Sharesmagazine
 Home   Log In   Register   Our Services   My Account   Contact   Help 
 Stockwatch   Level 2   Portfolio   Charts   Share Price   Awards   Market Scan   Videos   Broker Notes   Director Deals   Traders' Room 
 Funds   Trades   Terminal   Alerts   Heatmaps   News   Indices   Forward Diary   Forex Prices   Shares Magazine   Investors' Room 
 CFDs   Shares   SIPPs   ISAs   Forex   ETFs   Comparison Tables   Spread Betting 
You are NOT currently logged in
 
Register now or login to post to this thread.

Gordon Brown is ruining UK economy (GORD)     

hlyeo98 - 16 Apr 2008 19:41

Brown's spend, spend, spend during his Chancellor's days has brought us into the current economy we are facing today. His appeal at a Downing Street meeting for the lenders to pass on cuts appeared to fall on deaf ears with HBOS, which owns the Halifax, increasing its rate on some mortgages from 6.09 to 6.59 per cent. Borrowers taking out this type of deal will now pay 46 more a month. On a two-year tracker, the rate will increase from 1.49 points above base rate to 1.99 points, giving a current rate of 6.99 per cent.

Other lenders are expected to follow Halifaxs lead.

If the Government wants the banks to lower mortgage rates to home owners - why not just offer them through Northern Rock? Everyone would rush to the Rock to get the loans forcing banks to match the rates or lose the business? Or maybe the government would then run into bigger credit crunch?


marni - 08 Jun 2009 20:08 - 460 of 518

i wouldnt ride purnell!! but i would a wooden horse.

marni - 08 Jun 2009 20:08 - 461 of 518

purnell looks like a small boy in primary school

ChuffChuffChaser - 08 Jun 2009 20:46 - 462 of 518

Gus
Just read Frank Field's comments. At least there is someone with some shred of integrity and honesty left who is not cowed by the bully-boy tactics of the whips and other political thugs who do the dirty-work of the leadership of the most self-serving, incompetent, arrogant, corrupt political dregs of the last 30 or 40 years.

marni - 08 Jun 2009 23:00 - 463 of 518

stalin would have had the whole lot shot including brown and darling. stalin would despise browns huge pension and brown and darling misuse of expenses or housing.......death is the only consequence for this

hlyeo98 - 09 Jun 2009 08:24 - 464 of 518

Cameron is probably hoping for Gordon to hang on as he has an edge on him and also guarantee him on the course for a landslide victory in the next election.

ChuffChuffChaser - 09 Jun 2009 09:09 - 465 of 518

Brown is very prone to gaffes, mistakes and calamaties so Cameron is quite possibly biding his time. Whatever went on yesterday the party lackeys will still try to serve their own self interest and at the first sign of any hiccup with Brown they will all jump on him again. It's only a matter of time before it all falls apart.

Guscavalier - 09 Jun 2009 09:30 - 466 of 518

This whole thing stinks. To me, the whole purpose of this may be to hold out so that the Lisbon Treaty can be ratified without giving the electorate a referendum. If the Tories were in Government before ratification a referendum would be held. All hell could be let loose over this in a few months as this begins to be realised by the public in general.

Fred1new - 09 Jun 2009 11:44 - 467 of 518

In spite of all the huffing and puffing, it seems that GB has survived to fight again.

I wonder if the labour party will be invigorated by the past few months, knock a few heads together and be allowed to publish their future policies.

Also, interesting to see what the "expenses" and financial clean up of the parliament will produce.

Think Wisteria has blown it.

moneyplus - 09 Jun 2009 11:55 - 468 of 518

I don't think we could have an election before october anyway because of the looong summer break they all need! They just want to hang on now for max pensions and pay offs. Whoever gets in will have a nasty mess to deal with and the electorate will not like the medicine---repeat of the Thatcher scenario! She had the guts to see it through will Cameron and Osborne?

halifax - 09 Jun 2009 13:27 - 469 of 518

At least Cameron may give us a parliament for England without those north of the border being allowed to vote on English matters.

Fred1new - 09 Jun 2009 13:59 - 470 of 518

Little England needs every possible help to take decisions about its problems.

I don't think Eton produces an adequately educated group for doing it by themselves.

Without the Celts the English would be lost.
8-)

Haystack - 09 Jun 2009 14:04 - 471 of 518

I think you would find that old Etonians make up some of the best educated people in the UK.

A handful of the many famous people who have been to Eton

Robert Boyle 1627 - 1691 Boyle's Law
John Frederick William Herschel 1792 - 1871 Astronomer
John Maynard Keynes 1883 - 1946 Economist
Sir Ranulph Fiennes 1944 ) Explorer
Captain Lawrence Oates 18801912 Explorer
Humphrey Littleton 1921 - 2008 Musician
Aldous Huxley 18941963 Writer
Sir Ludovic Kennedy 1919 Broadcaster
Peter Benenson 1921 Founder of Amnesty International
Thomas Lynch Jnr 17491779 Signatory of the American Declaration of Independence

37 Old Etonians have won the Victoria Cross

halifax - 09 Jun 2009 15:49 - 472 of 518

The SNP continue to win against labour in Scotland, thus eroding the labour power base which enables them to rule England. Unless new/old labour can retain seats in England they will be wiped out by this "pincer" movement at the forthcoming general election.

