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The really useful silver thread (AG)     

squirrel888 - 12 Jun 2013 10:30

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gazkaz - 25 Jul 2013 10:07 - 462 of 1034

Quite frank for a US Former Assistant Treasury Secretary

Paul Craig Roberts says,

“The country is not being run by the President.
- It is being run by spy agencies and private interest groups,
- Wall Street and military security complex . . .They run the country.

- The President is a puppet, a figurehead.”

Dr. Roberts contends,
“If you are a lawless state, which the United States is, it obeys no international law. It does not obey the Geneva Convention . . . It tortures people. It doesn’t obey the Constitution. It doesn’t obey anything. It does what it wants. . . . If you are a lawless state, you disguise yourself as a democracy.”

Former President Jimmy Carter agrees.
- Just last week, Carter said,

“The U.S. has no functioning democracy at this moment.”

Why hasn’t the mainstream media picked up this astounding comment from a former Democratic President...?
- Dr. Roberts says,
- “Five firms .........now own..... what used to be .......a large dispersed independent media.
- Nobody can open their mouth, .....they’d get fired.
- They have become a propaganda ministry for government and corporations.”

Dr. Roberts goes on to say,
“My prediction or expectation is by winter,
- the second downturn of the Great Recession... will be in place.
- Unemployment will explode,
- more foreclosures are coming.

It’s going to be worse than the Great Depression.”


Full interview





Some excellent insights too ....into what happens when ...presidents

- buck ....their controllers

- and .....a lot more

One of the - don't miss it ...ones

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gazkaz - 25 Jul 2013 10:13 - 463 of 1034

Metals option expiry...today

Saturn6 - 25 Jul 2013 11:26 - 464 of 1034

Thanks Gaz - I had seen the Silver Bear Vid yesterday and read the article by Gary Savage. But nice to see you are there too ;))

7/7 Attack!... But by Whom?...

Note how there is the usual timely bomb drill and how the BBC will/is to be used as a propaganda outlet...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kwyzpzEgUWE&list=FLIJJ73tXXLsUM4AkyexI8lA

S.

gazkaz - 25 Jul 2013 14:23 - 465 of 1034

Cheers Sahara - Added that to my post grass... list
(update - that;s watch it after I have cut the grass with a lawnmower :o)

This is the very best & most concise version I have seen - the freefall building.
(& I have seen a lot on this subject)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hZEvA8BCoBw

Handy short one too..re any deniers etc
- hat tip to BHG for the link

Saturn6 - 25 Jul 2013 15:42 - 466 of 1034

Good idea Gaz - I like to watch videos like that in down-time instead of having my brain placed into an receptive Alapha sate by the patented flicker rate of LCD TV's so as to absorb all the subliminal programming of the satanic cult that rules us. ;-/

BTW have you noticed the commercials on mainstrem tv lately how childish they have all become, you really would think some of them are aimed at four year olds. Maybe there is a reason for that?...

http://www.ehow.com/about_5059398_tv-commercials-effects-children.html

S.

Saturn6 - 25 Jul 2013 16:01 - 467 of 1034

This rebound could run to the recent high...

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Or - Close the 'Gap'...

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Which would eerily plot a re-test of the breakoput...

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S.

gazkaz - 25 Jul 2013 16:15 - 468 of 1034

Sahara - That 1st para is impressive - says a hellevu lot in the fewest words possible.

My youngest son was around 5 and his favourite film of the era was the original "transformers movie". If he was colouring or even doing 5yr old maths (and my other son was watching it) - my youngest could whilst doing what he was doing -recite it word perfect, with accents and ...the emotion expressed in the words too.

I think it was Darren Brown - who had a down and out sat in a shopping centre with a begging bowl ...everyone just walked past.
- he then put some innocuous subliminal signage in the shop windows on the approach to the guy.
- nearly everyone gave him money...and from memory one passer by even offered him his trainers.

Amazing what our sub concious picks up. (with kids even more so - they have less already cluttering their sub concious I suppose)

For a time (if I remeber correctly) they slipped single frame subliminal ads in the trailers at the cinema
- when they banned them sales of coke and popcorn dropped significantly.

Looking forward to reading Prof Quigleys 1000 page epic - tragedy and hope
- when amazoon get a used copy over from the US
(new - were listed at.....£2/300 !!)
- been meaning to read it for years.

Many lectures & documentaries will be running in the background whilst I read that one :o)

gazkaz - 25 Jul 2013 16:17 - 469 of 1034

$26 would be good :o)

Saturn6 - 25 Jul 2013 16:58 - 470 of 1034

Gaz - Very interesting. I have used Derren Brown to explain to others how effective and powerful mind conditioning actually works on the unsuspecting, without their awareness. Usually after they have refuted what I say on the subject of mass programming as ridiculous. You can actually see the penny drop and the sudden awareness (wakefulness) and then a rapid change of subject, rather than debate the fact further.

