Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).

Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.

cheers GF.

What I don't agree with is : the referendum on Europe; now is that going to make people vote Tory ?...it's putting me right off !.......but the problem is that in the UK the average person in the street probably doesn't want to be with Europe....but then again perhaps they do.....what is the point of this ?....Britain is part of the common market....what shouldn't have been agreed is that all the riffraff throw-outs of Europe arriving here on our shores....this is why the "you quits" are doing well.....it is too late to debate whether we should be part of the common market, but immigration is a massive problem with all the rubbish from Africa arriving on our doorsteps as well !...do we want that middle east no good lot here ?.....if these people were well educated : it wouldn't be so bad, but they are not...it ends up with: crime...drugs..murders..and puts our own jobs at risk because these people will work for much less than us as their own countries are one big F---up...and British people no longer feel at home in their own country !...

To add to this : I fear that this referendum nonsense is an election loser !...and as far as the markets are concerned : it will create market uncertainty in the UK for years as nothing is clear at all....what difference is yes or no going to make ?.....what is JC going to do if he wins the next election ?.....go back to the Euro big-wigs,,, hey...we want a better deal....they are going to answer....vee shall think about zis and will get back to you....it's all bollocks......and this is what we are governed by....jesus...

Seems similar to the indigenous population.

Should mix easily into the UK.

Didn't Britain, France Italy etc. rule these countries at sometime or other and educated and civilised them to "Western Ways" or was that just to pillage and rape?

Perhaps, I am wrong!

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It is similar to the whims of the London elite trying to socialise the NE.

(Or was that Harrowing of the North of England.)

http://order-order.com/2014/10/01/there-has-been-no-global-warming-for-past-18-years/

Dan Hodges CHRIS!!!!!!!!LOL LO LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LO LOL LOL LOL LO LOL LO LO LO LOL

Ohhhhhhh he hee ha ha ho ho arr ha ha aha hoo LOL.

You obviously dont know the history.

He's spot on though gf :0)

Aye!

Ashcroft poll this week

CON 32%(+5), LAB 32%(-1), LDEM 8%(-1), UKIP 17%(nc), GRN 4%(-2)

http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/danielhannan/100288458/does-anyone-think-that-ed-miliband-would-be-the-better-prime-minister-anyone-at-all/

http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2014/sep/27/mansion-tax-ed-miliband-labour-mps-london

Tessa Jowell and other London MPs fear levy on properties worth more than £2m would drive 'asset rich but cash poor' from their homes

Ed Miliband is facing resistance from senior Labour MPs in London – including potential candidates to be mayor – to his flagship plan to impose a mansion tax on properties worth more than £2m, as concern grows that it will hit too many people on average or low incomes.

http://www.economist.com/news/britain/21620260-labour-leader-flunks-one-his-last-opportunities-look-worthy-prime-minister

The dreary world of Ed Miliband

The Labour leader flunks one of his last opportunities to look like a worthy prime minister

.......

Ed the undeserving

Absent something astonishing, Mr Miliband is not going to change the poor opinion most Britons have formed of him before the election. If he wins power, it will be down to the rise of the UK Independence Party, which has split the right. Weak, accidental, unprepared for the austerity measures it would be forced to undertake and with no popular mandate for Mr Miliband’s bold ideas, his government would have its disadvantages.

That no one in Manchester showed much relish for power may be partly down to François Hollande. Mr Miliband once lauded the French president’s left-wing programme, which has since flopped. Now he is threatening to emulate it—without the sex.

If anybody would think Cameron to be a fit and proper person to be a PM after his proposals in his speech to-day promising falsehoods.

Proposals, which would commencing in 2018. (Relating them to today, but not the effect of inflation.)

I think the majority of votes will see him as a liar and that the NHS and Welfare services are definitely not safe in his hands.

He is a laughing stock and insulting to the public.

I pity the poor party sycophants who are set up to defend his policies.

Yep notice how the slimey creep today didnt put any dates on his proposals, trying to con the public once again.

Hays the best thing about your poll is the UKIP figure.

labour only need it at 9 to have an overall majority.

LATEST UNS PROJECTION
44 Overall Labour seat majority.


