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AdieH...I am lucky so far my portfolio has been blue virtually since I started, except for a brief period when I listened to my hubby who got greedy and said my profits were not enough! I sold out of PDX a little while ago after 4 timesing my money. Looking to get back in on a dip. I feel SEO now has more potential though.

Andysmith...Wow good luck with your daughters savings, I would not like to put other peoples money into anything as much as SEO is a dynamite star!

Good Luck dynamite, got into pdx at 48p, sold out on nice profit, bought back in sub 2.00 and waiting for 4.00 approx.

SEO well I would like to see 10p then maybe take some profit...

Good Luck to all.

Eric,

Using some different charting s/w, I have found a previous peak in the SP at 7p. So if we can break through that price on a close for two days then the next initial stop according to my trend lines would be 8p. Clearly though the share has its own dynamic. As for Blue Index you should ask them what they think!! Hope that helps, and as I said earlier I am keeping my powder dry for the time being!

John

Eric and John,

I have been back to when the share was first listed and found that on 26/1/1999 the share shot up from 1/2p to 16p returning to 1/2p on 2/2/1999 -- Strange.
In Jan 2000 it again went up from 3p to 7p and traded between 7p and 4p until approx July 2000 when it was back down to trading between 2 and 4p until Oct 2003 when it went up to the present range between 4 and 6p. Hope that doesnt complicate things. SD

Eric and John,

The 16p rocket does not show up on two other charting programmes so it could be an error in the data, SD

John and SEADOG

I see the 7p peak but, of course, that was in the previous incarnation as a provided of optical fibres. Wouldn't the theory chaps discount that event? Incidentally, I am trawling through PDX at the moment which has a lot of parallels with SEO. The two main contrasts are: SEO are some six months ahead in coming to market; nevertheless, the cap. of PDX is nearing 100M. Now, would the explanation be that PDX have had analyst brokers to push the sp whereas SEO are content with media consultants? I suspect that SEO is undevalued - suggests sp should be more like 12.5p to give 100m cap. Well, that's my fundamentalist target anyway!

No reply yet to my queries on PDX thread which appears less active: what is price structure for new equipment? is there a parallel to royalties structure of SEO and, if so, what? has share been written up as PLAY in Shares? Anyone here who can help?

Eric

Hi EWR, they are looking to licence the pumps to companies, they have agreed one licencing deal with Coca Cola (UK) also tie up with another food manufacturing company (no figures have been quoted).

They are have also set up a different division regarding "firemist" which could be the biggest revenue of them all, lots of trials etc going on.

If you want further information I would suggest you look at their website (pursuitdynamics). Hope this is of some help.

Regards AdieH.

Eric,

PDX was a Shares Mag Blue sky share in July 2003 when it was 46p, it was listed as a potential ten bagger. It has since been mentioned again sometime last year but not so well written about.

No one seems to know what the price structure is for PDX pumps. They have sold 30 pumps to Coca cola but no prices were mentioned. The product is fantastic and I do not doubt PDX will go up and even end up in the FT100 but that is very long term. In the short term everyone has PDX fever and the price has been pushed skyhigh with a tiny turnover, it is all based on the future potential. I for one am out of PDX for the present, although it is the one share that has made me the most money.(4 times my money) The fy results are due out soon and they will not be good. I am looking to buy back in probably around 180 because the results will produce a big dip unless of course another contract is announced in which case it will fly, PDX fever style, that's the risk I take.

For the moment I think SEO is a better longer term bet and I think I will 10 times my money with SEO long before I will with PDX at current prices. I was the first to compare PDX and SEO on this BB and I still stick by it and I have said before, SEO is way ahead on revenue and at a ridiculous low price. All IMHO DYOR

Hope this helps.
Diana

Dynamite, AdieH

Thanks for the help with PDX. The July 17th 2003 article was good; recommendation at 43p as a potential 10-bagger; well its already a 5-bagger so only double from here! Mention is made of licensing but I can't find reference to royalties, which is what is so attractive about SEO. Charts are much less positive for PDX than SEO so I'll put them on the active watchlist. Mind, I love their technology solution; its just that the price is further ahead of itself than SEO.