Fred1new - 09 Jun 2009 16:25 - 473 of 518

I have to admit I did admire Humphrey and a few of the others mentioned.
I am not certain that 37 Victoria crosses has much to do with intelligence, but some of the others mentioned certainly have had intellectual ability.

But would have expected a far broader and lengthy a list for more than 27,000 a year. (ie. without any extras.)

I suppose the present and long may it last "shadow cabinet" could be call the Etonian second team or perhaps the Burlington Club seconds.

Even Haystack may wish there is a God if this shadow, or shallow lot ever got into power.






















8-)


halifax - 09 Jun 2009 16:41 - 474 of 518

It amazes us that in a so called democracy respect canot be given to the vast majority that recently voted against a labour government which had only 15% of the total vote. Ostriches and sand spring to mind.

Haystack - 09 Jun 2009 17:06 - 475 of 518

OK Fred. The list above was a random selection

You want a proper list. :-

Prime Ministers

Eighteen Old Etonians have been Prime Minister of Great Britain and one has been Prime Minister of Northern Ireland. One is currently Prime Minister of Thailand.

In chronological order of office:

Walpole, Sir Robert, KG, 1st Earl of Orford (16761745) PM 17211742
Pitt, William, 1st Earl of Chatham (17081778) PM 17561757, 17571761 and 17661768
Bute, John Stuart, 3rd Earl of (17131792) PM 17621763
Grenville, George (17121770) PM 17631765
North, Frederick, 8th Baron (17321792) PM 17701782
Grenville, William, 1st Baron (17591834) PM 18061807
Canning, George (17701827) PM 1827
Wellington, Arthur Wellesley, 1st Duke of (17691852) PM 18281830 and 1834
Grey, Charles, 2nd Earl (17641845) PM 18301834
Melbourne, William Lamb, 2nd Viscount (17791848) PM 1834 and 18351841
Derby, Edward Stanley, 14th Earl of (17991869) PM 1852, 18581859 and 18661868
Gladstone, William Ewart (18091898) PM 18681874, 18801885, 1886 and 18921894
Salisbury, Robert Cecil, 3rd Marquess of (18301903) PM 18851886, 18861892 and 18951902
Rosebery, Archibald Primrose, 5th Earl of (18471929) PM 18941895
Balfour, Arthur (18481930) PM 19021905, later 1st Earl of Balfour
Eden, Sir Anthony (18971977) PM 19551957, later 1st Earl of Avon
Macmillan, Harold (18941986) PM 19571963, later 1st Earl of Stockton
Douglas-Home, Sir Alec (19031995) PM 19631964, formerly 14th Earl of Home, later Baron Home of the Hirsel

Chichester-Clark, James (19232002) PM of Northern Ireland 19691971, later Baron Moyola

Vejjajiva, Abhisit [Mark] (1964 ) PM of Thailand

Other Politicians, Diplomats & Civil Servants

Acland, Sir Antony (1930 )
Aitken, Jonathan (1942 )
Armstrong, Robert, Baron Armstrong of Ilminster (1927 )
Ascham, Anthony (d. 1650)
Bayne, Sir Nicholas (1937 )
Bolingbroke, Henry St John, 1st Viscount (16781751)
Boyle, Edward, Baron Boyle of Handsworth (19231981)
Bridges, Edward, 1st Baron (18921969)
Cadogan, Sir Alexander (18841968)
Cameron, David (1966 )
Canning, Stratford, 1st Viscount (17861880)
Carrington, Peter Carrington, 6th Baron (1919 )
Chandos, Oliver Lyttelton, 1st Viscount (18931972)
Churchill, Lord Randolph (18491894)
Cobham, Charles Lyttelton, 10th Viscount (19091977)
Cooper, Alfred Duff, 1st Viscount Norwich (18901954)
Cornwallis, Charles, 1st Marquess (17381805)
Curzon, George Nathaniel, 1st Marquess of (18591925)
Dalton, Hugh, Baron Dalton (18871962)
Dalyell, Tam (1932 )
Dashwood, Sir Francis (17081781)
Durham, John Lambton, 1st Earl of (17921840)
Esher, Reginald Brett, 2nd Viscount (18521930)
Essex, Robert Devereux, 3rd Earl of (15911646)
Fox, Charles James (17491806)
Gordon, Lord George (17511793)
Gore-Booth, Paul, Baron Gore-Booth (19091984)
Grimond, Jo, Baron Grimond (19131993)
Halifax, Edward Wood, 1st Earl of (18811959)
Heathcoat-Amory, David (1949 )
Hogg, Douglas (1945 )
Hurd, Douglas, Baron Hurd of Westwell (1930 )
Johnson, Boris (1964 )
Lansdowne, Henry Petty-Fitzmaurice, 5th Marquess of (18451927)
Letwin, Oliver (1956 )
Lloyd, George, 1st Baron Lloyd (18791941)
Lyttelton, Hon. Alfred (18571913)
Millington-Drake, Sir Eugen (18891972)
Neave, Airey (19161979)
Salisbury, Robert Cecil, 7th Marquess of (1946 )
Sandwich, John Montagu, 4th Earl of (17181792)
Spring-Rice, Sir Cecil (18591918)
Strachey, (Evelyn) John (19011963)
Thorpe, Jeremy (1929 )
Tooke, John (17361812)
Vansittart, Robert, 1st Baron (18811957)
Waldegrave, William (1946 )
Young, Sir George, Bt (1941 )

