Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).

Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.

cheers GF.

But, he will be able to do another U-TURN!

Thats why Tories are moving over to UKIP.

Farage says Cameron's EU plan a 'gross deception'


By Caroline Copley

WINTERTHUR Switzerland Sun Oct 5, 2014 6:33am BST

http://uk.reuters.com/article/2014/10/05/uk-britain-politics-ukip-swiss-idUKKCN0HT0N120141005






(Reuters) - The leader of Britain's anti-EU party UKIP on Saturday predicted that divisions between rich and poor would spell doom for the single currency and the dream of a United States of Europe.

Nigel Farage, head of the United Kingdom Independence Party, told a packed political meeting to rapturous applause:

"I live in a Europe that is divided North to South by the euro, with the North doing reasonably OK and the South being forced into poverty.



"It is now inevitable that this 'United States of Europe' will not be completed; it is now inevitable that countries will leave the euro; it is now inevitable that countries will leave the union."

Farage was in Switzerland to give a speech called "The Doomed Euro" to members of Action for an Independent and Neutral Switzerland (AUNS), an ally of the SVP - Switzerland's biggest political party - which has made opposition to European Union membership a linchpin of its policies.

Earlier this year, Swiss voters approved a proposal by the SVP to reintroduce quotas on immigrants from the European Union. The move has put at risk Switzerland's bilateral accords with the bloc, since free movement of labour is a key element of the package.

Farage, whose party has siphoned off voters from the Conservatives by attacking European bureaucracy and immigration from Eastern Europe, said Prime Minister David Cameron's pledge to curb intra-EU immigration was a "gross deception".

He said the same applied to a pre-election plan announced by Cameron on Friday to quit the European Court of Human Rights (ECHR) unless it agrees that Britain's parliament has the final say over its rulings.

"The only way you can say the ECHR can’t override is by leaving the EU," Farage told Reuters on the sidelines of the meeting.

The European Court of Human Rights is not part of the structure of the 28-member European Union. It is an institution of the 47-member Council of Europe, including Russia and Turkey.

Straining to pacify the Eurosceptic wing of his own party, Cameron has promised to renegotiate Britain's EU ties if re-elected, before holding an EU membership referendum in 2017. Last week, he said would seek to alter the bloc's freedom of movement rules.

UKIP wants an immediate British withdrawal from the EU and an end to what it calls an "open door" immigration policy. It has no seats in the British parliament but holds 24 of Britain's 73 seats in the European Parliament.

The rise of Farage's anti-EU party has unsettled Conservative lawmakers, who are concerned that UKIP could split the centre-right vote at next year's national election.

"I think UK politics is in a greater state of flux than it has been at any stage in my lifetime," Farage said.

UKIP argues that Britain would be more democratic and prosperous outside the European Union.




(Reporting by Caroline Copley; Editing by Stephen Powell)

Max.......... it is a gross deception.

No doubt we'l get Hays with the usual buster.

MaxK come on now the truth are you really crossing the line and moving over from Tory to UKIP???

Max,

P 46811

The usual ramblings of the leader of a demented party wishing to blame others for their own failings.

Come on Max commit yourself.

Come on Max.

What do you want me to say gf?

Either Tory Vote or UKIP vote at GE, you cant vote both.

And remember youve been pushing UKIP for a long time but this month gone rather quiet.

Look nothing against you personaly but I liked your write ups on a daily basis and they seem to have dried up and now are directed at labour. It was good reading as all your posts are.

Can't believe this, blimey all this talk and you could be watching the Lib/Dems conference .

Update - Conservatives lead at 2

by YouGov in Iraq and Politics
Sun October 5, 2014 6 a.m. BST

Latest YouGov / Sunday Times results 3rd Oct - Con 36%, Lab 34%, LD 7%, UKIP 13%;

LOL HAYS we already know. Stop posting old news.

gf.

I am a tory, always have been, but I wont vote for Cameroon and his ilk.

The other two eejits are out of the question, which leaves only one choice...UKIP


Now we all know ukip wont get in, but with a bit of luck it will bugger up the cosy consensus that comes with the other three....ie, more of the same.

Well Max youve been very honest...... I like that.

Ive always looked upon you as a decent type.

Well bar the first few weeks when you revealed you were an advaner and I had doubts.

Now your a accepted money amer and also one that puts a lot in.

Thanks Max.

All it will do is let Labour win the election. Voting for UKIP will achieve nothing of any value. It is just a protest vote. They are more of a pressure group than a party. Their mainstream policies are just plain silly.

blah blah blah blah blah blah.

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http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2014/10/04/ed-miliband-john-prescott_n_5932600.html

Ed Miliband 'Far Too Timid' And 'Preparing For Coalition,' John Prescott Says

Ed Miliband is showing a severe lack of ambition, ex-deputy prime minister John Prescott said in a damning assessment of the party leader's "far too timid" strategy and underwhelming party conference performance.

The former deputy prime minster said the Opposition leadership appeared to have resigned itself to not winning an overall majority at the 2015 general election and was seeking only to shore up its "core vote".

Urging Mr Miliband to "go all out for the win", he warned that "time is running out" to set out vote-winning policies to compete with the "belter" of a tax cut offer proposed by David Cameron at the Tory conference.

New Labour's 1997 landslide victory was secured by appealing to a broad range of voters across the country," he wrote in his Sunday Mirror column.

"But Ed seems to be pursuing a core vote strategy of getting 31% of traditional Labour supporters with a few ex-Lib Dem voters.

"He might as well have said at the end of his conference speech: 'Go back to your constituencies and prepare for coalition.'

"Ed might not like looking back but he can learn a lot from our 1997 campaign and our pledge card.

"Five polices on health, crime, jobs, education and tax that were costed, deliverable and drilled into voters on every doorstep. And at the next election we proved we delivered them.

"So come on Ed. Ditch the pollsters, the focus groups and US-style politics. Be bold, be brave and let's go all out for the win."

The "flat" Labour conference was a waste of a golden opportunity to enthuse voters, he wrote, while the Tory gathering the following week was marked by "smiles on faces, a confident leader and policies galore".

"Labour had a great opportunity to put flesh on the bone, with papers and TV channels giving Ed Miliband and his team a blank page to get their policies across," Prescott wrote.