Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).

Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.

cheers GF.

Live counter: Watch how much NHS money is going into private hands
Oct 07, 2014 13:44 By Federica Cocco

And how much is being pocketed by Conservative supporters.

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For every £1 of NHS contracts sold, 15p has been contracted to Tory supporters.

This is how much Conservative donors have received in public NHS money since you opened this page.

£61.90

Last year private companies received £6.3bn of public money
Department of Health accounts show that non-NHS bodies were paid £6.3bn by the National Health Service last year on contracts ranging from general supplies to clinical services.

This is how much public money these private firms have received since you opened this page.

£535.60

How it started
Since the Health and Social Care Act was passed in 2012, NHS services have been gradually outsourced.

As part of the NHS reform, the Coalition government instructed local NHS bodies to license commercial companies - known as AQPs or "any qualified provider" - to provide care to patients across thirty-nine treatment areas.

GPs, dentists and pharmacists were already run by private businesses on behalf of the health service. But the new services range from abortion services to child and adult mental health services.

Over £13bn worth of contracts advertised
Overall £13.5bn worth of deals to run and manage NHS service have been advertised since the Coalition Government removed restrictions on who can bid for NHS contracts.

The NHS Support Federation, a campaigning group. analysed the contract and award notices advertised on the two main official contract websites: TED and Supply2Health. Thy identified 492 adverts concerning contracts to supply clinically related services. These are contracts that have appeared since the government regulations (section 75) covering the procurement of health care came into effect.

£13.5bn

The total value of the contracts in this sample was £13,533,761,213.

This may seem small in comparison to the NHS' £109bn yearly budget.

But NHS privatisation has been so rampant that 68% of contracts for NHS services in England between April 2013 and April 2014 were won by private firms, according to data from the European public procurement website.

Tory donors have pocketed at least £1.5bn in the last two years

According to research from Unite the Union health firms with links to Conservative party donors have been awarded around £1.5billion in NHS contracts.

Care UK was awarded £660m in NHS contracts. Its former chairman Lord Nash and wife Caroline have gifted £247,250 to Conservative MPs like Andrew Lansley, Nick Herbert, David Ruffley, and Chris Skidmore.
Circle Health has won £121m of work from the NHS. People involved with the firms that own its parent company Circle Holdings PLC have donated a total of £1.7million to the Tories, including Mark Simmonds, Baron Higgins of Worthing, Nicholas Soames, Jacob Rees-Mogg, Kwasi Kwarteng, and Boris Johnson's brother Jo Johnson.
Private firm Serco has won £432 million in NHS contracts. One of its shareholders is FIL ­Investments International, which has donated £1.1million to Tory party coffers, specifically Lord Glendonbrook and Baroness James of Holland Park.


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Another thing which interest me, is how many doctors are leaving the Country annually to escape paying tuition fees and how many are preparing to so in the future:


From what I would suppose to be Manuel and Hays favourite paper.

The doctors' exodus: They cost us £610,000 to train - but 3,000 a year are leaving us for a life in the sun in Australia and New Zealand
Nearly 3,000 doctors a year apply for a certificate to work overseas
Australia and New Zealand preferred destinations as work is easier there
Number of GPs arriving from Greece, Italy and Romania has also increased
By SOPHIE BORLAND FOR THE DAILY MAIL
PUBLISHED: 23:43, 7 October 2014 | UPDATED: 07:59, 8 October 2014

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Increasing numbers of doctors are deserting the NHS for a better life in Australia and New Zealand, figures reveal.
The exodus of doctors – who cost the taxpayer up to £610,000 to train – is forcing the NHS to import staff from southern and eastern Europe.
According to a major report from the General Medical Council, the number applying for certificates to work abroad has risen by a fifth since 2008, to nearly 3,000 a year.
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What I think amusing is Cameron and Osborne thought up the Fixed Term parliament to protect their own backsides and bacon

Another of the "smart" ideas is coming back to haunt them and they can't do an U-turn on it.