The Church, Martyrs and Saints

Aufield, Thomas (15521585): Catholic martyr. Tried by William Fleetwood (also an OE). Hanged at Tyburn. Beatified 1915
Barrington, Shute (17341826): Bishop of Durham 17911826
Chadwick, Henry (1920 ): Regius Professor of Divinity, Cambridge 19791983, Dean of Christ Church 19691979 and Master of Peterhouse 19871993
Collins, Anthony (16761729): Deist
Cornwallis, Frederick (17131783): Archbishop of Canterbury 17681783
Frith, John (15031533): Martyr
Glover, Robert (d. 1555): Martyr
Habgood, John, Baron Habgood (1927 ): Archbishop of York 19831995
Hullier, John (d. 1555): Martyr
Inge, William (18601954): Dean of St Pauls 19111934
Knox, Ronald (18881957): RC priest and translator of the Bible
More, Henry (16141687): Theologian and philosopher
Patteson, Coleridge (18271871): Bishop of Melanesia 18611871; Martyr
Pearson, John (16131686): Theologian, Bishop of Chester 16731686
Pusey, Edward (18001882): Theologian
Ryle, John (18161900): First Anglican Bishop of Liverpool 1880
Saunders, Laurence (d. 1555): Martyr
Selwyn, George Augustus (18091878): Bishop of New Zealand 18411867, of Lichfield 18681878
Sherlock, Thomas (16781761): Bishop of Salisbury 17341748, of London 17481761
Sherwin, Ralph (c. 15501581): Martyr and saint. Hanged at Tyburn for treason. Beatified 1886. Canonised 1970
Simeon, Charles (17591836): Vicar of Holy Trinity Cambridge and preacher
Studd, Charles (18621931): Missionary in China 18851895
Sumner, Charles (17901874): Bishop of Winchester 18271874
Sumner, John (17801862): Archbishop of Canterbury 18481862

Members of Royal Families

Alexander of Yugoslavia, HRH Prince (1924 )
Athlone, Alexander, 1st Earl of (18741957)
Birabongse of Siam, HH Prince (19131988)
Birendra of Nepal, HM King (19452001)
Brooke, Anthony Walter Dayrell, formerly HH the Rajah Muda of Sarawak (1912 )
Chalermbol of Thailand, HRH Prince (19151991)
Connaught, HRH Prince Arthur of (18831938)
Dipendra of Nepal, HM King (19712001)
Gloucester, HRH Prince Henry, Duke of (19001974)
Gloucester, HRH Prince Richard, Duke of (1944 )
Gloucester, HRH Prince William of (19411972)
Jodhpur, Gaj Singh, Maharajah of (1948 )
Kent, HRH Prince Edward, Duke of (1935 )
Kent, HRH Prince Michael of (1942 )
Lpold III of the Belgians, HM King (19011983)
Nicholas of Romania, HRH Prince, later HRH Prince Nicholas of Hohenzollern (19031978)
Nirajan of Nepal, HRH Prince (19792001)
Prajadhipok of Siam, HM King (18931941)
al-Sabah, HH Sheikh Mohammed al-Moubarak (1971 )
Singh, HH Prince Frederick Duleep (18681926)
Singh of Kapurthala, HH Prince Sarabjit (190276)
Singh, HH Prince Victor Duleep (18661918)
Wales, HRH Prince Harry of (1984 )
Wales, HRH Prince William of (1982 )
Zara Yacob of Ethiopia, HIH Prince (1953 )

The Law

Bathurst, Henry, 2nd Earl (17141794): Lord Chancellor 17711778
Camden, Charles Pratt, 1st Earl (17141794): Lord Chancellor 17661770
Coleridge, John, 1st Baron (18201894): Chief Justice of Common Pleas 18731880, of Queens Bench 18801894
Cowell, John (15541611): Jurist, Regius Professor of Civil Law at Cambridge 15941611
Denman, Thomas, 1st Baron (17991854): Chief Justice of Kings Bench 18321850
Goff of Chieveley, Robert, Baron (1926 ): Law Lord
Hailsham, Douglas Hogg, 1st Viscount (18721950): Attorney-General 19221924, 19241928, Lord Chancellor 19281929, 19351938
Hailsham of St Marylebone, Quintin Hogg, Baron (19072001): Lord Chancellor 19701974, 19791987
Lloyd of Berwick, Anthony, Baron (1929 ): Law Lord
Maitland, Professor Frederic (18501906): Jurist
Mansfield, Sir James (17331821): Lord Chief Justice, Court of Common Pleas 18041814
Pollock, Sir Frederick, 3rd Bt. (18451937): Jurist
Talbot, Charles, 1st Baron (16851737): Lord Chancellor 17331737

The Armed Services

Victoria Crosses
37 Old Etonians have won the Victoria Cross.
Dates are those of the action or battle (in chronological order)

