Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).

Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.

cheers GF.

http://www.economist.com/news/britain/21620260-labour-leader-flunks-one-his-last-opportunities-look-worthy-prime-minister

The dreary world of Ed Miliband

The Labour leader flunks one of his last opportunities to look like a worthy prime minister

.......

Ed the undeserving

Absent something astonishing, Mr Miliband is not going to change the poor opinion most Britons have formed of him before the election. If he wins power, it will be down to the rise of the UK Independence Party, which has split the right. Weak, accidental, unprepared for the austerity measures it would be forced to undertake and with no popular mandate for Mr Miliband’s bold ideas, his government would have its disadvantages.

That no one in Manchester showed much relish for power may be partly down to François Hollande. Mr Miliband once lauded the French president’s left-wing programme, which has since flopped. Now he is threatening to emulate it—without the sex.

If anybody would think Cameron to be a fit and proper person to be a PM after his proposals in his speech to-day promising falsehoods.

Proposals, which would commencing in 2018. (Relating them to today, but not the effect of inflation.)

I think the majority of votes will see him as a liar and that the NHS and Welfare services are definitely not safe in his hands.

He is a laughing stock and insulting to the public.

I pity the poor party sycophants who are set up to defend his policies.

Yep notice how the slimey creep today didnt put any dates on his proposals, trying to con the public once again.

Hays the best thing about your poll is the UKIP figure.

labour only need it at 9 to have an overall majority.

LATEST UNS PROJECTION
44 Overall Labour seat majority.


UKPR POLLING AVERAGE
32con 36Lab 8lib Dem

Working People Cannot Afford Five More Years of David Cameron
Posted: 01/10/2014 20:47 BST Updated: 4 hours ago

David Cameron and George Osborne have presided over an unprecedented cost of living crisis. Yet listening to the Prime Minister on Wednesday you might be left with the impression that the economy has been fixed and that life is getting easier for most people. In fact, nothing could be further from the truth.

The truth is that under the Tories working people are £1,600 a year worse off. David Cameron may think that people struggling to make ends meet up and down the country are going to be fooled by unfunded pie in the sky pre-election tax cuts promised for six years time. I think not.

David Cameron circa 2008 had it right. "You can't talk about tax reduction unless you can show how it is paid for, the public aren't stupid". But's that's exactly what we saw on Wednesday.

These "tax cuts" are an unfunded spending commitment of over £7billion.

£7billion.

That's not exactly lose change.

How are the Tories going to pay for it? Will they raise VAT on families and pensioners again? It's no wonder the Tories are so desperate to block Labour's plans to allow the independent Office for Budget Responsibility to audit the spending and tax plans of the main political parties.

The only thing we have learnt for sure this week from the Tories is that they're going to cut tax credits for millions of hard working people. This announcement on Monday means that a one earner family with two children on £25,000 a year will lose £495 by 2017/18. This week, the Institute of Fiscal Studies showed that the changes in the personal allowance will see the same family's income increase by just £176 in 2020/21.

So while working families see their incomes decrease, Wednesday's announcements means that the Prime Minister and Cabinet Minister will see their incomes increase by 2020/21. And let's not forget that the richest one per cent will keep a £3billion tax cut. This doesn't look like "we're all in this together" to me.

And if there is one decision taken by the Tories that tells us all we need to know about their priorities and who they stand for, then their tax cut for millionaires is it. Labour will balance the books as soon as possible in the next Parliament, but we will make fairer choices. A Labour Government would cut taxes for millions on middle and low incomes with a lower 10p starting rate of tax and reintroduce a top rate of 50p for those earning over £150,000.

And we will reverse the neglect of the NHS under the Tories.

Despite everything he says, David Cameron has made it harder, not easier, to get a GP appointment. After the election, it was David Cameron who scrapped Labour's GP appointment guarantee and cut support for evening and weekend opening. The Prime Minister's broken promises on the NHS have now caught up with him.

