Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).

Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.

cheers GF.

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have just put £500 on danzeno at Doncaster got 5.2

should win but you never know never put on what you can not afford to lose

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Does that refer to the Coalition government or just the cabinet of the chancers!

Jihadists who want to return home being called traitors by ISIS and should die basically .

45771 - as interest rates now indicated to stay put until 2015 (after the election?), whoever sits in No 10 next will carry the blame :-)

True, second part, first part wrong, rate rise before GE although if Osbourne as his head screwed on hed do it before xmas and cushion the shock with a give away in the autumn statement on 3rd Dec just BEFORE xmas.

Why on earth were all these people cheering Pistorius when he left court? I wonder if a jury would have reached the same verdict.

I've followed this case with great interest and, for what it's worth (which isn't much, I do suppose), I disagree with Thokozile Masipa, the judge in the case.

Apparently, she has clearly indicated her own acceptance, that Pistorius did not intend to kill Reeva Steenkamp and could conceivably have mistaken her at the dead of night for an intruder.

She believed that Pistorius was terrified for his life, and thought Steenkamp was safely in bed when he fired four bullets through the wooden door.

When Oscar screamed in court how he had twice shouted, "Get the f*** out of my house!" I guess she was thoroughly convinced by his delivery of what was stunningly shocking theatrical evidence.

Therefore, she concluded, he could not be guilty of murder.

Professor James Grant, from Wits Law School, said Pistorius could be forced back into the witness box.

"The State is allowed in exceptional circumstances to appeal when the court makes a mistake of law," he said.

He argued that Judge Masipa asked the wrong question - did he foresee the possibility of killing Steenkamp - when she should have asked whether he *could* have foreseen the possibility of killing whoever was behind the door.

"So Gerrie Nel - the prosecutor - could put Oscar back on the stand again."

Pierre de Vos, a constitutional law expert, agreed and tweeted: "Surely if you shoot into the door of a small toilet and know somebody is behind the door, you foresee and accept possibility of killing?"

This is my view and it is also the view of Reeva Steenkamp's family and friends.

There is evidence missing and this is currently in the media and is being spoken about by one of Oscar's ex-girl friends, namely Samantha Taylor:

Samantha Taylor said she feared he would kill her and revealed she once hid his gun after he flew into a rage at her

Hmmm? No wonder Reeva locked herself into the toilet. She WAS inside the toilet and she HAD locked herself in. She did not want to come out. It just might have been the case that she did not want to argue with or speak to Oscar at that time too. I wonder why that might have been the case?

I think this is NOT over yet and I do hope we see gun crazy, easily angered Oscar Pistorius back in court after an appeal on the verdict and possibly that verdict then changed to Murder......

....any year soon.

he can still be locked away for about as long and with rather fewer grounds on which to appeal

If you think there is an intruder inside the crapper, and you have a gun.

All you have to do is guard the door, whilst your girlfriend phones the security guards (you know, the girlfriend who is tucked up in bed)

It is not a question of whether the Judge thought that he committed murder. I can imagine that she thought he did. It is the lack of evidence of intent that is required for murder. It will be interesting to see the sentence. That may indicate how close she was to a murder verdict. We will have to wait about a month before sentencing.

If you own a gun and think you have an intruder in your toilet, before you start shooting don't you shout something along the lines of -----"I've got a loaded gun, so come out with your hands behind your back". To say that Pistorius seems to have been given the benefit of any doubt is putting it mildly. The gun laws in South Africa seem to be as non-existent as the gun laws in America.

Youve got to remember though that S Africa is still a very violent country when it comes to the blacks who regulary break into the rich white populations houses and burgal/steal from them.

My late Fathers best freind at work went out to live there and was knived to death when he caught them in the act, this was within only having being there 6 months.

I can understand people living at their wits end and carrying guns if that happens.

Wether the bloke is guilty or not Im not quite sure, I would have prefered a jury to have made the decision.

The judge said that there was no evidence that he thought he would kill the person on the other side of the door. Had there been no door and he shot at the person then it would have been different. The state can appeal the verdict. Even with a jury, the judge would have directed them in the same direction.

Fire four 9mm rounds through a door, but expect not to hurt someone on the other side?



What are you smoking?

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