Crimean War
Loyd-Lindsay, Brevet-Major Robert, later 1st Baron Wantage (18321901) 1854 Alma and Inkerman
Goodlake, Brevet-Major Gerald (18321890) 1854 Windmill Ravine
Percy, Colonel Lord Henry (18171877) 1854 Inkerman
Russell, Brevet-Major Sir Charles, 3rd Bt. (18261883) 1854 Inkerman

Indian Mutiny
Roberts, Lieutenant Frederick, later Field Marshal the 1st Earl Roberts (18321914) 1858 Khudaganj
Heneage, Captain Clement Walker (18311901) 1858 Gwalior
Fraser, Major Charles, later Sir Charles (18291895) 1858 River Raptee

India
Fosbery, Lieutenant George (18321907) 1863 Umbeyla

Zulu War
Buller, Brevet Lieutenant-Colonel Redvers, later General Sir Redvers (18391908) 1879 Inhlobana
Beresford, Captain Lord William (18471900) 1879 Ulundi

Egypt and Sudan
Edwards, Lieutenant William (18551912) 1882 Tel-el-Kebir
Wilson, Captain Arthur, RN, later Admiral of the Fleet Sir Arthur, 3rd Bt. (1842-1921) 1884 El Teb

Malakand Field Force
Fincastle, Lieutenant Alexander Murray, Viscount, later the 8th Earl of Dunmore (18711962) 1897 Tirah and Nawah Kili

Sudan
Hore-Ruthven, Captain the Hon. Alexander, later the 1st Earl of Gowrie (18721955) 1898 Gedaref

South African (Boer) War
FitzClarence, Captain Charles (18651914) 1898 Mafeking
Roberts, Lieutenant the Hon. Frederick (18721899) 1899 (posthumous award) Colenso

Somaliland
Gough, Brevet-Major John (18711915) 1903 Daratoleh

First World War
Grenfell, Captain Francis (18801915) 1914 Audregnies
Boyd-Rochfort, 2nd Lieutenant George (18801940) 1915 La Bass
Hansen, Captain Percy (18901951) 1915 Hill 10, Gallipoli
Batten-Pooll, Lieutenant Arthur (18911971) 1916 Calonne, France
Congreve, Brevet-Major William (18911916) 1916 (posthumous award) 1st Battle of the Somme
Campbell, Lieutenant-Colonel John (18761944) 1916 Ginchy, France
Graham, Lieutenant Reginald, later Sir Reginald, 3rd Bt. 1917 Istabulat, Mesopotamia
Dunville, 2nd Lieutenant John (18961917) 1917 (posthumous award) St Quentin, France
Evans, Lieutenant-Colonel Lewis (18811962) 1917 Zonnebeke, Belgium
Borton, Lieutenant-Colonel Arthur (18831933) 1917 Sheria, Palestine
Elliott-Cooper, Temp. Lieutenant-Colonel Neville (18891918) 1917 La Vacquerie
Gribble, Temp. Captain Julian Royds (18971918) 1918 Beaumetz
Drummond, Lieutenant Geoffrey, RNVR (18861941) 1918 Ostend

North-West Frontier
Meynell, Captain Godfrey (19041935) 1935 (posthumous award) Point 4080

Second World War
Furness, Lieutenant the Hon. Christopher (19121940) 1940 (posthumous award) Arras, France
Keyes, Temp. Lieutenant-Colonel Geoffrey (19171941) 1941 (posthumous award) Libya
Lyell, Temp. Captain Charles Napier, 2nd Baron (19131943) 1943 (posthumous award) Tunisia
Sidney, Temp. Major William, later 1st Viscount De LIsle (19091991) 1944 Anzio, Italy
Jamieson, Major David (19202001) 1944 River Orne, Normandy

Falklands War
Jones, Colonel H (19401982) 1982 (posthumous award) Goose Green

George CrossesClose, Squadron Leader G. C. N., RAF 1940
Hay, Cadet D.G.M. (later 12th Marquess of Tweeddale), RNR after 1941
Tollemache, Squadron Leader A. H. H., R.Aux.A.F. 1940
[Branch, Flying Officer G. R., RAF won the Empire Gallantry Medal in 1938, but did not convert it to a GC]

World War I5,619 OEs served in the Armed Forces (Royal Navy and Royal Marines 163; Army 5,320; Royal Air Force 136).
1,157 died.

Awards
Victoria Cross: 13
Distinguished Service Order: 548 (incl. DSO and Bar 44, DSO and 2 Bars 4)
Military Cross: 744 (incl. MC and Bar 37, MC and 2 Bars 4)
Distinguished Service Cross: 10 (incl. DSC and Bar 1)
Distinguished Flying Cross and Air Force Cross: 20

There were 60 of the rank of Major-General and above, and two Admirals.

World War II4,960 OEs served in the Armed Forces (Royal Navy and Royal Marines 398; Army 4,050; Royal Air Force 512).
748 died (RN and RM 33; Army 572; RAF 143).