So the next Labour Government will guarantee a GP appointment within 48 hours or a same-day consultation with a doctor or nurse for those who need it. And, as Ed Miliband and Ed Balls outlined last week, Labour's plan for the NHS means extra funding and a commitment to recruit 8000 more GPs and 20,000 more nurses. But, unlike David Cameron, we can tell you how we will pay for our plans.

The £2.5billion NHS Time to Care Fund will be funded by a mansion tax on homes worth more than £2million, tackling tax avoidance and asking tobacco firms to pay their fair share. This commitment is something the Tories won't match.

The truth is that only Labour will reward people who work hard and only Labour will save the NHS on which we all rely.

The truth is that the Tories will never build a better future for working people because they stand up only for a privileged few.

The truth is that working people cannot afford five more years of David Cameron.

The truth is that only Labour will reward people who work hard and only Labour will save the NHS on which we all rely.

The truth is that the Tories will never build a better future for working people because they stand up only for a privileged few.

The truth is that working people cannot afford five more years of David Cameron.

The truth is that only Labour will reward people who work hard give taxpayers' money to scavengers and only Labour will save mis-manage the NHS on which we all rely.

The truth is that the Tories will never always build a better future for working people because they stand up only for a privileged few encourage economic growth and full employment.

The truth is that working people cannot afford five more years of David Cameron years of Dickhead Milibland.

Amen.

i do find it very strange that sticky is still an active member of his local conservative club
not sure how he manages to square his (alleged) views with the other members .... perhaps the beer is so cheap there that he just buys them round after round from the huge rental income from his o'seas properties

Manuel,

It is a bit like going down to the local zoo or museum to see the content but not really belonging there.

But in your case you may feel at home in either.

Aye, and just in case he's also a member of the local Liberal Club (didn't know they existed). Plastic Man U fan to boot :0)

I think gf has been radicalised by red Fred.
2517

Is this a Manuel of Haze likealick:

NHS safe in Dave's hand, as it is at the moment. Creaking and failing and seams coming apart.

What it needs is a few caring scivies and carers of the likes of the Hairy one to sort it out!





It is the track record of this government which will hang it!

Whey Hey, So much for Camerons best ever speech............

Update - Labour lead at 7
by YouGov in Politics
Thu October 2, 2014 6 a.m. BST

Latest YouGov / The Sun results 1st Oct - Con 31%, Lab 38%, LD 7%, UKIP 15%

cynic - 02 Oct 2014 08:16 - 46634 of 46640

i do find it very strange that sticky is still an active member of his local conservative club
not sure how he manages to square his (alleged) views with the other members .... perhaps the beer is so cheap there that he just buys them round after round from the huge rental income from his o'seas properties.................

Cynic they have all gone over to UKIP. You are behind the times, nobody trusts Cameron or Osbourne anymore.

Come on, Hils. Tell it like it is!

PS. I see yet another hung parliament and, rather unfortunately, I'm a UKIP/Tory coalition man out of necessity. I think they can and will get together and form a much better alliance than the Lib-Dem/Tory version we've all experienced.

And then politics will be much more interesting for me because I do like to hear what Nigel Farage has to say. I feel he could influence tons of common sense into things, particularly to do with immigration.

And what about Boris beginning to come to the political fore? More great fun! If there is a coalition then Farage might be made Deputy PM and Boris could be made, erm, err, erm.... Hmmm? Aha! Transport, Business and Housing Minister (and Mayor of London for a while as well!).

I think we should decide the General Election by the major political parties playing each other at games of Zorb Football:

ah but sticky, you seem to have pretensions of being a labour voter

Doc,

Farage is a racist bigot. He gets away with making soundbites because, in his position, it's easy for him to do. The great British public are stupid, they like to listen to his soundbites and they fall for it.

But, if you think there's going to be a Tory/UKIP coalition after the next election, you really must have rocks in your head. At best, UKIP will get a couple of seats - hardly enough to constitute being a coalition partner.

As I've said previously, Britain operates a two-party political system. It always has done, and it always will do in a first past the post electoral system. Once the Europe issue has been resolved (and, imo, it really does need to be resolved - it's gone on for far too long, and the public should have the right to decide), UKIP will fade into oblivion and Nigel Farage will go back to being a second-hand car salesman.