What a bunch!!!!!

Even Manuel and Haze would fit in comfortably at their table.

A simpler version of the rules for dissolution of parliament!

Triggering an election other than at five year intervals

The Fixed-term Parliaments Act 2011 provides for general elections to be held on the first Thursday in May every five years. There are two provisions that trigger an election other than at five year intervals.

A motion of no confidence is passed in Her Majesty's Government by a simple majority and 14 days elapses without the House passing a confidence motion in any new Government formed
A motion for a general election is agreed by two thirds of the total number of seats in the Commons including vacant seats (currently 434 out of 650)

Fred I think the Mansion Tax should be lowered to £1,750,000 to nab the marginals in and around Manuels London location and similar.

Lets face it if you believe in private education and indulge in it you can spare a few bob for the NHS and the poor.

i don't live in london :-)

Im not conversing with you, your on my filter list.

Edited, around Manuels greater london and outlying locations.

so it would seem, though have no idea why :-)
btw, do you know what's scared the markets so badly?

Just been reading in the evening paper that, that snooty git Melvyn Bragg is complaining about the mansion tax, and says labour will lose the Hampstead seat, because of it.

Guess where he lives, Hampstead, what a selfish little weazel and hes a labour donor.

My god it will only be 1 or 2 seats sacrifised for the good of the National Health Service.

They should move abroad with all the pop stars and other so called B Grade celebrities.

FEAR OF FEAR.

By Christopher Hope, Steven Swinford, and Ben Riley-Smith
6:00AM BST 09 Oct 2014
Members of Labour's ruling body expected to challenge Ed Miliband over leadership drift at key meeting on November 4

Labour MPs are calling for Ed Miliband to resign if the party loses a key northern seat to Ukip in Thursday's by-election as he faces a new revolt from his party's policy makers.

Mr Miliband is facing mounting pressure over his leadership amid concerns that Ukip is making significant inroads into labour's Heywood and Middleton seat in Greater Manchester.

At the last election Ukip finished a distant fourth, but polls on Wednesday suggested that the Nigel Farage's party has now taken 35 per cent of the Labour vote.

It came as members of labour's ruling National Executive Committee told The Telegraph that Ed Miliband is afflicted with the "curse of Gordon Brown" while his shadow cabinet are obsessed with their own leadership prospects.

One of the members, speaking on condition of anonymity, said: “He is being seen as being afflicted with the curse of Gordon which is that when people met Gordon they liked him. But Ed Miliband can’t meet eight million people between now and May.”

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Labour is expected to win back the seat of Heywood and Middleton on Thursday, where a by-election is being held after the death of Labour MP Jim Dobbin.

The party is expected to hold onto the seat, but is likely to see its majority slashed after a major challenge by Ukip.

One Labour MP said: "If we lose the seat it would be a resigning issue, it would show that everything Ed hass been doing for the last three years is wrong.

"Even if we hold the seat, it should set alarm bells ringing. The party needs to address the real concerns of voters about immigration and welfare reform."

Members of the party’s ruling National Executive Committee will meet in four weeks' time when they are expected to confront Mr Miliband about the growing frustration in the party’s grass roots about his leadership.

The overnight meeting of the 33-strong NEC on Nov 4 is the most important for years because it sets the party’s strategy for the next year.

The NEC is the governing body of the Labour Party which oversees the overall direction of the party and its policy-making process.

The last comparable meeting of the NEC was in 2009 which discussed and laid out Labour’s plans to fight the 2010 general election.

Members of the NEC, speaking on condition have anonymity, said there was increasing concern about Mr Miliband’s leadership.

One said: “People will want to know what the strategy is for the general election.

“Party headquarters is totally dysfunctional – nobody knows who is running what. There seems to be four or five different people in charge of different things.”

Mr Miliband was also not being ably assisted by members of his shadow Cabinet who seemed to be jockeying for the leadership after he quits.

