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Israeli Gaza conflict?????? (GAZA)     

Fred1new - 06 Jan 2009 19:21

Will this increase or decrease the likelihood of terrorist actions in America, Europe and the rest of the world?

If you were a member of a family murdered in this conflict, would you be seeking revenge?

Should Tzipi Livni and Ehud Olmert, be tried for war crimes if or when this conflict comes to an end?

What will the price of oil be in 4 weeks time?

Fred1new - 16 Mar 2011 12:36 - 4598 of 6906

Hays.

Your experience of hospital outpatients is different to mine. I wonder why.

Check the waiting times for major surgery in 1997 and compare them to 2010.
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Cynic,

I have a similar opinion to you of some of changes in Education and in particular the universities.

I was working at a university during the 70s -90s when the Thatcher government introduced the market economy to them. (or them to the Market economy).

I thought the relabelling of some institutions was crazy and destructive of the some main core universities.

Market forces led to the introduction of Mickey Mouse degrees in order to attract money in order to keep some universities functioning.

I personally don't think that universities are the correct places for many courses that they are running. But do think there should be state funded ongoing adult education for those who wish to pursue non-core subjects.

Also, believe that there should be increase in the number of apprentices etc. unless they are Mickey Mouse and considered as cheap labour.

The number of apprentices in the labour force was reduced dramatically by Maggies cut backs and the crazy rapid shrinkage of heavy industry.

I think the expansion of the university students was over optimistic and frankly stupid, but university education should be accessible by those who merit it academically and not based on the ability to pay.
I was lucky to go to university, didnt consider it a route to a golden idol, but certainly benefitted financially from doing so.
It does dismay me, that nowadays many choosing university courses are often chosen by what they expect the ultimate financial returns to be, rather than interest or value in the subjects being studied.

Due to family income, I had fees paid but little else.

My father paid for my upkeep, as he did for my brother and was satisfied by the outcome, but there were many at university at my time, who would not have been in university without the financial support of the state.

They paid their dues to society by becoming teachers, lecturers, researchers and various management jobs in business.

Also, they paid, or are paying tax, at a suitable level to their income.

It is a question of what you value in a society.

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It is strange how you wish to move from the topic of this thread. 8-)

aldwickk - 16 Mar 2011 12:42 - 4599 of 6906

My wife's son who is 16 is coming over from the Philippines on a settlement visa and plans to go to collage / uni until he is 18 , i got no idea what it will cost. Would the Open university be cheaper ? thinking of business study's.

cynic - 16 Mar 2011 12:50 - 4600 of 6906

too much idiotic comment on this thread as it is meant to be!

i am very happy for students who have academic ability to go to uni, and there are many degrees that may be classed as "non core" that have genuine value
i am equally happy that those who need subsidising should receive it
however, i am very UNhappy that university is now portrayed as a right and an end in itself

i admit that maggie eventually lost the plot, but by golly she didn't half do a great job beforehand
we should all be eternally thankful to her, not least for breaking the stranglehold that the luddite and hard left unions had over a broad spectrum of all businesses and industries

aldwickk - 16 Mar 2011 13:01 - 4601 of 6906

Yes, and she had the foresight to stop free milk to school kids otherwise we would have had many more fat 60 year old's

And she got us a big rebate from the EU. she was the only Prime Minster that would have stood up to for this country.

In The Land of the B - 16 Mar 2011 13:01 - 4602 of 6906

"fuck off ITLOB :-) ...... i was having a rant but also being quite serious at the same time "

Forgive me, cynic, but I can't resist the temptation to highlight the parrot's idiocy :)

In The Land of the B - 16 Mar 2011 13:05 - 4603 of 6906

"One of the problems with hypnotherapy is that it is not regulated and there is no register. "

No wonder parrot felt he might succeed LOL !

Haystack - 16 Mar 2011 13:08 - 4604 of 6906

I am an IT consultant. The hypnotherapy was just an interest.

In The Land of the B - 16 Mar 2011 13:25 - 4605 of 6906

ooo....errrr............bully for you.
What's your speciality?
Copy and paste ? LOL

Fred1new - 16 Mar 2011 13:47 - 4606 of 6906

Is that why you often seem asleep! O-)

In The Land of the B - 16 Mar 2011 14:01 - 4607 of 6906

No, it's because his brain has never woken up

Haystack - 16 Mar 2011 18:58 - 4608 of 6906

George Osborne today won crucial backing from an influential think tank for his tough plans to tackle Britain's growing debt mountain.

With the Chancellor due to deliver his Budget next week, the Paris-based Organisation for Economic Co-operation and Development said he had struck the "right balance" between cutting the deficit and encouraging growth.

In The Land of the B - 16 Mar 2011 20:41 - 4609 of 6906

Yes, that's another astounding, world-shattering message from Greg the Parrot, IT Consultant in Copy and Paste.

Fred1new - 17 Mar 2011 08:37 - 4610 of 6906

Yougov poll suggest that Toies are 11points against Labour.

Coalition manifestos torn up.

Directionless government.

Making policies on the hoof.

Think there should be an election now.

8-)


I await to see the effects of any policy this present confused government introduce.

Fred1new - 17 Mar 2011 08:38 - 4611 of 6906

How much oll were we getting from Libya?

cynic - 17 Mar 2011 08:44 - 4612 of 6906

UK? - probably very little ..... i think this was very much french territory via total

aldwickk - 17 Mar 2011 08:46 - 4613 of 6906

The Toies weren't in the Yougov poll and Libya has no oll

cynic - 17 Mar 2011 08:48 - 4614 of 6906

well spotted aldo - lol

Haystack - 17 Mar 2011 12:06 - 4615 of 6906

Italy is the biggest user of oil from Libya.

Fred1new - 17 Mar 2011 12:38 - 4616 of 6906

Aids,

Sorry I was thinking of you. Meant toy boys!

Your other problem, check!



8-)

aldwickk - 17 Mar 2011 12:52 - 4617 of 6906

You were only thinking of me because you thought i was a young boy ..... you dirty old man.
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