There were three 1M trades in SEO between 08:10 and 08:15 (one trade, 2 reported an hour later). All are shown as sells but, of course, the T sell must have a T buyer! My reckoning is that the O trades are buys because the price was marked up immediately rather than down.

Eric

Good points Diana.

Eric, As a contrast I like the look of the PDX chart, and will be looking to buy in. As for Fundamentals on SEO, you are correct in that previous SP high's were made under different incarnations of potential products...and of course the glory days of the last bull run. However you asked for a strict chart view and in that case you read as much as you can from what the charts tell you...on the other hand....!! Seriously if the SEO SP breaks through this trading range it is into new terriority. Perhaps today's push is because of the EVO link, but that may become a negative in days to come...ala YOO...who knows! Hence the need IMO to wait for a 2 day break.

Have a profitable day. John

John

Thanks for that. I believe Evolution were commenting as analysts rather than having a direct commission, although I suspect that the sp needs that role to be filled. You mention a two day break: I suspect this is to avoid a spike but I can't remember reading about that in Kahn. I'll hold off until tomorrow before investing the gain on the CFDs though. I think I have learnt the lesson about FRIWAFTT (Fools, etc!) Happy trading!

Eric

Eric,

The 2 day rule is one of my golden rules...others use it as well. Re Kahn, good but no one book or 'guru' has written the holy grail on this. What they write has worked for them etc...so I find it best to take what works for me, and build up a set of rules based on experience.

John

wow!! cant believe how busy this thread has become lately. we must be doing well. price hitting 7p ceiling again . hoping for breakout but i dont feel too confidant. there has been no news . are people buying in hope of asda making the trials a deal? or is there something in the wind ? do certain priviledged people know who the mystery company is?if it breaks out i will take some profit and wait for the inevitable dip when cc is finalised.

worthwhile looking at the link provided earlier . i thought seo had patented starch based packaging yet there is no mention of seo in the article. interesting..... as sainsburys and macdonalds were the companies mentioned in the original article i read on seo as being keen on seos technology.

bosley

Here we are, having to sell your own stock to you! lol! Well, I've done my own research and concluded that SEO is a 10-bagger, giving it a couple of years, anyway. Still only 50m cap compared to PDX at nearly 100K and not so far along the road. Broken through resistance level so should move to higher ground. My price objective is 12.5p, i.e. cap of 100K. Convincing factor to me though is a fundamental - machine costs 40K then 30K PER ANNUM royalties. Straight through to the bottom line. 100 machines is 3m to the bottom line. 1000 machines is 30M to the bottom line. How long will that take? Plan to use the CFD gain to fund more CFDs - can make a 10-bagger a 100-bagger that way! Do I sound balanced and objective - yes, its all head stuff, really (or should I have said, heady)!

Eric

Bosley
I didnt pick up on that I assumed that the article meant SEO may be not
"We have lead suppliers with whom we work very closely on new technology "

Link again below

http://www.packworld.com/articles/Related_Articles/14472.html

Bosley, can't believe your nervous now having held for so long and just as some of the previous cautious folk and doubters are getting on board.
Main driver will be the sealing technology, it is needed desperately by the packers and retailers to reduce costs, waste and taxes. There is already a massive market for meat packaging, thermoformable and tray lidding.
The article above makes the main point that I have tried to drive at, RETAILERS CAN SPECIFY THE PACKAGING AND TECHNOLOGY THAT IS USED. Once Asda/Sainsburys etc specify, the whole thing will go, Tescos/Morrisons etc and the dosh will just roll in, year on year under licence to patented technology.
The article refers to another SEO string on the bow, biodegradable starch based films and these will take a while to be adopted as its costs are higher but with waste taxes around the corner and desires of McDonalds etc to be environment concious it could happen.
Use of this films may not be patented but the process to deliver better quality at lower cost may be what Stanelco have?
Its tempting to take profit in case it drops back but knowing my luck this will be the bull run we've waited for and we'll have to buy back at higher sp.
I'd rather hold and if it does drop see it as a buying opportunity.
Each to their own, difficult one to call. Good Luck

Its got a long way to run unless it has to mortgage itself to pay BPRG.%+)

Long term holder, not enough though.

Fred1new

So you don't have enough? Then buy some more! Easy solution! Sell some of those dogs and buy one of the 2005 winners! Uncle Eric says so!

Eric