This attitude that has occurred countless times when I try to engage others to the wider reality has made me realise that there is also the same powerful effective conditioning employed to refute, ignore or sidetrack such an attempt on someone to wake them up. REMARKABLE!!

Yes - $26 is also around the 50% Fib line.

Looks like a 'Bear Flag' on the intraday SLV chart which would be a shame as any weakness here would imply a failed break and a re-test of the lows, currently we have support at the $19.50 line, which I would like to see held.

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Look for a pincer action between the Blue 252 average and the uptrend support line.

S.

Saturn6 - 25 Jul 2013 17:11 - 471 of 1034

Time Bomb that would release an event of biblical proportions....


As the amount of Arctic sea ice declines
at an unprecedented rate
4,5
, the thawing of
offshore permafrost releases methane. A
50-gigatonne (Gt) reservoir of methane,
stored in the form of hydrates, exists on the
East Siberian Arctic Shelf. It is likely to be
emitted as the seabed warms, either steadily
over 50 years or suddenly
6
. Higher methane concentrations in the atmosphere will
accelerate global warming and hasten local
changes in the Arctic, speeding up sea-ice
retreat, reducing the reflection of solar
energy and accelerating the melting of the
Greenland ice sheet. The ramifications will
be felt far from the poles...

http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/v499/n7459/pdf/499401a.pdf

Study: Arctic Methane Release Could Cost Economy $60 Trillion

http://www.voanews.com/content/reu-study-indicates-methane-gas-release-could-cost-economy-up-to-60-trillion/1709431.html

Reminds me of words from scripture...

'Then the fourth angel poured out his bowl on the sun, and power was given to him to scorch men with fire. And men were scorched with great heat, and they blasphemed the name of God who has power over these plagues; and they did not repent and give Him glory.' (Revelation 16:8-9)

S.

gazkaz - 25 Jul 2013 19:39 - 472 of 1034

Sahara - re the methane angle
4 crediblish's (new word there) on BP Horizon job
- attempt to :-
- 1 - rupture the large methane reserve under the gulf sea bed
- dissolve the massive salt dome to the side of the riser (salt layers then run under the gulf coast).
The Louisiana massive and expanding collapsed salt cavern within a 2 mile area housing other salt caverns usedfor storing exiting things like...butane... may be connected to that one
- 2- and of course that's all around the end of the New Madrid fault that runs right up to the great lakes
- 3- last option kill off the livelihoods of the gulf area "bible belt" - and for good measure lather them with corexit
- 4 - Divert/disrupt the gulf stream &/or corexit poison the gulf stream escalator, which after heading towards the pristine arctic waters, heads back way down towards the equator

I suppose a 5th option could be - any and/or all the above

gazkaz - 25 Jul 2013 19:44 - 473 of 1034

ooor Wullie (Jim Willie) - stated in a recent interview

- heaven and earth were being moved on a daily basis to keep afloat
- Deutsche
- Barclays
- & Citi

Now Max Keier

Max Keiser

Max Keiser‏@maxkeiser24 Jul
Deutsche Bank is a huge German government slush fund (like JP Morgan in U.S.)
- where collapse of Portugal
- is about to trigger global crisis

And a bonus....

Max Keiser ‏@maxkeiser
My Geneva fund contact:
- Deutsche Bank is officially on suicide watch.
DB will be the next ‘Lehman’ moment that triggers new collapse

https://twitter.com/maxkeiser/maxopocalypso


Saturn6 - 25 Jul 2013 19:52 - 474 of 1034

Gaz - phew!!

I suppose it quite fitting for the deeds of man in failing to tend and keep the garden he has been born into will turn out to be his downfall. The Bible makes clear that God is not pleased with man who abuses His creation.

Then the LORD God took the man and put him in the garden of Eden to tend and keep it (Genesis 2:15).

God’s voice thunders in marvelous ways;
he does great things beyond our understanding.
6 He says to the snow, ‘Fall on the earth,’
and to the rain shower, ‘Be a mighty downpour.’
7 So that everyone he has made may know his work,
he stops all people from their labor.[a]
8 The animals take cover;
they remain in their dens.
9 The tempest comes out from its chamber,
the cold from the driving winds.
10 The breath of God produces ice,
and the broad waters become frozen.
11 He loads the clouds with moisture;
he scatters his lightning through them.
12 At his direction they swirl around
over the face of the whole earth
to do whatever he commands them.

