Thought I'd start a new thread as this is going to be a major talking point this year...have not made up my mind yet...(unlike bucksfizz)....but thinking of voting for an exit as Europe is not doing Britain any good at all it seems....

Allways wanted to be a Maths teacher jimmy , but things didn't add up .

Exec,

Not doing badly financially, could be better.

But I am fed up with the infantile or immature antics of a lot of the political "representatives" and the "seeming" basis for their decision making.

The "reported" debates of seems to be at the level of student union debating societies and show a similar lack of responsibility.

Also, like this thread, participants and media seem more interested in character assassination than defeating or modifying arguments or policies to be more feasible and beneficial to "all".

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Yes, I am more than disappointed at so-called Brexit result and the ongoing confusion and chaos it may produce, with little change the "exit" will actually produce.

I still think, that it would be more effective and "cheaper" to negotiate from in the "club" than attempting the same from without.

However, from what I can see, the stumbling blocks and disadvantages of "escaping" from the EU are becoming more and more evident and the progress of the "revolution" will be minimal, even if it will be an expensive and provide a "gravy train" and hopefully a "political coffin" for some of the advocates of "leave".

Character assassination on this thread , hope you include your very self in that Freda , though probably not .

participants seem more interested in character assassination ....... fred, you must have looked in the mirror at last

i disagree with you about the referendum result, though for sure we are all in for an uncomfortable ride
ultimately, i could see no way that there was any will for the eu hierarchy to reform while uk remained in; they would all just continue as before towards an ever more federal europe - not my idea of fun
as previously posted, i hope uk has, at the very least, provided a catalyst for the large minority across europe to make themselves heard for root and branch reform
imo, eu should pretty much revert to being the economic bloc for which which it was originally formed - hence EEC

More stupid comment from Fred .
It's been 3 weeks we don't know how we will fair yet.

Open another bottle Fred. Your Revolution is dead! LOL!!!

My criticism of Cameron and Osborne has proved correct.

Even the new tory "hierarchy" has turned its back them, their policies and their mates.

Interesting that Cruella may live up to her nickname.

We will see.

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Strangely I have a reasonable regard for Davis, at least I think him reasonably honest, while his "co-conspirators" Foxy and Borzi I would think are psychopaths.

While Dumbo is being Dumbo waiting for Freda to take him for walks.

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No character assassination there then Freda , are you a goldfish , regards the ability to remember what you said 2 mins ago .

Senile is the word you were looking for VIC .

Vicky,

Are you constipated as well?

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Ask Dumbo for help.

i must admit, i am sad to see that fred is ever more incapable of dealing with reality and looking to see how that may pan out positively
indeed, i'm amazed that even the regular history lessons have dried up, though fred clearly has not

Prunes .

Fred is senile , i actually feel sorry for him sometimes ,until he starts his love a terrorist rant .

He's stuck in a mental groove which he can't escape from , because he feels he would be belittling himself by doing so , he does say the odd sensible thing but it doesn't last long as he really has set out a path of non conforming .

What sensible thing was that ? i must have missed it .

You were on holiday jimmy .

Who was taking down the Brexit?
The Bank of England governor Carney, the PM Cameron and the Chancellor Osborne, two of them gone, 1 still remaining and he was not impartial meaning he was bias though he should have not, being a Governor...............

Bank of England sees no clear evidence of sharp Brexit slowdown

LONDON, July 20 (Reuters) - The Bank of England said on Wednesday it saw "no clear evidence" that a sharp slowdown was underway in Britain's economy after the June 23 vote to leave the European Union, though around a third of firms it spoke to plan to curb hiring and investment.

The central bank's regional agents - who are based at BoE offices around Britain - said business uncertainty "had risen markedly" but there was little evidence that consumers were spending less either.

"A majority of firms spoken with did not expect a near-term impact from the result on their investment or staff hiring plans. But around a third of contacts thought there would be some negative impact on those plans over the next 12 months," the BoE said.

sure as hell the residential property market (sales) is completely dead
don't know about the rental side

Residential and commercial property dead. Very few sellers at present and less buyers. There does seem to be worries that property prices may fall soon. Chairman only said 'no clear evidence of slowdown'. That sounds pretty cautious.