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THE TALK TO YOURSELF THREAD. (NOWT)     

goldfinger - 09 Jun 2005 12:25

Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).

Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.

cheers GF.

Fred1new - 05 Oct 2014 14:17 - 46835 of 81564

Dreams,

Strange you pick an image of somebody, that some think, criminally cheated the Tax man and the country of an awful lot of money.

That opinion was not upheld by the jury!

But I see the appeal for you and he would for many make a suitable leader for the present party of tory CON artists.

aldwickk - 05 Oct 2014 15:12 - 46836 of 81564

Strange that someone who doesn't bother to vote in a General Election spends so much time telling others who they should or shouldn't vote for ?

Haystack - 05 Oct 2014 15:27 - 46837 of 81564

I am assuming that you mean Fred. Hypocrisy is one of his strong points.

Haystack - 05 Oct 2014 15:31 - 46838 of 81564

http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/commentators/donald-macintyres-sketch-macho-miliband-gets-scary--hes-the-terminator-with-the-eyes-of-ken-dodd-8837478.html

Donald Macintyre's Sketch: Macho Miliband gets scary - he’s the Terminator, with the eyes of Ken Dodd

Fred1new - 05 Oct 2014 15:40 - 46839 of 81564

Read the following article and one may be able to see why the CONs are going to lose the next G.E.

I think possibly the Lib Dems may not lose the number of seats that many have forecast and with a little bit of luck the tories will lose more:


http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2014/oct/04/vince-cable-excessive-tory-cuts-working-poor


Vince Cable slams excessive Conservative cuts on working poor
Lib Dem business secretary says Tories are planning punitive cuts that go 'far beyond' what is needed to cut deficit



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Another interesting Article :Tristram Hunt condemns David Cameron as a 'low-rent PR man'
Shadow education secretary retaliates after being singled out for 'highly personalised' attack in PM's conference speech



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I must admit I misread this as David Cameron being "a PR rent boy", which I suppose some of his financial backers may think him.

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http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2014/oct/04/tristram-hunt-condemns-david-cameron-low-rent-pr-man

aldwickk - 05 Oct 2014 15:58 - 46840 of 81564

As i was saying

cynic - 05 Oct 2014 16:02 - 46841 of 81564

you misunderstand aldo; it is a matter of principle that fred won't vote but he feels he has an absolute obligation to tell everyone else what a bunch of arseholes they are etc etc

anyway, sticky, fred, hays etc al can gibber and gibber as much as they like, but those who actually have a better idea what they're talking about have long been saying that it's all too close to call, and it is a view with which i too have long concurred

doodlebug4 - 05 Oct 2014 16:44 - 46842 of 81564

Apart from saying it's too close to call, there is also a view that Labour will lose a lot of seats in Scotland to the SNP.

doodlebug4 - 05 Oct 2014 16:44 - 46843 of 81564

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Haystack - 05 Oct 2014 16:53 - 46844 of 81564

Certainly there are a lot of Scots who feel betrayed by the Labour party for trying so hard to maintain the Union. That will result in a backlash, but it is difficult to tell the extent.

Haystack - 05 Oct 2014 16:59 - 46845 of 81564

I agree that the GE is far too close to call and there will likely be a coalition again (not involving UKIP). However, there is a slight momentum towards the Tories at present. UKIP is still the limiting factor in the parties' ambitions. Hopefully that may change a bit closer to the day.

goldfinger - 05 Oct 2014 17:03 - 46846 of 81564

Total bunkum. HAYS you are thick and doolebug4 is so dosey hes off the scale.

Haystack - 05 Oct 2014 17:07 - 46847 of 81564

http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2014/oct/05/senior-lib-dem-norman-lamb-warns-against-coalition-labour

Senior Lib Dem Norman Lamb warns against coalition with Labour

Lamb, seen as a potential Lib Dem leadership candidate, also said he does not see Ed Miliband as a credible prime minister

A senior Liberal Democrat minister has said he does not see Ed Miliband as a credible prime minister and warned it would be dangerous to go into coalition with Labour on a low share of the vote.

Norman Lamb, the care minister, said it would be difficult to sustain a partnership with Labour if the Conservatives came second in terms of seats, but won support from the highest number of voters.

The Lib Dems would be in a particularly difficult position if it won more seats than Ukip, but gained a lower share of the vote overall, he said.

With just seven months to go before the election, Liberal Democrats have been careful to leave the door open to a coalition with Labour or another alliance with the Tories.

Many within the the party would feel more comfortable in a coalition on the left, but Lamb said it could be a huge risk to go into partnership with Miliband and warned the party to be careful.

“There is the possibility that you could have Labour as the largest number of seats but the Tories as the largest number of votes. If there is any possibility of Labour in that situation going into coalition with the Lib Dems - the parties coming second and fourth - you would have zero honeymoon,” Lamb, who is seen as a potential leadership candidate, told a fringe meeting at the party’s conference in Glasgow.

“You would be attacked from the word go and it would be very, very hard to sustain it.”

The audience applauded as he said: “It is a political point, but it is one this party has to take very seriously. I’m afraid I don’t see Ed Miliband as a prime minister.