UKPR POLLING AVERAGE
32con 36Lab 8lib Dem

Working People Cannot Afford Five More Years of David Cameron
Posted: 01/10/2014 20:47 BST Updated: 4 hours ago

David Cameron and George Osborne have presided over an unprecedented cost of living crisis. Yet listening to the Prime Minister on Wednesday you might be left with the impression that the economy has been fixed and that life is getting easier for most people. In fact, nothing could be further from the truth.

The truth is that under the Tories working people are £1,600 a year worse off. David Cameron may think that people struggling to make ends meet up and down the country are going to be fooled by unfunded pie in the sky pre-election tax cuts promised for six years time. I think not.

David Cameron circa 2008 had it right. "You can't talk about tax reduction unless you can show how it is paid for, the public aren't stupid". But's that's exactly what we saw on Wednesday.

These "tax cuts" are an unfunded spending commitment of over £7billion.

£7billion.

That's not exactly lose change.

How are the Tories going to pay for it? Will they raise VAT on families and pensioners again? It's no wonder the Tories are so desperate to block Labour's plans to allow the independent Office for Budget Responsibility to audit the spending and tax plans of the main political parties.

The only thing we have learnt for sure this week from the Tories is that they're going to cut tax credits for millions of hard working people. This announcement on Monday means that a one earner family with two children on £25,000 a year will lose £495 by 2017/18. This week, the Institute of Fiscal Studies showed that the changes in the personal allowance will see the same family's income increase by just £176 in 2020/21.

So while working families see their incomes decrease, Wednesday's announcements means that the Prime Minister and Cabinet Minister will see their incomes increase by 2020/21. And let's not forget that the richest one per cent will keep a £3billion tax cut. This doesn't look like "we're all in this together" to me.

And if there is one decision taken by the Tories that tells us all we need to know about their priorities and who they stand for, then their tax cut for millionaires is it. Labour will balance the books as soon as possible in the next Parliament, but we will make fairer choices. A Labour Government would cut taxes for millions on middle and low incomes with a lower 10p starting rate of tax and reintroduce a top rate of 50p for those earning over £150,000.

And we will reverse the neglect of the NHS under the Tories.

Despite everything he says, David Cameron has made it harder, not easier, to get a GP appointment. After the election, it was David Cameron who scrapped Labour's GP appointment guarantee and cut support for evening and weekend opening. The Prime Minister's broken promises on the NHS have now caught up with him.

So the next Labour Government will guarantee a GP appointment within 48 hours or a same-day consultation with a doctor or nurse for those who need it. And, as Ed Miliband and Ed Balls outlined last week, Labour's plan for the NHS means extra funding and a commitment to recruit 8000 more GPs and 20,000 more nurses. But, unlike David Cameron, we can tell you how we will pay for our plans.

The £2.5billion NHS Time to Care Fund will be funded by a mansion tax on homes worth more than £2million, tackling tax avoidance and asking tobacco firms to pay their fair share. This commitment is something the Tories won't match.

The truth is that only Labour will reward people who work hard and only Labour will save the NHS on which we all rely.

The truth is that the Tories will never build a better future for working people because they stand up only for a privileged few.

The truth is that working people cannot afford five more years of David Cameron.

The truth is that only Labour will reward people who work hard and only Labour will save the NHS on which we all rely.

The truth is that the Tories will never build a better future for working people because they stand up only for a privileged few.

The truth is that working people cannot afford five more years of David Cameron.

The truth is that only Labour will reward people who work hard give taxpayers' money to scavengers and only Labour will save mis-manage the NHS on which we all rely.

The truth is that the Tories will never always build a better future for working people because they stand up only for a privileged few encourage economic growth and full employment.

The truth is that working people cannot afford five more years of David Cameron years of Dickhead Milibland.

Amen.

i do find it very strange that sticky is still an active member of his local conservative club
not sure how he manages to square his (alleged) views with the other members .... perhaps the beer is so cheap there that he just buys them round after round from the huge rental income from his o'seas properties

Manuel,

It is a bit like going down to the local zoo or museum to see the content but not really belonging there.

But in your case you may feel at home in either.