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THE TALK TO YOURSELF THREAD. (NOWT)     

goldfinger - 09 Jun 2005 12:25

Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).

Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.

cheers GF.

doodlebug4 - 21 Sep 2014 17:22 - 46041 of 81564

Rioting gf? You mean rioting like we have witnessed in England in recent years with shops and houses torched and rampant looting going on? Six people arrested - lol.

goldfinger - 21 Sep 2014 17:49 - 46042 of 81564

It was reported as rioting doodles, it was rioting and you said quite clearly "There will not be rioting in Scotland"......their as been rioting. Couldnt be clearer and just because old doderer Hays as got it completly wrong YET AGAIN doesnt mean he is right.

You want to be careful or youl be put in the same boat as that chap.

You do have brains, he just as fresh air between his ears.

Twitter was full of it friday night the establishment has kept a lid on it for obvious reasons.

A few pub fights my ass. It was chaotic at one point in that square, you should have seen the amaetur photo footage.

doodlebug4 - 21 Sep 2014 18:24 - 46043 of 81564

There has been this so-called 'rioting' in Glasgow every Friday and Saturday night for about 100 years, usually between Rangers and Celtic supporters. It's a typical media hyped story based on a few little skirmishes and typical of some sections of the press in this country who were no doubt hoping for a full scale riot in order to portray the Scots as a country of hooligans.

hilary - 21 Sep 2014 18:44 - 46044 of 81564

Fishfinger,

Would I be right in thinking from previous postings that you don't like the X-Factor? Worra cracking singer Chloe-Jasmine is!!!

goldfinger - 21 Sep 2014 18:52 - 46045 of 81564

Doodles I know all about that, ive been up there and in the action when its started.

It doesnt though go on for 6 hours into the night though, so you can fudge as much as you want but I know the crack.

goldfinger - 21 Sep 2014 18:59 - 46046 of 81564

Hi Hilary, bloody hate x factor and Strictly both warping young kids minds. Cowell making a mint at the expense of young kids futures.

Come on whats the outa here is she a relation ...... freind or what??????? surely not daughter???

Sat night we should be like rest of Europe Football Live, and cricket during summer.

I kid you not, I down a few more pints than normal sat afternoon so I can miss it all asleep.

cynic - 21 Sep 2014 19:03 - 46047 of 81564

a fine example to set young kids! :-)

Haystack - 21 Sep 2014 19:54 - 46048 of 81564

Not a riot. It was caused by NO voters waving Union Jacks.

doodlebug4 - 21 Sep 2014 19:56 - 46049 of 81564

Lol gf, Glasgow is not the only town in Scotland. How much so-called rioting has there been in Aberdeen, Edinburgh and Dundee over the last few nights? If there was rioting in Glasgow then why were there no extra rioting police called in? Far from knowing the crack you are far removed from reality and just trying to divert attention from the fact that Miliband is in a messy situation.:-)

MaxK - 21 Sep 2014 20:17 - 46050 of 81564

No Riot on Saturday night .... shock horror!

Police baffled!



Does not sell newspapers.

Haystack - 21 Sep 2014 20:30 - 46051 of 81564

Maybe there will be a riot at the Labour Party Conference.

cynic - 21 Sep 2014 20:33 - 46052 of 81564

crack is what a navvy's trousers reveal

craic is the word you are looking for, though it is really (adopted) irish gaelic so unlikely to be appreciated by patriotic scots!

Haystack - 21 Sep 2014 20:38 - 46053 of 81564

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/labour-must-reconnect-with-english-identity-and-avoid-west-lothian-rebellion-ed-miliband-told-9747288.html

Ed Miliband faces a growing Labour rebellion against his opposition to David Cameron’s plan to bring in “English votes for English laws.”
Several Labour MPs from English constituencies fear the party will suffer a backlash from the public at next May’s general election if it does not agree to dilute the voting power of Scottish MPs at Westminster. The Labour leadership fears this could cripple a future Labour government. It could fail to get its laws approved by the Commons without its large block of MPs from Scotland, where it won 41 of the 59 seats at the 2010 election.

Kate Hoey, a Labour MP and former Sports Minister, said Labour must do the right thing for the country even if that disadvantaged the party in the short-term.
......

She said several Labour MPs shared her view but would not speak out until after this week’s Labour conference. Critics of Mr Miliband’s line are said to include some members of his Shadow Cabinet.


John Denham, Mr Miliband’s former parliamentary aide, said “the English question must be settled” along with Scotland’s extra powers and questioned the Labour leader’s call for the two issues to be handled at different speeds. Writing on the LabourList website, Mr Denham said: “Settling the English question cannot be on a different timetable to the delivery of enhanced powers for the Scottish Parliament. It may not be possible to do this in the same piece of legislation but the implementation of new decision-making arrangements should be across the UK.”