Awards
Victoria Cross: 5
George Cross: 3
Distinguished Service Order: 280 (incl. DSO and Bar 25, DSO and 2 Bars 1)
Military Cross: 389 (incl. MC and Bar 31, MC and 2 Bars 3)
Distinguished Service Cross: 55 (incl. DSC and Bar 1, DSC and 2 Bars 1)
Distinguished Flying Cross and Air Force Cross 75 (incl. DFC and Bar 4)
George Medal: 3

OthersBallantrae, Bernard Fergusson, Baron (19111980)
Bathurst, Admiral of the Fleet Sir Benjamin (1936 )
Bramall, Field Marshal Edwin, Baron Bramall (1923 )
Byng of Vimy, Field Marshal Julian, 1st Viscount (18621935)
Granby, General John Manners, 1st Marquess of (17211770)
Howe, Brigadier-General George, 3rd Viscount (17251758)
Howe, Admiral of the Fleet Richard, 1st Earl (17261799)
Howe, General William, 5th Viscount (17291814)
Kumaramangalam, General Paramasiva Prabhakar (19132000)
Plumer, Field Marshal Herbert, 1st Viscount (18571932)
Wellesley, General Richard, 1st Marquess (17601842)
Wellington, Field Marshal Arthur Wellesley, 1st Duke of (17691852)
Wilson, Field Marshal Henry, 1st Baron (18811964)

Science, Mathematics & Industry

Aberconway, Charles McLaren, 3rd Baron (19132003 )
Aberconway, Henry, 2nd Baron (18791953)
Bacon, Francis Thomas, FRS (19041992)
Banks, Sir Joseph, 1st Bt, FRS (17431820)
Barrett, Norman Rupert, FRCS (19031979)
Boyle, Hon. Robert, FRS (16271691)
Cadbury, Sir Dominic (1940 )
Chandos, Oliver Lyttelton, 1st Viscount (18931972)
Devonshire, William Cavendish, KG, FRS, 7th Duke of (18081891)
Egerton, Sir Alfred, FRS (18861959)
Fisher, James (19121970)
Gowers, Professor William Timothy, FRS (1963 )
Gurdon, Professor Sir John, FRS (1933 )
Haldane, J.B.S., FRS (18921964)
Herschel, Sir John, 1st Bt, FRS (17921871)
Hambro, Peter (1945 )
Huxley, Sir Julian, FRS (18871975)
James, Dr Oliver (1953 )
Keynes, John Maynard, Baron Keynes (18831946)
Lawes, Sir John, 1st Bt, FRS (18141899)
Lubbock, Sir John, 3rd Bt, FRS (18031865)
Merton, Sir Thomas, FRS (18881969)
Miers, Sir Henry, FRS (18581942)
Milner, Professor Robin FRS (1934 )
Moseley, Henry (18871915)
Ogston, Dr Alexander, FRS (19111996)
Oughtred, William (15751660)
Porritt, Hon. Jonathon (1950 )
Rayleigh, John William Strutt, 3rd Baron, FRS (18421919)
Rayleigh, Robert John Strutt, 4th Baron, FRS (18751947)
Rolls, Hon. Charles (18771910)
Spottiswoode, William (18251883) only briefly at Eton
Stanhope, Charles, 3rd Earl, FRS (17531816)
Townshend, Charles Turnip, 2nd Viscount (16741738)
Whitehead, Professor John, FRS (19041960)
Wilson, Peter (19131984)
Wolfram, Dr Stephen (1959 )

Travellers & Explorers

Bury, Charles (18831963)
Byron, Robert (19051941)
Fiennes, Sir Ranulph Twisleton-Wykeham-, 3rd Bt (1944 )
Fleming, Peter (19071971)
Gilbert, Sir Humphrey (c. 15391583)
Grylls, Bear (1974 )
Hanbury-Tenison, Robin (1936 )
Kinglake, Alexander (18091891)
Mason, Lieutenant-Commander Michael (19001982)
Oates, Captain Lawrence (18801912)
Snow, Sebastian (19292001)
Stewart, Rory (1973 )
Thesiger, Sir Wilfred (19102003)

Finance and the Press

Astor, Hon. David (19122001): Editor, The Observer 19481975
Astor of Hever, Gavin Astor, 2nd Baron (19181984): Chairman of Times Publishing Co. 19591966, President of Times Newspapers 19671981
Astor, Hon. Hugh Waldorf (19201999): Deputy Chairman of Times Publishing Co. 19591967, Director of Hambros 19601991
Astor of Hever, John Jacob Astor, 1st Baron (18861971): Proprietor, The Times
Astor, Waldorf, 2nd Viscount (18791952): Proprietor, The Observer 19111945
Burnham, Harry, 1st Viscount (18621933): Proprietor, The Daily Telegraph 19031928
Burnham, Edward Lawson, 4th Baron (18901963): Managing Director of The Daily Telegraph 19271939 and 194561
Camrose, Seymour Berry, 2nd Viscount (19091995): Chairman, Daily Telegraph Ltd. 19391987
Cobbold, Cameron Fromanteel, 1st Baron (19041987): Governor of the Bank of England 19491961, Lord Chamberlain of HM Household 19631971
Coleridge, David (1932 ): Chairman of Lloyds 1991, 1992
Coleridge, Nicholas (1957 ): Managing Director, CondNast Publications 1992
Cowdray, Weetman Pearson, 3rd Viscount (19101995): President, Pearson PLC
Cromer, Rowland Baring, 3rd Earl of (19181991): Governor of the Bank of England 19611966, MD of Baring Bros & Co. 19481961, 19671970
Dawson (until 1917 Robinson), Geoffrey (18741944): Editor, The Times 19121919 and 19231941
Dimsdale, Sir Joseph, 1st Bt. (18491912): Lord Mayor of London 19011902
Douglas-Home, Charles (19371985): Editor, The Times 19821985
Drogheda, Charles Moore, 11th Earl of (19101990): MD of Financial Times Ltd. 19451970, Chairman 19711975
Goldsmith, Sir James (19331997)
Hartwell, Michael Berry, Baron (19112001): Chairman and Editor-in-Chief, The Daily Telegraph 19541987, The Sunday Telegraph 19611987
Hoberman, Brent (1968 ): Dotcom entrepreneur
Hogg, Quintin (18451903)
Keynes, John Maynard, Baron Keynes (18831946)
Kingsdown, Robin Leigh-Pemberton, Baron (1927 ): Governor of the Bank of England 19831993
Lawson, Dominic (1956 ): Editor, The Spectator, 19901995, The Sunday Telegraph, 1995
Lubbock, John, FRS, 1st Baron Avebury (18341913)
Moore, Charles (1956 ): Editor, The Spectator, 19841990, The Sunday Telegraph, 19901995, The Daily Telegraph, 1995
Norman, Montagu, 1st Baron (18711950): Governor of the Bank of England 19201944
Palumbo, Peter, Baron Palumbo (1935 )
Smith, Sir John (19232007)
Studd, Sir Kynaston, 1st Bt. (18581944): Lord Mayor of London
Taylor, Martin (1952 ): Chief Executive, Barclays Bank 19941998
Villiers, Hon. Arthur (18831969): Director of Barings and philanthropist

