goldfinger
- 09 Jun 2005 12:25
Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).
Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.
cheers GF.
TANKER
- 14 Sep 2014 17:44
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Anyone in the uk or USA in that fact linked to these skum bags whole family should b kicked out and passports taken away ! Stop being too soft this problem needs fixing ASAP before it gets out of control !
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2755210/British-jihadist-medical-student-21-pictured-holding-severed-head-wearing-white-doctor-s-jacket.html#ixzz3DJDdjKPM
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very true the families of these people must be kicked out of the uk
muslims killing in the name of allah evil religion
TANKER
- 14 Sep 2014 17:49
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any one using a Asian outlet is aiding terrorists , stop using the outlets
the money buys weapons and is used to behead people
stop all over sea aid now do not give money to any muslim country
TANKER
- 14 Sep 2014 17:50
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when you enter a Asian outlet think were might your money go
Haystack
- 14 Sep 2014 18:32
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Asian shops are excellent. They are usually run better than English shops. They have a better idea of service to the customer. Longer opening hours and larger stock. Most Asian people are very pleasant and not the slightest bit interested in terrorism.
MaxK
- 14 Sep 2014 19:26
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I think Tanker was thinking along the lines of the take-aways.
TANKER
- 14 Sep 2014 20:22
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cynic I do think . why are the muslims in the uk and the world not condemning the scum killing in the name of their ALLAH .IF THE MUSLIMS IN THE UK ARE AGAINTS THESE SCUM WHY ARE THEY NOT REPORTING THOSE THAT HAVE GONE AND NAMEING THE MURDERER IN THE VIDEOS THEY KNOW WHO HE IS ITS ONE OF THEIR SONS .
THEY SAY THEY ARE A VERY CLOSE FAMILY . THEY ARE EITHER LIARS OR AGREE WITH THE SCUM
SIMPLE AS THAT
THEY MUST NEVER BE ALOWED BACK IN THE UK ONLY TO BE HUNG
TANKER
- 14 Sep 2014 20:27
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HAY . ASIAN OUTLETS LOOK AT ROTHERHAM
OXFORD ROCHDALE WELLINGTON LONDON CARDIFF AND MORE
HAYS DO YOU NOT BELIEVE THEY RAPED YOUNG CHILDREN DO YOU THINK IT NOT REAL
MaxK
- 14 Sep 2014 20:33
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Now this is worth a few minutes of your time...might even get our "servants" to take notice of what we say.
Note My Vote: Now you stand a chance of influencing your MP
Mark Leftly Author Biography
Sunday 14 September 2014
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/note-my-vote-now-you-stand-a-chance-of-influencing-your-mp-9731526.html
Members of Parliament might soon be forced to do something many of them haven’t thought about for years: consider the views of their constituents.
Michael Simpson, a researcher for Conservative MP Tim Loughton, has set up Note My Vote, a website where people can vote on forthcoming legislation. Mr Simpson, 28, will send the results, broken down by constituency, to every MP a few days before they vote in the House of Commons. Mr Simpson believes it will make MPs more “accountable” to their constituents.
“Working for an MP I realised that there wasn’t a platform where people could have a direct influence in democracy. MPs will have a concise statistic on how people feel about an issue. It is also about making MPs more accountable to their constituents.
“There are some very effective MPs who do listen to their constituents, but maybe sometimes it’s difficult for them as there is no platform for them to know whether their constituents are for or against a particular issue.”
The website will formally launch on 26 September, with a poll on the EU Referendum Bill, which MPs will vote on next month. This will show how many constituencies really have an appetite for an in-out referendum on the UK’s continued membership of the EU.
A second poll will be held on the Wild Animals in Circuses Bill. This aims to prohibit the use of wild animals in circuses, though there is unlikely to be sufficient Parliamentary time for it to become law before the general election.
Note My Vote has been piloted largely in Mr Loughton’s East Worthing and Shoreham constituency in West Sussex, with broader questions over Scottish independence rather than legislation.
More than half of the 212 people who voted in East Worthing and Shoreham said that they wanted to see border controls between Scotland and the rest of the UK if the union is broken-up after this week’s referendum. More than three-quarters of them also said that there should be no currency union with Scotland and 79.91 per cent want an English assembly to be established in the event of independence.
Mr Simpson, who funded the operation himself, is now crowdsourcing to raise further money for the project.
TANKER
- 14 Sep 2014 20:33
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time for the powers to go in and wipe them out for good and take NO PRISONERS
MaxK
- 14 Sep 2014 20:34
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Here is the site, to save you having to look:
http://www.notemyvote.co.uk/
TANKER
- 14 Sep 2014 20:37
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HAYS ASIAN SHOPS ARE NOT CLEAN SELL OUT OF DATE PRODUCTS ALTER DATES
AND WOULD NEVER BUY FROM THEM THEY DO NOT KNOW WHAT CLEAN MEANS
NEVER WASH THEIR HANDS HAVE WATCHED THEM MANY TIMES IN MY LAST JOB
UNBELIEVABLE TO SEE IT WITH YOUR OWN EYES WHICH I DOUBT YOU HAVE
TANKER
- 14 Sep 2014 20:42
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IF YOU WANT A GOOD HEALTHY LIFE DONT EAT CRAP FOOD COK IT YOUR SELF
AND THEN YOU KNOW ITS CLEAN AND NOT GOING TO MAKE YOU ILL
NOW GOOD BYE OFF ON A LITTLE HOL TO MALTA
required field
- 14 Sep 2014 21:38
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I reckon that if the Scots (and I hope not) decide to be done with the Albion (not sure if that is the right word but sounds good) : it might mean the demise of the pound and the UK (as a whole) being forced into joining the Euro before total independence by Scotland....I presume that the No vote will just clinch it.....avoiding a major embarrassment for the British government !...
