August 2008."

skinny - 05 Nov 2009 14:06 - 4574 of 21973

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cynic - 05 Nov 2009 18:01 - 4575 of 21973

Dow currently roaring (again!) and showing at 9975 ..... short term target is now very close at 10025, at which point sit back and watch

cynic - 05 Nov 2009 21:11 - 4576 of 21973

Dow spiked to 10013 and even finished just above 10000, but after hours it has slipped back a bit to 9988 ..... keep watching!

jkd - 05 Nov 2009 21:38 - 4577 of 21973

cynic
do you mean 9998? i think you do. anyway hope this shows i pay attention to you;
regarding ftse i have 3 major fibonaccii levels that i am watching. all 3 are 50% long term retracement levels. being 5114, 5106, and 5015. i find it unusual that 3 such major levels should coincide.current price as i post is 5130.
as always just my opinion
regards
jkd

cynic - 05 Nov 2009 21:43 - 4578 of 21973

5190 looks to be the upper number to watch on FTSE, so not much further to go there either

HARRYCAT - 06 Nov 2009 11:19 - 4579 of 21973

From FT chat today:
"Non farm Friday. Gone are the days when these deserved little more than a cursory glance and certainly no comment. Given that all roads lead back to the capacity or otherwise of the US consumer to spend (and to do this, stay in his/her job), they command more attention than we'd ideally like to give them these days. But they drive a bit more than sentiment. We're loking for 135k in any case, consensus is at 175k. Let's see. elsewhere, we have the yield curve fattening like Christmas Turkey, and a market that has shifted en masse out of beta. Seems our 'buy the quality on these dips' call is about as consensus as we'd least hoped it would be, so perhaps we begin to see a year end squeeze and rotation back into the recently dumped risk names. Hard to tell, as what felt like a large scale pain trade end Oct is, according to our better informed colleagues on the general sales desk, continuing at a less aggressive pace this month. But the big move is broadly done. Gross has come in and our traders tell us that desks are running much tighter limits at the moment. Conditions forming perhaps for a squeeze?"

dealerdear - 06 Nov 2009 14:03 - 4580 of 21973

Unemployment rate appears to be the key. Over 10% which is why the market fell.

IMHO the next two weeks are going to be crucial. The market hopefully will hold and gain ground but I think there are conditions in the market similar to pre-credit crunch and capitualtion is not to be ruled out. If that does happen a whole lot of people will be caught out again unless you stay nimble.

Confidence is key I guess at the end of the day.

dealerdear - 06 Nov 2009 14:13 - 4581 of 21973

Strange thing is the market appears to be in limbo.

When the market rises then apart from the miners/oilies very few sp's go with it. Conversley, when it falls there is no mass exodus.

Imo these conditions can't last and there will have to be give one way or t'other i.e real buyers entering the market or everbody gets out.

We shall see!

HARRYCAT - 06 Nov 2009 15:09 - 4582 of 21973

Nov. 6 (Bloomberg) -- The unemployment rate in the U.S. soared to a 26-year high of 10.2 percent in October and employers cut more jobs than forecast, underscoring why Federal Reserve policy makers say interest rates will remain near zero.

Payrolls fell by 190,000 workers last month, compared with a 175,000 drop anticipated by the median forecast of economists surveyed by Bloomberg News, figures from the Labor Department showed today in Washington. The jobless rate gained from 9.8 percent in September and exceeded 10 percent for the first time since 1983.

Stock futures slid and Treasury notes gained on concern the emerging economic recovery will cool as American consumers retrench. Fed policy makers this week said the economy will probably remain weak for a time and reiterated a pledge to keep borrowing costs low for an extended period.

We will certainly have very bad payroll numbers in November and December, said Harm Bandholz, an economist at UniCredit Global Research in New York who accurately forecast the size of the drop in payrolls. We dont foresee businesses going on a hiring spree anytime soon.
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