Sport

Allen, Sir George (Gubby) (19021989)
Armytage, Marcus (1964 )
Barclay, John (1954 )
Birabongse of Siam, Prince (as B. Bira) (19151985)
Boone, W. R. (1950 )
Bourne, Gilbert, FRS (18611933)
Bourne, R. C. (18881938)
Bourne R. M. A. (19181995)
Burghley, David Cecil, Lord Burghley, later 6th Marquess of Exeter (19051981)
Burnell, C. D. (18761969)
Clive, Lewis (19101938)
Cobb, John (18991952)
Cobham, Charles Lyttelton, 10th Viscount (19091977)
Coode, Edward (1975 )
Cottesloe, John Fremantle, 4th Baron (19001994)
Courage, Piers (19421970)
Darwin, Bernard (18761961)
Dixon, Robin (3rd Baron Glentoran) (1935 )
Drysdale, Robin (1952 )
Dunn, Arthur (18601902)
Fleming, Matthew (1964 )
Fox-Pitt, William (1969 )
Gold, Sir Harcourt (18761952)
Haig-Thomas, Peter (18821959)
Harris, George, 4th Baron (18511932)
Hawke, Martin, 7th Baron (18601938)
Hue-Williams, Mark (1968 )
Ingleby-Mackenzie, Colin (19332006)
Killanin, Michael Morris, 3rd Baron (19141999)
Kinnaird, Arthur, 11th Baron (18471923)
Lawes, Sir Charles, 2nd Bt (Lawes-Wittewronge from 1902) (18431911)
Lawrence, John, 2nd Baron Oaksey (1929 )
Lindsay, Andrew (1977 )
Loudon, Alex (1980 )
Lyttelton, Hon. Alfred (18571913)
Mann, George (19172001)
Muttlebury, Stanley (18661933)
Nickalls, Guy (18661935)
Palmer-Tomkinson, C. D. (1942 )
Palmer-Tomkinson, J. A. (19151952)
Palmer-Tomkinson, J. J. (1943 )
Pinsent, Sir Matthew (1970 )
Segrave, Sir Henry (18961930)
Zborowski, Count Louis (18951924)

The FA Cup was won by the Old Etonians in 1879 and 1882. They won the Arthur Dunn Cup (for public school old boys soccer) in 2005.

Art and Architecture

Andreae, Giles (1966 )
Bath, Alexander Thynn, 7th Marquess of (formerly Viscount Weymouth) (1932 )
Campbell, James (1942 )
Cox, Sir Trenchard (19061995)
Darwin, Sir Robin (19101974)
de Grey, Sir Roger (19181995)
Esher, Lionel Brett, 4th Viscount (19132004)
Evans, Sidney (18661949)
Evans, William (17981877)
Evergood, Philip (19011973)
Faure Walker, James (1948 )
Ford, Sir Brinsley (19081999)
Grimthorpe, Edmund Beckett, 1st Baron (18161905)
Hodgkin, Sir Howard (1932 )
Hurford, James (19451997)
Jaff Michael (19231997)
Kelly, Sir Gerald (18791972)
Le Grice, Jeremy (1936 )
Leigh-Pemberton, John (19111997)
Lowinsky, Thomas (18921947)
McEwen, Rory (Roderick) (19321982)
Merton, John (1913 )
Queensberry, David Douglas, 12th Marquess of (formerly Viscount Drumlanrig) (1929 )
Snowdon, Antony Armstrong-Jones, 1st Earl of (1930 )
Stevens, Sir Jocelyn (1932 )
Stone, Reynolds (19091979)
Verney, Sir John, 2nd Bt (19131993)
Woodyer, Henry (18161896)