13 He brings the clouds to punish people,
or to water his earth and show his love.

Job 37 5-13

S.

Saturn6 - 25 Jul 2013 20:14 - 475 of 1034

A new 'Bull Flag'...

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Although we need to bear in mind this scenario still...

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S.

gazkaz - 25 Jul 2013 21:24 - 476 of 1034

Sahara - I hope that wrath is ...selective
- as we share the habitat with TPTB who follow the ...other path/guy
- caught in their crossfire sounds unpleasant.

gazkaz - 25 Jul 2013 21:36 - 477 of 1034

Re the above comment from Willie & Keiser

- is "this badge" above the article.....a coincidence

A clip from the article is below - and uncannily is - about
- loss/breakdown of ...trust



Hong Kong hedge fund manager... William Kaye

We are reaching an important pivot. As I’m talking to you gold is actually under pressure again, but what’s going on now is the typical gaming that you see which is related to the options expiry. Options expire tomorrow. This weakness is all by design. These guys are extremely devious and very coordinated in the way they manage the price of gold.

The trading action now in gold is meant to discourage people who have re-entered the gold market because of the improved technicals. But despite the ongoing manipulation we have incredibly strong fundamentals, one example being the fact that the lease rates for gold have gone negative and stayed negative for two weeks.

What this means is people are paying a premium
- for physical gold today
- vs - taking a paper promise from the COMEX or a bullion bank for delivery in a week, two weeks, or a month in the future.
- So the fact that people will pay a premium... for delivery of gold today
tells you everything you need to know.

Negative lease rates simply mean that the strains are so great in the system, as it relates to delivery of physical bullion, that banks will pay a premium. This is a bizarre situation.
- What this strongly suggests
- is that the system is breaking down.

It suggests that entities which are in the know, sovereigns and central banks that want to accumulate gold,

- They....... don’t trust.... the system anymore.
- They ...don’t trust..... the paper contracts.

So the paper contracts for future delivery trade at a discount to current delivery.


What the market is saying is,
- ‘We want gold today, we don’t want your paper.
- We don’t want to hear from you JP Morgan and
- we .....don’t trust you.... COMEX.
We want gold and we want it delivered physically today, and if you can’t do that we don’t want to do business with you.’

And this is why...... gold for spot delivery today trades at a premium to the paper for future delivery in a week, a month, two months and three months.

The gold delivery system....... is all based on trust,
- and trust..... is breaking down.

What this means is that the setup for gold is as good as if not better than Nasdaq tech stocks in the early 1990s.”





Saturn6 - 26 Jul 2013 08:25 - 478 of 1034

Gaz - For it will come on all those who live on the face of the whole earth. Be always on the watch, and pray that you may be able to escape all that is about to happen, and that you may be able to stand before the Son of Man.” Luke 21:35-36

Unfortunately most of us are too busy 'watching' ...sports, tv , movies, markets etc.. we have unwittingly become a world of spectators. When Luke tells us to keep 'Watch' with full attention and vigilance, just as a soldier is to keep watch and be alert for any sign of enemy movement.

This may help those who are looking to escape...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UF5XL0md42I

S.

gazkaz - 26 Jul 2013 13:54 - 479 of 1034

Sahara
- faith and to live by the positive teachings of the bible is a wonderful thing;
&, certainly beats hands down - those that follow the..left..path, and the daily visible evidence of what they get up to,
- and how they view & treat , us, their biblical "neighbour"
- never mind ..what they get up to ..in private.

gazkaz - 26 Jul 2013 14:08 - 480 of 1034

In tonights boxing bout, the judges combined scorecard
- in the "red corner" out of, central bank, we have fighting at "paper weight"
....Paper Fiat
- marked as heavily losing ..8 rounds.. & only marginally sraping minor positive in just 2 judges opinions - The Australian & New Zealand

In the "green corner" out of, real money, we have fighting at "heavy weight"
....Real Metal

And the clear winner, scoring a 10yr record busting judges score of 177.25 is.....
- Real Metal





I think in the present, upcoming bout, then maybe, based on it's recent undefeated record
- Real Metal

may be - a heavy odds on favourite

gazkaz - 26 Jul 2013 14:14 - 481 of 1034

Gold/Silver ratio

Over the last decade this chart indicates
- Gold has outperformed Silver when...... precious metals are being... sold off.
But
- Silver is actually ......the better performer.... when the metals ...are rallying.

So Silver ,going forward
(should the precious metals... in fact be turning higher).
- looks as tho' tradionally, based on the the last 10yrs
- Silver should be......the better performer



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