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THE TALK TO YOURSELF THREAD. (NOWT)     

goldfinger - 09 Jun 2005 12:25

Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).

Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.

cheers GF.

Haystack - 07 Oct 2014 09:45 - 46938 of 81564

This the fourth poll in a row that has the Conservatives in the lead

Update - Conservatives lead at 2
by YouGov in Politics
Tue October 7, 2014 6 a.m. BST

Latest YouGov / The Sun results 6th Oct - Con 35%, Lab 33%, LD 8%, UKIP 13%;

goldfinger - 07 Oct 2014 09:50 - 46939 of 81564

Dodgy Dave done yet again for Lying about debt by the boss of the UK Statistics Authority, Sir Andrew Dilnot.

AND

Vince C proves he was lying to the country on the deficit.

Last weeks Tory Party congress was just one BIG LIE and the public have fallen for it.

Lets hope by the GE they have seen through this Tory Scum.

goldfinger - 07 Oct 2014 09:51 - 46940 of 81564

Hays 2% is not big enough to give the Tories an outright victory. They would again need Lib Dems, but I think this time Clegg would opt to go with Labour.

cynic - 07 Oct 2014 09:54 - 46941 of 81564

and i don't think any of you should pay any attention to these polls except perhaps to gauge a trend over several weeks

goldfinger - 07 Oct 2014 09:56 - 46942 of 81564

UK industrial production flat in August; still 9.6% below the pre-crisis peak http://www.theguardian.com/business/live/2014/oct/07/german-industrial-output-plunges-international-monetary-fund-growth-forecasts-business-live?view=desktop#block-5433a4a2e4b0cd82a095ed7c …

ExecLine - 07 Oct 2014 09:57 - 46943 of 81564

Certainly, support for the Tories and UKIP is strengthenenenening.

Certainly, support for the Lib Dems and Labour is weakenenenening.

goldfinger - 07 Oct 2014 10:02 - 46945 of 81564

EXEC the last thing the Tories want to see is support for UKIP strengthening.

Pollsters have said that if UKIP get 9% of the vote at the GE it will let labour into power.

goldfinger - 07 Oct 2014 10:03 - 46947 of 81564

LOL Hays Tory press again.

goldfinger - 07 Oct 2014 10:04 - 46948 of 81564

Lib/Dems in favour of mansion tax aswel. As are the public.

Haystack - 07 Oct 2014 10:05 - 46949 of 81564

From today

Labour grandees turn on Miliband over mansion tax

http://www.thetimes.co.uk/tto/news/politics/article4229092.ece

ExecLine - 07 Oct 2014 10:23 - 46951 of 81564

Mansion Tax is a daft tax in that it cannot be paid on an annual basis by people who are asset rich and cash poor. Albeit, that it might force such people into having to sell the property. Some of these property types would just stay empty, MHO, and in some cases this would create fresh problems as these bigger houses fall into ruin and decay becasue owners can't afford the taxes on them.

Property values are currently coming down. Mansion Tax doesn't seem to take that adequately into account.

Perhaps a form of Capital Gains Tax for own homes might fare better as it would be more common-sensical. The cash to pay it would be funded at exactly the best and right time to pay it from the profit on the sale.

Fred1new - 07 Oct 2014 10:26 - 46952 of 81564

The Mansion Tax will go down well with the voters outside London, who see the Tories more and more like London based self interested mobsters.

Even though the tory press are trying to fracture the Labour party a leadership, it is doubtful that they will be successful and probably backfire on the tories, who are far more fragmented in their policies and direction.

The Redwoods, the Cashs, the Clarkes, Carlesses the god knows what Camerons the Cruellas and of course their icon IDSs. are just on the surface.

Also, Aschroft and his ilk, swim below the surface.

The tory party is more represented nowadays by the Brookes (what did he think was possible from tory researchers) and see Cameron becoming more and more as an incompetent liar.

cynic - 07 Oct 2014 10:26 - 46953 of 81564

downside of that is that there would be a complete disincentive to sell, thus depressing the housing market from all angles

MaxK - 07 Oct 2014 10:29 - 46954 of 81564

What do you call a mansion these days in londonistan?

Fred1new - 07 Oct 2014 10:33 - 46955 of 81564

Possibly, (in the case of asset rich and cash poor) the Mansion tax could be attached to the property and paid at time of sale, or transfer of ownership!

But isn't it strange that the same degree of "sympathy", expressed to the above group, is not express for those effected by those in the "Bedroom Tax", which accounts for 30% of evictions in a small town!

goldfinger - 07 Oct 2014 10:39 - 46956 of 81564

NHS ‘at breaking point’ despite promises of increased spending
Healthcare faces £30bn deficit by 2020 and patients suffering, warns coalition of doctors, nurses and medical charities

The Guardian, Monday 6 October 2014

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Political promises of extra cash for the NHS are insufficient to address a funding crisis that is putting at risk the founding principles of the health service, an influential coalition of doctors, nurses and medical charities has warned.

The Conservatives, Labour and Liberal Democrats have all made protecting health funding a priority in their party conference pitches to voters as the issue takes centre stage ahead of May’s general election.

But, in an open letter to the leaders of all three parties published by the Independent, leading organisations said “the longest, and most damaging budget squeeze” in NHS history had left it at “breaking point”, with patients increasingly feeling the effects.

Health spending has been protected from the austerity cuts imposed across most of the rest of Whitehall but had not risen sufficiently to prevent the hospitals and surgeries “buckling under the twin crises of rising demand and flatlining budgets”, they wrote.

The letter was signed by the heads of the British Medical Association, the Royal College of Nursing, the Royal College of GPs and four other royal colleges, the Alzheimer’s Society, the Anthony Nolan Trust, the MS Society, the Royal National Institute of Blind People, the Teenage Cancer Trust, the Family Doctor Association and the Faculty of Public Health.

They cautioned: “Savings have been made, and despite the best efforts of nurses, doctors and other staff, patients have not been insulated from these cuts. Too many staff feel undervalued and demoralised when all they want is to be able to care for patients.

“A shortage of GPs means that patients are struggling to get an appointment to see their doctor. Pressures on maternity services mean that many women are not getting the high quality care they deserve.”

Accident and emergency unit targets were being missed – in some cases for an entire year – patients faced “unacceptable” waits for cancer diagnoses, and patients requiring emergency mental health support were being moved to hospitals hundreds of miles away from home.

Social care shortfalls meant dementia sufferers “have been cut adrift, reliant on unpaid and unsupported carers to live from day to day” and problems were being stored up for the future by a failure to invest properly in children and young people’s physical and mental health, they suggested.

“The NHS and our social care services are at breaking point and things cannot go on like this. An NHS deficit of £30bn is predicted by 2020 – a funding black hole that must be filled.

“While we welcome the fact that the NHS has risen to the top of the political agenda, and some new spending commitments have been made, we need a comprehensive, fully costed, long-term spending plan if an NHS true to its founding principles of universal healthcare, provided according to need not ability to pay, is secured for future generations.

“It must also take into account the need for vital social care. This will also require a guarantee that the NHS will be protected from another top-down reorganisation which is not in the best interests of patients, and distracts from the severe, long-term funding pressures facing the health service.

“The NHS, social services, health and care professionals and above all, the British people, deserve no less.”

VICTIM - 07 Oct 2014 10:41 - 46957 of 81564

Makes you want to Immigrate somewhere don't it.
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