MaxK - 21 Sep 2014 20:40 - 46054 of 81564

The Labour party do good riot!

cynic - 21 Sep 2014 22:33 - 46055 of 81564

or even display a talent for good crack!

MaxK - 21 Sep 2014 22:33 - 46056 of 81564

Nothing on the main news....suppose no one gives a shit, after all, it's all old stuff.


http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-29295272

goldfinger - 21 Sep 2014 22:59 - 46057 of 81564

Police vow to catch George Square rioters

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by ALASTAIR DALTON
Updated on the
20 September
2014
18:01
Published 19/09/2014 20:23
http://www.scotsman.com/news/politics/top-stories/police-vow-to-catch-george-square-rioters-1-3547573

POLICE said last night they were confident of tracing more people after making 11 arrests following “ugly” scenes at a

violent pro-Union demonstration in Glasgow on Friday.

Officers set up an incident room to examine “valuable” CCTV evidence as SNP councillors criticised them for not acting more quickly to contain the disorder that broke out just hours after the Scottish independence referendum result was announced.

Police Scotland said arrests were for disorder, breach of the peace and vandalism, after people were attacked or threatened by the 700-strong mob who set off flares in the city’s George Square, where peaceful Yes rallies were held during the referendum campaign.

An estimated 150 police, some on horseback, were drafted in to separate the Union-­flag waving demonstrators – some of whom were members of the extreme right-wing Scottish Defence League – from independence supporters.

A number of flags bearing Loyalist and Rangers FC insignia and messages could be seen among the pro-Union crowd, and witnesses reported hearing sectarian chants and songs.

Footage showed people being kicked to the ground, Nazi-style salutes and Saltire flags being grabbed from people’s hands. A photographer was forced to flee after being threatened with having his camera smashed.

He said: “I saw people being kicked about and some of the Unionists were even fighting each other. It was a poisonous at­mosphere, with people with Union flags draped over their shoulders intimidating Yes supporters.”

Glasgow City Council’s opposition SNP group said the police response had been inadequate.

A spokesman for its leadership said: “They did not get this right – there were not adequate numbers there or the right strategy. The police just seemed to be standing back and were more interested in dispersing people.”

Deputy leader Billy McAllister is to write to Chief Constable Sir Stephen House over the concerns.

There was also criticism on Twitter. Matthew O’Hare, a Yes supporter from Glasgow, tweeted: “Not enough action by police”. Fellow Yes supporter “The Mitch”, from Ayr, was critical of the police and tweeted: “Openly allowing bigotry and racism to rule the streets of Glasgow.”

However, other politicians praised the police. Conservative chief whip John Lamont said: “The police did a superb job keeping order throughout the last week, and they again did well under tricky circumstances on Friday.”

Labour justice spokesman Graeme Pearson said: “While the scenes in George Square were ugly and upsetting, I believe the police have done

a good job in bringing the country together over a very challenging period.”

Liberal Democrat justice spokeswoman Alison McInnes said: “There is no place for this kind of behaviour in modern Scotland. Whilst the police moved quickly to manage this situation, I would hope they would not be required to do so again in future.”

Justice Secretary Kenny Mac­Askill said: “The small number of people who were responsible for causing trouble in George Square were clearly not affiliated to either side of the campaign.

“Police Scotland acted swiftly to take action against those intent on causing trouble and protect the safety of members of the public.”

Green MSP Patrick Harvie MSP said: “The small number of idiots who have behaved ­aggressively or violently bring shame on themselves and on our community. Their behaviour is an insult to democracy.”

Chief Superintendent Andy Bates, local policing commander for Greater Glasgow, said yesterday: “An investigation into Friday night’s disorder has begun and an incident room has been set up at Glasgow city centre police office, staffed by officers dedicated to identifying and arresting anyone involved in the ugly scenes witnessed across the world on television and social media.

“We have already secured valuable CCTV and other evidence, which I am confident will lead to further arrests in the coming days. Don’t think that because you were not arrested by last night that you will not be caught. If you were involved in any criminality in the square we will identify you and you will be arrested.”

Police said two Orange Lodge marches and one republican march in Glasgow yesterday passed off peacefully.

SEE ALSO:

• Get the latest referendum news, opinion and analysis from across Scotland and beyond on our new Scottish Independence website

• Voters in Glasgow give their reaction to the Scottish independence referendum

• Scottish independence video: crowds gather in Glasgow’s George Square

Haystack - 21 Sep 2014 23:10 - 46058 of 81564

You have rioting on the brain. Don't forget that you said that there would be rioting and not that there had been rioting. I can't see any rioting coming nor any interest rate rises before GE.

goldfinger - 21 Sep 2014 23:13 - 46059 of 81564

Must have been a bloody big pub Hays,............................. donkey brain.

goldfinger - 21 Sep 2014 23:14 - 46060 of 81564

Fudging yet again Hays ..................donkey brain.
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