Will this increase or decrease the likelihood of terrorist actions in America, Europe and the rest of the world?

If you were a member of a family murdered in this conflict, would you be seeking revenge?

Should Tzipi Livni and Ehud Olmert, be tried for war crimes if or when this conflict comes to an end?

What will the price of oil be in 4 weeks time?

ITLOTB
It has nothing to do with Jews. You are the only one making that connection. It has to do with the Israeli government. I know very little about the murder in the settlement or who did it. As far as I can see there is just the assumption that Palestinians did it. It was a terrible thing and no one deserves that. It don't see the same level of condemnation when it is Palestinians killed by settlers and Israeli forces though.

Cynic.

enfranchised(!!) !!!!!!!!!

I would like that form of government, with you and me voting with our hands.


8-)

wankers would de facto be excluded lol

Then, I would have to get a replacement for you!

just have a democratic dictatorship

You must mean like the previous Labour Government under Gordon Brown.

I agree with Greg's last post !!!!!!!
Astounding !!!!!!!

Well done, Greg, you've thought for yourself for once.
Sadly I don't think you'll make a habit of it.

Many considering the present government made up of posers, PR spivs, with the the last labour government, are cursing the way they previously voted.

The country is being been driven by a bunch of "ideological nobodies" who don't know which gear they are in.

Never seen so many reversal of policies within 10mths of a "caring government".

First gear forward and then quick reverse and still blaming the previous owner for the direction he is heading. Waiting for the crash.

Devolving responsibility from the centre (ie. themselves) to local government, but holding on to the "authority" to cock-up any actions.

I thought "Dave" was going to "save" the country, not himself and the bankers.


10mths and more chaos. No doubt he will blame world circumstances and previous government. (Even the public is getting fed up with this mantra and laughing at them.)


A party of "hollow men" and primary school economics.

What a lot of headless chickens.

I gave the coalition at the most 18months, I wonder if I will be right.

Still waiting for our Dave to get into his Spitfire and patrol the no fly zone in Libya.

Mind he is the leader of "The West".

Sorry Milkman of the West!

people don't like the harsh measures being taken ...... understandable but short-sighted ..... personally i am very glad to see this massive deficit tackled hard and fast, painful as it is

Cynic,

To address wastage and debt is sensible and to reduce both is generally useful and therefore gainful. (That applies to all areas of government and business from the board down to the lower level workers.)

However, the rate, methods used and the degrees in certain areas propose by the present government will produce the problems.

I think the government actions will create social disharmony with would expected "turmoil". Doing so,may be this governments intention.

Some of the "Thatcher revolution" was necessary, but it was the haste without "social planning" which provoked many of our present problems.

The problem which Cameron will have is that society's groupings have change and the actions will effect a larger "middle class" who have not programme for the cost of their expectations.

Eg.

1) sending kids to university and the debts those kids will have when they leave universities.
2) paying for "social services" care for the elderly, (their own elderly families.
3) the increased cost of the NHS. (Loss of closer smaller units.)
4) increase in waiting times (people have got close to a walk in service and expected. (good and bad aspects.)
4) Reduce free income, for the throw away society.

and so on.


Cameron's grandstanding, is as hollow as much of Blair's positioning was.

(Short sighted and not allowing for long term planning or growth.)

Unemployment already up 27.000 and the unemployment will increase for the next 1-3 years.

Money could be spent on improving infrastructure of the country and at an increased "spend" would improved both it and the future economic outlook. (Gearing for the future.)

The rush for cuts and pruning and crushing of the Greater Society is due short term political ideology and the hope that the misery that it is producing for many will be forgotten by the next election.
(I don't think that it will be.)


Enough.

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PS

I wonder what the Israelis are up to now that Japan and Libya are in the headlines?

"people have got close to a walk in service and expected. "

That one is a laugh. I had to go to a hospital recently for a few tests. All the different tests were 'walk in' and at two different hospitals. It was up to me when I went. That is I could choose the day and the time. I turned up at one department for a blood test and there was no one there. I mean no patients and it looked like no nurse. Eventually the nurse heard me and came out of one of the consultation rooms. She took a blood sample in less than a minute and that was that. I asked her how this walk in service with no appointments works. She said that she just sits around all day reading the paper or a book until someone comes in. There may be gaps of an hour, two hours or more on some days. That's a really sensible service. Labour should be proud of it. The other tests at another hospital were similar. Maximum waiting time 5 minutes.

Fred - not answering your points at all but

sending kids to university and the debts those kids will have when they leave universities
there is the great con going back many years where there has been fostered the belief that (a) as many children as possible should go to uni and (b) once they come out of there, that the streets will be paved with gold

there are far too many rubbish degrees on offer from 3rd rate unis which have no value whatsoever in the market place

i would like to see apprenticeships brought back into the arena, but small/medium-sized companies cannot afford to offer them ..... it follows that instead of "wasting" money on these rubbish unis, it should be offered to companies to subsidise the employment and training of apprentices

not a snowball's chance i'm afraid, due to what has now become an ingrained culture and (false) belief in a right to a uni education (another misnomer!)

"there are far too many rubbish degrees on offer from 3rd rate unis which have no value whatsoever in the market place"

A good example being hayparrot's "degree" in Hypnotherapy. Totally useless to both man and beast, and even less so after he was crossed off the register.

fuck off ITLOB :-) ...... i was having a rant but also being quite serious at the same time

ITLOTB
It was not a degree anyway. I have chosen not to practice. I did the course mainly out of interest. It would be difficult to be 'crossed off' as you say as there is no register to be crossed off. Where do you think this register is held and what is it? One of the problems with hypnotherapy is that it is not regulated and there is no register.

There certainly are far too many people going to 'universities'. It is interesting that my son's sixth form college refers to the new universities as polytechnics, which is of course what they were before being absurdly upgraded. His college tries to steer the kids away from the new universities and tells them that the qualifications received will be be pretty much useless.

so far so good, but what does that college suggest as an alternative?

They can't offer an alternative. That's part of the problem. Apprentiships would be an alternative for many. The other route is just to leave school at 17/18 and find a job. That's the way things used to be. Now the government expects kids to go to university and study silly courses. The end result is the same. They look for jobs with the only difference that they may now have some stupid qualifications unless they fail them. I have a relative that is at 'university'. She was accepted with no A levels at all. Her 'university' was not even a polytechnic before. It was a sort of vocational college for nurses, police and vicars. The qualification she will get is not recognised by anyone. She only went to college becauase her friends were going.

if you're a hands-on sort of guy, then i guess there's decent qualifications that can be got through city & guilds and similar, and at least those have genuine value ..... however, unless the colleges offering those sort of course also have links to companies who can offer proper work experience, then even they can be something of a con