Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).

Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.

cheers GF.

Looks like a fail ... Wee-Eck will be doing his pieces.




Independence Referendum Result
Sunday 5th October 2014, 22:00



Against Independence (Fail)

2/5


For Independence (Pass)

15/8


http://www.paddypower.com/bet/politics/other-politics/scottish-politics?ev_oc_grp_ids=451400

Read the comment's about Stephen Hawkins , these Jews are so full of hate and have radicalized views just like the Muslims there are fighting.

https://www.facebook.com/jewsnews?fref=nf

The views expressed on that Facebook site are clearly not representative of most Jews. It is a collection of comments by extremists.

a) over-simplified
b) of course the jews (israelis to be even more accurate) have a core of loonies
c) any way you want to cut it, ISIS is rabidly brutal with an outspoken agenda of wanting to dominate the world and impose sharia law throughout ..... judaism and even the most right wing of zionists do not seek similar

It has 1,200,322 likes

The abuse may not be on the grand scale ISIS wishes, but it still as severe to the individuals who suffer it and just as heinous.

The Facebook page has 1.2m likes because it has general Jewish news and a lot of sensible people post there. The Steven Hawking post has just 424 likes.

lot of sensible people post there

I couldn't find many

The site has become a lot more rabid in recent times. If you look back at 2013 you will find it more normal with some humour.

Looks pretty normal to me....

fred - not that i would expect any other type of comment from you, but suggest you talk to some of the guys who have been serving in afghanistan, iraq, libya and the like ...... pretty unlikely, but it may make you think


max - and what does the unhijacked koran actually say about tolerance, the education of women, modesty of dress etc?

Former chief rabbi of Israel says all we non-Jews are donkeys, created to serve Jews

“Non-Jews were born only to serve us. Without that, they have no place in the world-only to serve the People of Israel.”

A major Jewish religious figure in Israel has likened non-Jews to donkeys and beasts of burden, saying the main reason for their very existence is to serve Jews.

Rabbi Ovadia Yosef, spiritual mentor of the religious fundamentalist party, Shas, which represents Middle Eastern Jews, reportedly said during a Sabbath homily earlier this week that “the sole purpose of non-Jews is to serve Jews.”

Yosef is considered a major religious leader in Israel who enjoys the allegiance of hundreds of thousands of followers.

Shas is a chief coalition partner in the current Israeli government,

Yosef, also a former Chief Rabbi of Israel, was quoted by the right-wing newspaper, the Jerusalem Post, as saying that the basic function of a goy, a derogatory word for a gentile, was to serve Jews.

“Non-Jews were born only to serve us. Without that, they have no place in the world-only to serve the People of Israel,”

Yosef said in his weekly Saturday night sermon which was devoted to laws regarding actions non-Jews are permitted to perform on the Sabbath.

Yosef also reportedly said that the lives of non-Jews in Israel are preserved by God in order to prevent losses to Jews.

Yosef, widely considered a prominent Torah sage and authority on the interpretation of Talmud, a basic Jewish scripture, held a comparison between animals of burden and non-Jews.

“In Israel, death has no dominion over them…With gentiles, it will be like any person-They need to die, but God will give them longevity. Why? Imagine that one’s donkey would die, they’d lose their money.

“This is his servant…That’s why he gets a long life, to work well for this Jew.”

Yosef further elucidated his ideas about the servitude of gentiles to Jews, asking

“why are gentiles needed? They will work, they will plow, they will reap; and we will sit like an effendi and eat.”

“That is why gentiles were created.”

The concept of gentiles being infra-human beings or quasi-animals is well-established in Orthodox Judaism.

For example, rabbis affiliated with the Chabad movement, a supremacist but influential Jewish sect, teach openly that at the spiritual level, non-Jews have the status of animals.

Abraham Kook, the religious mentor of the settler movement, was quoted as saying that the difference between a Jew and a gentile was greater and deeper than the difference between humans and animals.

“The difference between a Jewish soul and souls of non-Jews — all of them in all different levels — is greater and deeper than the difference between a human soul and the souls of cattle.”

Some of Kook’s manifestly racist ideas are taught in the Talmudic college, Merkaz H’arav, in Jerusalem. The college is named after Kook.

In his book, Jewish History, Jewish Religion: The Weight of Three Thousand Years, the late Israeli writer and intellectual Israel Shahak argued that whenever Orthodox rabbis use the word “human,” they normally didn’t refer to all humans, but only to Jews, since non-Jews are not considered humans according to Halacha of Jewish law.

A few years ago, a member of the Israeli Knesset, castigated Israeli soldiers for “treating human beings as if they were Arabs.” The Knesset member, Aryeh Eldad, was commenting on the evacuation by the Israeli army of a settler outpost in the West Bank.

Faced with the negative effect of certain Biblical and Talmudic teachings on inter-religious relations, some Christian leaders in Europe have called on the Jewish religious establishment to reform the traditional Halacha perceptions of non-Jews.

However, while the Reform and Conservative sects of Judaism, have related positively to such calls, most Orthodox Jews have totally rejected the calls, arguing that the Bible is God’s word which can’t be altered under any circumstances.

The Bible says that non-Jews living under Jewish rule must serve as “water carriers and wood hewers” for the master race.

c


The two loony sects sound very much alike.

It is the language and rhetoric of extremism. The aim is to objectify your enemy then anything you do is reasonable. We did it to the Germans in WWII.

You mean the unemployed, and other skivers on benefits.

Ps,


I forgot new immigrants and first, second generation and hybrids.

Interesting letter from "GUARDIAN" Letters

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08 September 2014 10:18pm

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I don't know why anyone thinks that the Tories actually want Scotland to stay in the Union. A few years ago, I read a letter in the Guardian that made so much sense to me as a Northerner, I cut it out and kept it. I'll reproduce part of it here, and hope the author doesn't mind:

"The Tories recognize that Thatcherism entailed selling our national assets and spending the receipts. Blair/Brown did not understand the consequences,
Cameron/Osborne do. Our reducing economy can only sustain a reduced standard of living. The Tory solution is to junk the superfluous elements of society and run the remainder of the country for those who can keep up. Their principal problem will be keeping enough people on-side to get re-elected. This can more easily be achieved by breaking off and discarding those bits of the UK that don't vote Tory".

So if anyone doesn't really understand what the game plan is, I think this sums it up perfectly. I'm sure they'd quite like to get shut of the NW & NE too. So it begins.

(Thanks to Martin L, Denbigh).

Good one Fred.


Not a bad idea, but I'm not sure the present comedians had enough brains to think it up.


Either way, jocks gone would be a win win.