Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).

Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.

cheers GF.

Conservative party conference: Osborne ‘misled’ voters over benefits freeze
By john pring 3/10/2014

The chancellor has been accused of misleading voters, after he pledged that disability benefits would not be affected by a two-year “freeze” on social security.
George Osborne told a delighted Conservative party conference in Birmingham this week that working-age benefits would have to be frozen for two years from April 2016 – if they win the next election.
It follows the one per cent cap on increases Osborne announced in his 2012 autumn statement.
He said the freeze would save more than £3 billion – in addition to £100 billion of cuts already made in this parliament, and as part of a further £25 billion in savings needed in the next parliament – but that “pensioner benefits and disability benefits will be excluded”.
A note included in Osborne’s press release states that benefits covered by the freeze include jobseeker’s allowance, tax credits, local housing allowance rates in housing benefit and “the work-related activity group [WRAG] component in employment and support allowance”.
The party made it clear that disability living allowance – and its working-age replacement, personal independence payment – would be protected from the freeze and would rise in line with inflation, as would the disability elements of benefits such as tax credits and universal credit.
The party also insisted that the support group component of ESA would be excluded from the cap.
Media coverage of the announcement repeated Osborne’s assertion that “disability benefits will be excluded”, with the chancellor continuing to insist that “the vulnerable and people with disabilities are protected”.
The BBC’s Nick Robinson wrote that the freeze would include “Employment Support Allowance paid to those judged capable of work but it would not affect pensions, disability benefits and maternity pay”.
The Daily Mail said that “benefits paid to disabled people, carers and pensioners are unaffected”, while the Daily Mirror wrote: “Pensioners, the disabled and new mums will not be hit”.
And Karim Sacoor, the current chair of the Conservative Disability Group, told Disability News Service (DNS): “From what I heard, it was clear in my mind that disabled people are protected.”
But DNS has confirmed with special advisers to both George Osborne and work and pensions secretary Iain Duncan Smith that disabled people in the ESA support group – those with the highest support needs – will be hit by the freeze.
This is because the main ESA component – currently up to £72.40 a week for those over 25 – will be frozen for two years from April 2016, even though the support group top-up of £35.75 will continue to rise at the rate of inflation.
Those placed in the work-related activity group – for those with lower support needs – will see their entire ESA of up to £101.15 a week frozen for those two years.
Dr Sarah Campbell, principal co-author of the Spartacus report, said: “Sick and disabled people who, after a battery of tests, have been found unable to work, should be sheltered from government cuts and their benefits protected from a freeze.
“George Osborne has now twice been misleading by publicly claiming that disability benefits were or would be unaffected by government cuts: once from the one per cent uprating cap and now from the benefit freeze.
“Furthermore, both times the public has been misled into believing that only disabled people in the WRAG would be affected when in fact the support group of ESA also bears the brunt of these policies.
“Not only are the policies unfair, but this misinformation is wrong and unacceptable. Both MPs and the voters should know exactly who is paying the cost. The government should come clean and admit that disabled people are not protected.”
A spokesman for Osborne told DNS the chancellor had said the freeze excluded disability benefits “because it excludes disability living allowance and the personal independence payment, attendance allowance, industrial injuries disability benefit and carer’s allowance.
“The ESA main element and WRAG are included because it’s a work-related benefit.”
Shaun Webster, a project coordinator with CHANGE, a national human rights organisation led by disabled people, said the benefits freeze showed the government was “attacking the poor again”.
Webster, who was attending the conference through sponsorship from People First England (PFE), said: “It is always the poor that suffer. I don’t know why they don’t tax the rich people, the bankers who caused this mess.
“It is like we are being bullied. We have got learning disabilities and we are poor. It is just unfair. It is spiteful.”
Gary Bourlet, co-development lead at PFE, said he believed the benefits freeze showed that “we are getting away from a caring society”.
3 October 2014
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Gf, yes he did say that he had his solicitor on the case. I'm not making it up.

sticky will flatten him ..... he's 6'9" and 20 stone, or so i recollect he told me, and that is his fighting weight too :-)

gf - You are a fan of black and white (apparently). I presume this is what doodlebug4 is referring to :-

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1906-1909 - Purple 11 02Oct14 - 07.25

As is the case cockers start pulling out the bowl charts (yaaawn) just as the stock starts to fall.