The source said: “The truth about is that we are in the trenches, and I look to my left and to my right and I don’t see anybody there."

Shadow cabinet ministers like Andy Burnham (health), and Chuka Umunna (business), appeared to have "disappeared" and were more concerned about how their positions if Mr Miliband lost the election and had to resign.

The source said: “They are looking beyond the general election because they don’t think we are going to be in a position to win and they are jockeying for where they can land afterwards.”

Mr Miliband’s grip on the party was “undermined” when he forgot to mention the economy or immigration – two major issues for candidates on the doorstep - in his headline conference speech.

Mr Miliband's stock rose when he discussed the National Health Service, but the source said, "no one will talk to us about the NHS if we don’t give a ---- about immigration and the economy".

Another member of the NEC said that party members were “still smarting” about Mr Miliband’s speech last month.

The source said: “There are all still smarting about the conference speech – they think it was awful. There is criticism of his office - his office seems to be totally dysfunctional. He really ought to use the opportunity for a big reshuffle.”

It has emerged that the first signs of discontent on the NEC emerged shortly after Mr Miliband’s conference speech when they gathered for their annual post-address meeting with the Labour leader.

Members expressed their anger at Mr Miliband for a decision by Ed Balls, the shadow chancellor, to announce a two-year freeze on child benefit, complaining they were not consulted and had been caught by surprise.

A further member said Mr Miliband made a "mistake" in giving his conference speech without notes and expressed frustration that he forgot to mention immigration and the economy - a lapse in memory which dominated subsequent media coverage.

Ann Black, a member of the NEC, also complained that Ed Balls' plan to cap child benefit at one per cent for two years "came out of the blue".

She wrote on a blog: "This was never discussed in the national policy forum, and the NEC, like everyone else, heard it first on the morning news. Most think that it is a bad idea: we should be putting children first."

Telegraph

Cynic thats all you getting your rationed. You colluded with the two thugs at the weekend to trash the chart thread.

Anyway you can now run it.

Im done with it.

No point in putting in 3 hours per night 6 days per week 51 weeks per year, over 13 years to have it trashed by 2 intoxicated idiots.

If we had board moderators that wouldnt have happened and they wouldnt be posting now.

All we get is Ian saying its a free board so anyone can move about where they want, ohh but if its a premium board you cant wreck a thread I see, yes I can see the logic in that, of course I do.

GF.

Manuel location is Thames Valley.

He drinks Thames Embankment!

I think hand outs promised by Cameron during the floods have not materialised.

I think Cameron really is a secondhand spiv!

Yet another promise from Manuel's idol not fulfilled !

Yep 'MONEY IS NO OBJECT'.........shame he doesnt see it that way for those poor sods who live further north kicked out of there homes because of the Bedroom Tax.

sticky old bean, i think your recollection and perception is all wrong
anyway, shame if you have taken umbrage especially for no real good reason
certainly a great pity if you abandon your "chart" thread as a great many find it very interesting and useful - and even myself quite often

don't be such a miserable old fart and stop sulking :-))

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4:24 PM - 9 Oct 2014

Gf is only sulking because he didn't get the "two thugs" thrown off this bulletin board. Since I starting posting on this board about two years ago gf has referred to me as a "pleb", " scum" and now a "thug" - forgive if thinking it is gf and not me who should be thrown off this bulletin board.

Goldfinger

Just a word of appreciation about your posts on the chart thread and acknowledge the work you obviously put in to provide them.

There are loads of guys on here would greatly appreciate you changing your mind and continuing to post on it.

Manuel,

I am sure he could find a few good reasons to do so.

I will help him to.

More seriously I thought the charts thread very helpful and informative and I would like him to continue and ignore the "S Bs" (silly boys).

DB4.

Although, I would not choose the proscribe words about you, I am sympathetic with him using the descriptive words in post addressed to you on many occasions.