Music

Arne, Thomas (17101778)
Berners, Gerald Tyrwhitt-Wilson, 14th Baron (18831950)
Butterworth, George (18851916)
Cannan, Denis (formerly Pullein-Thompson) (1919 )
Chance, Michael (1955 )
Christie, John (18821962)
Dent, Edward (18761957)
Gascoigne, Brian (1943 )
Grier, Francis (1955 )
Hely-Hutchinson, Victor (19011947)
Lyttelton, Humphrey (19212008)
Morell, Thomas, FRS (17031784)
Parry, Sir Hubert, 1st Bt (18481918)
Quilter, Roger (18771953)
Still, Robert (19101971)
Warlock, Peter (Philip Heseltine) (18941930)
Weldon, John (16761736)

Writers, poets, wits, scholars, dons, schoolmasters

Acton, Sir Harold (19041994)
Ascherson, Neal (1932 )
Ayer, Sir Alfred (19101989)
Baring, Maurice (18741945)
Benedictus, David (1938 )
Benson, Arthur (18621925)
Blair, Eric (George Orwell) (19031950)
Bridges, Robert (18441930)
Browning, Oscar (18371923)
Burnand, Sir Francis Cowley (1836-1917)
Burnell, Mark (1965 )
Butler, Rohan (19171996)
Carter, Jake (19051975)
Casaubon, Meric (15991671)
Cecil, Lord David (19021986)
Churchill, Hon. Randolph Spencer (19111968)
Clutton-Brock, Arthur (18681924)
Coldstream, John (1927 2008)
Connolly, Cyril (19031974)
Cory (formerly Johnson), William (18231892)
Cumming, Charles (1971 )
Dickinson, Peter (1927 )
Dolben, Digby Mackworth- (18481867)
Donegall, Edward Chichester, 6th Marquess of (19031975)
Douglas-Home, Hon. William (19121992)
Dunsany, Edward Plunkett, 18th Baron (18781957)
Fielding, Henry (17071754)
Fleming, Ian (19081964)
Fleming, Peter (19071971)
Giles, Granville Charles Trelawney (18911976)
Godolphin, Henry (16481733)
Gray, Thomas (17161771)
Green, Henry (Henry Yorke) (19051973)
Grenfell, Hon. Julian (18881915)
Greville, Charles (17941865)
Guinness, Bryan, 2nd Baron Moyne (1905 1992)
Hallam, Arthur Henry (18111833)
Hart-Davis, Duff (1936 )
Hart-Davis, Sir Rupert (19071999)
Harvey, Robert (1953 )
Heygate, Sir John, 4th Bt. (19031976)
Holroyd, Michael (1935 )
Hornblower, Simon (1949 )
Howard, Brian (19051958)
Howard, Philip (1933 )
Huxley, Aldous (18941963)
James, Montague Rhodes (18621936)
Jenkyns, R.H.A. (1949 )
Johnson, Peter (1956 )
Jones, Sir Lawrence, 5th Bt. (18851969)
Joynes, James Leigh (18531893)
Keate, Dr John (17731852)
Knox, Ronnie (18881957)
Lane Fox, Robin (1946 )
Lees-Milne, James (19081997)
Lehmann, John (19071987)
Leslie, Sir Shane, 3rd Bt. (18851971)
LEstrange, Rev A.G.K. (18321915)
Llewelyn Davies, Peter (18971960)
Longford, Francis Pakenham, 7th Earl of (19052001)
Loyd, Anthony (1966 )
Lyttelton, Hon. George (18831962)
MacCarthy, Sir Desmond (18771952)
Mackworth Praed, Winthrop (18021839)
Maclean of Dunconnel, Sir Fitzroy, 1st Bt. (19111996)
Mason, Richard (1978 )
Maugham, Robin, 2nd Viscount (19161981)
Mortimer, E. J. (1943 )
Mosley, Nicholas (3rd Baron Ravensdale) (1923 )
Murray, John (19091993)
Murray, Sir John (IV) (18511928)
Murray, Sir John (V) (18841967)
Mynors, Sir Roger (19031989)
Nicolson, Nigel (19172004)
Ollard, Richard (1923 2007)
Opie, Peter (19181982)
Orwell, George (Eric Blair) (19031950)
Parfit, Derek (1942 )
Parker, Eric (18701955)
Payn, James (18301898)
Porson, Richard (17591808)
Powell, Anthony (19062000)
Riley-Smith, Jonathan (1938 )
Runciman, Hon. Sir Steven (19032000)
Runciman of Doxford, Walter Runciman, 2nd Viscount (19001989)
Russell, Conrad, 5th Earl (19372004)
Rylands, Dadie (19021999)
Salt, Henry Shakespear Stephens (18511939)
Sandford, Jeremy (19302003)
Selwyn, George (17191791)
Shaw-Stewart, Patrick (18881917)
Shelley, Percy Bysshe (17921822)
Sinclair, Andrew (1935 )
Sitwell, Sir Osbert, 5th Bt. (18921969)
Sitwell, Sir Sacheverell, 6th Bt. (18971988)
Starling, Boris (1969 )
Stephen, Sir Leslie (18321904)
Stone, Christopher (18821965)
Swinburne, Algernon (18371909)
Thring, Edward (18211887)
Thubron, Colin (1939 )
Wade, Henry (Sir Henry Aubrey-Fletcher, Bt.) (18871969)
Waller, Edmund (16061687)
Walpole, Horatio (Horace), FRS, 4th Earl of Orford (17171797)
Walters, Guy (1971 )
Watkins, Paul (1964 )
Whitaker, Ben (1934 )
Williams, Hugo (1942 )
Ziegler, Philip (1929 )