MaxK
- 14 Sep 2014 21:49
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Why would the quid suffer?
It's a win-win scenario if we can offload a large bunch of hangers on, and their attendant costs.
As for being forced to join the €uro, where do you get that notion from?
Quite the reverse imo!
aldwickk
- 14 Sep 2014 21:55
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RF
They are called Scot's , not Scottish
Chris Carson
- 14 Sep 2014 22:22
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An independent Scotland would be less safe
Terrorists would strike the new nation, or the rest of Great Britain, more easily after a Yes
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9:52PM BST 14 Sep 2014
CommentsComments
When I, as a Scot, was being interviewed, 10 years ago, as a possible Conservative candidate for Kensington and Chelsea, in the heart of London, I was asked where my first loyalty lay. It was not a hard question. My loyalty was to the United Kingdom.
The genius of the Union has been that it has enabled us all to combine that loyalty to Britain with the strong patriotism that we feel as English, Scots, Welsh or Northern Irish. On Thursday over 4 million Britons will be asked to choose between these identities, and to sunder a Union that goes back not merely to 1707 but to 1603.
It is often forgotten that while the parliaments were united in 1707 the king, after 1603, did not just reign but ruled over the whole of the British Isles. Whether king or Cromwell, the Armed Forces and the foreign policy of the whole of Britain were determined by one government.
The SNP has made it clear that an independent Scotland would have its own armed forces, intelligence agencies and foreign policy. It has boasted that we could have one part of our island at war while the other part, Scotland, remained neutral. This should not be taken lightly. It is what happened during the Second World War, when Ireland declared neutrality and closed its ports to the Royal Navy, even during the Battle of the Atlantic. It is that serious.
As a former defence and foreign secretary, I have to say that the argument that a Scottish army would provide the same security as we have now would be laughable if it was not so worrying. On Mr Salmond’s own numbers, the proposed army would be 4,700 strong, which would mean combat forces of around 1,700. This would hardly make an aggressor tremble. In addition, by removing Trident from Faslane, the UK could lose the ability to protect itself against a nuclear-armed state.
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There is also disturbing immaturity in the nationalists’ assertion that the work of MI5 and GCHQ in preventing terrorist outrages in Scotland, as elsewhere in Britain, would be provided by a new Scottish intelligence agency. Do they not realise that counter-terrorism cannot be provided simply by building, a budget and newly recruited staff? It has taken MI5 and GCHQ more than 70 years to achieve their expertise. Scotland would become a much easier option for terrorists to commit outrages there or as a back route to England and Wales.
This is, in any event, not merely a debate about national defence or the economic consequences of separation, hugely important though they are. There are values, ideals and principles at stake as well as emotion. The choice in the referendum is not, as is often suggested, between head and heart. Both head and heart, for every Scot, should lead to “No Thanks” to the separation of Scotland from England, Wales and Northern Ireland.
The United Kingdom and our British national identity is not artificial. Nor was the Union a historic mistake as the nationalists claim; it would not have lasted more than 300 peaceful years if it had been. The Scots, English and Welsh have been British longer than Americans have been American. To force people to choose between their Scottish and British identity is as unprincipled as it is foolish.
Separation would tear apart families as well as countries. Many Scots will have an English or Welsh parent, spouse or other relative, as I do. The risk of independence is a source of anguish in such families.
All the inhabitants of this small island fought side by side in two world wars to defend our common island. Independence would destroy the Armed Forces that have protected us for 400 years.
The legitimate aspirations to extend social justice and end poverty are a powerful case for the Union, not for separation as the nationalists declare. What case is there for thinking the elimination of poverty is a less of a priority in Liverpool or Swansea than in Glasgow?
Scotland, like the rest of the UK, is among the most prosperous countries in the world, not least because of the Union. Yes there are foodbanks in Scotland. There are foodbanks in Kensington as well.
Further, the nationalists make themselves ridiculous when they argue that the Scots, English and Welsh have now so little in common that we should no longer sit together in the House of Commons to deal with matters affecting the whole of the British Isles. At the same time, they are desperate to get into the EU. They appear to believe it is acceptable to limit Scottish sovereignty by being subject to decisions by 27 countries in the European Parliament and Council of Ministers on trade, industry, agriculture, fisheries and a host of other matters. If we can share sovereignty with the EU, it is surely legitimate to share it with our fellow citizens in the Commons.
Finally, if the UK was to fall apart it would send a depressing message to the world, where, as in Ukraine and the Middle East, countries are trying to avoid nationalist conflicts and forge international agreements to advance peace, democracy and the rule of law. We are seen, historically, as one of the most successful countries. Our forefathers built a new British nation out of old adversaries. No wonder world leaders from the US, Canada, Australia and others have expressed concern and incomprehension at what might happen this week. Mr Salmond has received support from only North Korea, which says it all.
In preserving the UK we not only have an obligation to ourselves and our children. We must not distress our friends around the world. Only the enemies of Western values would take comfort from Britain’s break-up.
At a meeting in the Borders last week I was given, by an elderly lady, a copy of a message that Roosevelt sent to Churchill in 1941 when the United Kingdom faced its greatest ever threat. The message from Roosevelt was a quote from a poem, O Ship of State by Henry Wadsworth Longfellow:
Sail on O Union strong and great
Humanity with all its fears
With all the hopes of future years
Is hanging breathless on thy fate.