“The idea of us being latched into a Labour government with a low percentage of the vote led by Ed Miliband … What’s gone on with France under Hollande, I think it could be enormously damaging for our party to be that sort of relationship. It doesn’t mean it shouldn’t happen if it’s the right thing to do for the country, but the political implications I think are enormous.”

Nick Clegg has always made it clear that he would prefer to go into coalition with the largest party, saying it is up to the electorate to decide who they want to govern the country.

On Sunday, the deputy prime minister accused David Cameron of “beating the poor” and highlighted Ed Miliband’s failure to mention the deficit in his conference speech because he forgot the passage.

According to polling of marginals by Lord Ashcroft, a Conservative peer and former donor, the Lib Dems are in danger of losing 10 seats to Labour and 10 to the Conservatives.

Fred1new - 05 Oct 2014 17:31 - 46848 of 81564

DB4,

You may be correct about SNP gaining Scottish seats from Labour and possibly Lib Dems.

But you have to consider where the electees will cast their votes and what affiliations they are likely to make.

My guess is in a coalition government in general it would be with Labour or Lib Dems.

Could be wrong.
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Manuel,

Once again, I think you are again guilty of projection of your own traits on another person.

A feature of many old reactionaries.

In general, I feel no obligations to point out the fallibilities of others, but I am prepared to make exceptions in the cases such as yours and Haze.

Also, I enjoy making observations and waiting for them to be disproved. Politics interests me, the dishonesty of politicians even more.

goldfinger - 05 Oct 2014 17:31 - 46849 of 81564

Homelessness hits five-year high – Shelter 4/10/2014

The number of people made homeless because they were evicted by their private landlord has more than doubled in the last five years, new government figures show, according to Shelter.

In the past twelve months, 13,990 households were accepted as homeless by their council after their landlord ended their private rented tenancy, compared with 5,650 five years ago. Private rental evictions became the number one cause of homelessness for the first time in early 2012, and now represent nearly a third (30 per cent) of all homelessness cases in England.

More than nine million people now privately rent their homes in England, and almost one in three renting households are families. Shelter is warning that the situation is likely to get worse as a combination of sky-high rents, unstable short-term tenancies and a wave of welfare changes are leaving thousands of families struggling to find anywhere they can afford to live.

The government’s figures also reveal that the number of homeless families in temporary accommodation rose to 44,510 – the highest it has been for five years.

Campbell Robb, chief executive of Shelter, said: “Behind every one of these shocking statistics stands a person or a family who’s gone through the tragedy of losing their home. And what’s more worrying is that we know these figures are only the tip of the iceberg.

“The failure of successive governments to build enough affordable homes has left us with a housing market that’s totally out of control. As a result more and more families are finding themselves living in unstable rented homes, unable to put down roots and facing a monthly battle with sky-high housing costs.

“We speak to families every day who are struggling to cope with the cost of housing, often forced to cut back on essentials or even skip meals just to keep a roof over their children’s heads.

“With so many of us already on a financial knife-edge, all it takes is one thing like a sudden rent rise to tip a family into a spiral that ends in homelessness.

“Politicians have to give back hope to all those crying out for a stable home, by building the genuinely affordable homes that we desperately need.”

Wait – there’s more (according to Shelter’s blog).

While the overall number of households accepted as homeless has slightly dropped again this quarter, the number in B&B has increased to an 11 year high.

And the number of households placed in temporary accommodation in another council area is at the highest level since records began in 1998. And a quarter of temporary accommodation is now out of area.

What Shelter won’t tell you is that this is the intended result of government policies designed to turf people the Conservatives (and, one imagines, the Liberal Democrats) deem undesirable out of areas they consider to be desirable and force them to find somewhere else to live – if they can.

The Bedroom Tax, the Benefit Cap, low wages, high private rents and house prices all contribute to this, and are either Tory policies or phenomena the Tories and their friends have allowed to go unchecked.

Tories don’t care if these people end up starving on the street, as long as they can make a fat wad of cash out of the space they leave behind.

goldfinger - 05 Oct 2014 17:38 - 46850 of 81564

Theirs right and wrong, Ive reported the post below to MONEY AM MANAGEMENT....

Chris Carson - 05 Oct 2014 17:22 - 3903 of 3904

Fuck off PURPLE or whoever your calling yourself this week!!! Go and pick on some other disabled posters, your good at that. Your Credibility is well donald!! deal with it.

Chris Carson - 05 Oct 2014 17:43 - 46851 of 81564

The crescendo of support is sadly lacking PURPLE, you have been found out, deal with it.

doodlebug4 - 05 Oct 2014 17:44 - 46852 of 81564

Fred, I agree with quite a lot of your comments, but I cannot understand when you obviously feel so strongly about politics that you don't vote. Why?

Fred1new - 05 Oct 2014 17:50 - 46853 of 81564

DB4,

I see the problems with my own conclusions.

I also have a sneaking liking for:

"Yours is to reason why, but not to do or die!"

I have difficulty with beliefs! Which are often momentary.

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That it why I enjoy middle games more than endgames!

8-)

Chris Carson - 05 Oct 2014 17:53 - 46854 of 81564

Purple you back in the classroom, Sir, Sir hand up. Yorkshire WIMP!
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