Historians of Eton

Austen-Leigh, Richard (18721961)
Ballantrae, Brigadier Lord (19111980)
Card, Tim (19312001)
Cust, Sir Lionel (18591929)
Hollis, Christopher (19021977)
Hussey, Christopher (18991970)
Maxwell Lyte, Sir Henry (18481940)
Sterry, Sir Wasey (18661955)

Drama, film, radio, television

Adams-Dale, Will (1974 )
Alston, Dr Richard (1948 )
Barton, John (1928 )
Beecham, Derrick (19211988)
Bennett, Edward (1950 )
Benthall, Michael (19191974)
Bentine (= Bentin), Michael (19221996)
Blofeld, Henry (1939 )
Bourchier, Arthur (18641927)
Brett (= Huggins), Jeremy (19331995)
Brooksbank, Scott (1976 )
Cazenove, Christopher (1940 )
Cecil, Jonathan (1939 )
Child, Sir Jeremy (1944 )
Clyde, Jeremy (1941 )
Dimsdale, Oliver (1972 )
Doran, Colin (19181991)
Douglas (= Leigh Pemberton), Nigel (1929 )
Douglas-Home, Hon. William (19121992)
Fearnley-Whittingstall, Hugh (1965 )
Fernandez-Armesto, Sebastian (1982 )
Frieda, Jordan (1977 )
Gascoigne, Bamber (1935 )
Harewood, George Lascelles, 7th Earl of (1923 )
Hart-Davis, Adam (1943 )
Hawtrey, Sir Charles (18581923)
Hiddleston, Tom (1981 )
Hogg, James (1937 )
Howard, Robin (192489)
Hudson, Hugh (1936 )
Jessel, David (1945 )
Johnston, Brian (19121994)
Kean, Charles (c. 18111868)
Keen, Will (1970 )
Kennedy, Sir Ludovic (1919 )
Landale, James (1968 )
Laurie, Hugh (1959 )
Lewis, Damian (1971 )
Lloyd, Harry (1983 )
Lyttelton, Humphrey (19212008)
MacKinnon, Bruce (1978 )
Macnee, Patrick (1922 )
Massey, Daniel (19331998)
Maud, Andrew (1964 )
Messel, Oliver (19041978)
Milburn, Oliver (1973 )
Norwich, John Julius Cooper, 2nd Viscount (1929 )
Ogilvy, Ian (1943 )
Ormerod, Nicholas (1951 )
Ovenden, Julian (1975 )
Powell, Tristram (1940 )
Redmayne, Eddie (1982 )
Rowe, Nicholas (1966 )
Slade, Julian (19302006)
Standing, John (Sir John Leon, Bt) (1934 )
Tennyson, Penrose (19121941)
Warre, Michael (192287)
West, Dominic (1969 )
Woodall, Ed (1967 )
Woods, Simon (1980 )
Young, Sir Brian (1922 )

Other Old Etonians

Benenson, Peter (1921 ): Founder of Amnesty International
Brummel, George Beau (17781840)
Charteris, Martin, Baron Charteris of Amisfield (19131999): The Queens Private Secretary, Permanent Lord-in-Waiting to the Queen
Finch-Hatton, Denys (18871931): Game-hunter and aviator, portrayed in Out of Africa
Fellowes, Sir Robert (1941 ): The Queens Private Secretary
Gladstone, Sir William, 7th Bt (1925 ): Schoolmaster and Chief Scout
Ilbert, Courtenay Adrian (18881956): Horologist
Knox, Alfred Dillwyn (18841943): Cryptographer
Lucan, Richard John Bingham, 7th Earl of (1934?): Missing
Lynch, Thomas, Jnr (17491779): Signatory of the American Declaration of Independence
Rowallan, Thomas Corbett, 2nd Baron (18951977): Soldier and Chief Scout
Wallace, Captain Ronald (19192002): Master of foxhounds
Wagner, Sir Anthony (19081995): Heraldic scholar

Fred1new - 09 Jun 2009 18:01 - 476 of 518

Haystack,

Thank you, but you needn't have bothered.

I am sure even amongst that bunch there could be a few decent individuals amongst them.

It is amazing what can be accomplished with money and a few good hidings.

Were you and Lord Lucan at Eton?

Fred1new - 09 Jun 2009 18:03 - 477 of 518

Just notice, Hogg of the Moat was there. Now that is a fair advertisement!

marni - 09 Jun 2009 18:17 - 478 of 518

halifax......u go on about others in scotland voting on english matters..........england is made up of muslims, blacks, poles, other east euros, in fact every nationality including me!
scotland as far as i know is only 60% scots with 20% english so maybe its the english in scotland voting on the foreigners in england!! lol

halifax - 09 Jun 2009 21:13 - 479 of 518

marni you have missed the point ,where you live is where you should vote on matters concerning the respective country. This has nothing to do with race or in your case racism.
Register now or login to post to this thread.