Cockney Rebel 03Oct - 09.36 - 1909 of 1909

Your filtered Purple11 - (Mechanical Trader) I can't see what you're saying but ADVFN are on notice of Legal Action against them if they let you so much as post anything like you've been posting. AND you're on the receiving end too if you post anything like that again.

CR

The above may be a case of mistaken identity gf maybe you would care to clarify?

If true, I trust you will be adding the additional user name (Purple 11) to your other user names on the Chart Thread? Cheers!

Chris, apart from all that I did read another post by Cockney Rebel which said his solicitor was on the case. You have been the brunt of some offensive comments on this bulletin board by gf and I have as well. There is a dividing line between harmless banter and stuff that becomes quite nasty. Unfortunately gf cannot seem to appreciate that difference.

LOL Christine (Chris C), your absolutely right .......for once cheers. I owe you a pint.

Now Doodles if your such a little snitch take the good news back to your boss,

Do you really think after consulting his solicitor DAYS AGO he wouldnt have had me now.

It takes what... 30 minutes to get hold of my address(phone call to IP Provider) another 24 hours for a court order to release, (although I would have done it voluntary) and say 24 hours to serve.

And do you really think I wouldnt have consulted my solicitors.

Its staring you in the face doodles, I thought you were an inteligent person.

And by the way dont you think I havent got the other post you mention......I have.

Do you really think im scared cowering under the table.

Theirs a thirdy party here. I cant mention it obviously.

Just grow up and stop pretending your not one of his lemmings.

cheers purple.

Well in that case gf stick your pint, chart thread and this one up your arse! Your pathetic.

Ohhh is that so.

So whats pathetic, come on brave man.?????????

Come on Chris Im waiting.

Thought you had me in a corner Chris, LOL, dream on sunshine.

I have everything I need.

And your a dim wit for believing the rubbish spouted, Lord Carson.

Ohhhhhhhh dear the cat as got the boys tounge.

Boys I underline LOL. Adults would realise theirs 2 sides to a squabble.

Its obvious Doodles as per usual is just listening to one side, Carson I actually informed after HE ASKED ME. pathetic from both of you.

If you had just one iota of sense gf then you would keep your mouth shut. As you well know it takes solicitors quite some time to assimilate all the necessary information before deciding whether to advise a client if he/she has enough ammunition to proceed with court proceedings. Since you haven't been posting on advfn recently I presume you have again been banned.

Give some people enough rope and they will eventually hang themselves.

solicitors will rarely agree to pursue litigation to the nth degree unless they haven't yet been on holiday

Doodles

ohhhh is that so. And no I havent been banned from advfn.

If I was you,...... Id think about what you yourself are saying here as you may indeed be implicated in any further developments.

I have everything on my side.

I have nothing to fear.

Nothing at all.

Lol

LOL as much as you want, 'the balls in my court'. Its so easy.

I just happen to go about these things professionally rather than boasting and spouting out for bravado self interest like your friend across the road.

To the contrary, I get the impression that it's the other way round - which is one of the reasons so many posters on advfn have you filtered. It is hardly professional behaviour when you try to rubbish other posters who have earned respect and if you haven't figured that out by now then nothing I say will help get the message through.

Well said doodlebug4, I'm voting with my feet won't be back cheers!

Doodles you are a sorry individual and a lemming like I previously pointed out...... Who for God sake as said you have earned there respect. ????? i havent seen anything like.

I said on advfn I thought you were an online friend about a month ago, that can still stand.

And as for myself Im strictly Freelance, i dont need an army to push stock prices up. I walk and tread a path of my own.

Anybody on here who knows there stuff knows that.

And yes its true Im a tough hard individual and sometimes I know hard to understand , but were a bit like that in yorkshire, bit lll tell you this id be the first person to try and get you out of a burning building, and i have done that, and rescued a young kid from drownding in a frozen ice canal.

As for you Christine, your letting pre match nerves get to you. Grow up and sleep it off.

I didn't say anywhere that I had earned respect. You have tried to destroy the reputation of a respected poster on advfn by carrying on a sustained vendetta against him and that is an undisputable fact. The fact that the poster in question has been stuck in a wheelchair since the age of 17 makes your vendetta even more nauseating in my view.