goldfinger
- 09 Jun 2005 12:25
Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).
Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.
cheers GF.
Fred1new
- 09 Oct 2014 16:49
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A simpler version of the rules for dissolution of parliament!
Triggering an election other than at five year intervals
The Fixed-term Parliaments Act 2011 provides for general elections to be held on the first Thursday in May every five years. There are two provisions that trigger an election other than at five year intervals.
A motion of no confidence is passed in Her Majesty's Government by a simple majority and 14 days elapses without the House passing a confidence motion in any new Government formed
A motion for a general election is agreed by two thirds of the total number of seats in the Commons including vacant seats (currently 434 out of 650)
goldfinger
- 09 Oct 2014 17:19
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Fred I think the Mansion Tax should be lowered to £1,750,000 to nab the marginals in and around Manuels London location and similar.
Lets face it if you believe in private education and indulge in it you can spare a few bob for the NHS and the poor.
cynic
- 09 Oct 2014 17:23
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i don't live in london :-)
goldfinger
- 09 Oct 2014 17:28
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Im not conversing with you, your on my filter list.
goldfinger
- 09 Oct 2014 17:29
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Edited, around Manuels greater london and outlying locations.
cynic
- 09 Oct 2014 17:30
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so it would seem, though have no idea why :-)
btw, do you know what's scared the markets so badly?
goldfinger
- 09 Oct 2014 17:38
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Just been reading in the evening paper that, that snooty git Melvyn Bragg is complaining about the mansion tax, and says labour will lose the Hampstead seat, because of it.
Guess where he lives, Hampstead, what a selfish little weazel and hes a labour donor.
My god it will only be 1 or 2 seats sacrifised for the good of the National Health Service.
They should move abroad with all the pop stars and other so called B Grade celebrities.
goldfinger
- 09 Oct 2014 17:39
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FEAR OF FEAR.
doodlebug4
- 09 Oct 2014 17:45
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By Christopher Hope, Steven Swinford, and Ben Riley-Smith
6:00AM BST 09 Oct 2014
Members of Labour's ruling body expected to challenge Ed Miliband over leadership drift at key meeting on November 4
Labour MPs are calling for Ed Miliband to resign if the party loses a key northern seat to Ukip in Thursday's by-election as he faces a new revolt from his party's policy makers.
Mr Miliband is facing mounting pressure over his leadership amid concerns that Ukip is making significant inroads into labour's Heywood and Middleton seat in Greater Manchester.
At the last election Ukip finished a distant fourth, but polls on Wednesday suggested that the Nigel Farage's party has now taken 35 per cent of the Labour vote.
It came as members of labour's ruling National Executive Committee told The Telegraph that Ed Miliband is afflicted with the "curse of Gordon Brown" while his shadow cabinet are obsessed with their own leadership prospects.
One of the members, speaking on condition of anonymity, said: “He is being seen as being afflicted with the curse of Gordon which is that when people met Gordon they liked him. But Ed Miliband can’t meet eight million people between now and May.”
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Labour is expected to win back the seat of Heywood and Middleton on Thursday, where a by-election is being held after the death of Labour MP Jim Dobbin.
The party is expected to hold onto the seat, but is likely to see its majority slashed after a major challenge by Ukip.
One Labour MP said: "If we lose the seat it would be a resigning issue, it would show that everything Ed hass been doing for the last three years is wrong.
"Even if we hold the seat, it should set alarm bells ringing. The party needs to address the real concerns of voters about immigration and welfare reform."
Members of the party’s ruling National Executive Committee will meet in four weeks' time when they are expected to confront Mr Miliband about the growing frustration in the party’s grass roots about his leadership.
The overnight meeting of the 33-strong NEC on Nov 4 is the most important for years because it sets the party’s strategy for the next year.
The NEC is the governing body of the Labour Party which oversees the overall direction of the party and its policy-making process.
The last comparable meeting of the NEC was in 2009 which discussed and laid out Labour’s plans to fight the 2010 general election.
Members of the NEC, speaking on condition have anonymity, said there was increasing concern about Mr Miliband’s leadership.
One said: “People will want to know what the strategy is for the general election.
“Party headquarters is totally dysfunctional – nobody knows who is running what. There seems to be four or five different people in charge of different things.”
Mr Miliband was also not being ably assisted by members of his shadow Cabinet who seemed to be jockeying for the leadership after he quits.
The source said: “The truth about is that we are in the trenches, and I look to my left and to my right and I don’t see anybody there."
Shadow cabinet ministers like Andy Burnham (health), and Chuka Umunna (business), appeared to have "disappeared" and were more concerned about how their positions if Mr Miliband lost the election and had to resign.
The source said: “They are looking beyond the general election because they don’t think we are going to be in a position to win and they are jockeying for where they can land afterwards.”
Mr Miliband’s grip on the party was “undermined” when he forgot to mention the economy or immigration – two major issues for candidates on the doorstep - in his headline conference speech.
Mr Miliband's stock rose when he discussed the National Health Service, but the source said, "no one will talk to us about the NHS if we don’t give a ---- about immigration and the economy".
Another member of the NEC said that party members were “still smarting” about Mr Miliband’s speech last month.
The source said: “There are all still smarting about the conference speech – they think it was awful. There is criticism of his office - his office seems to be totally dysfunctional. He really ought to use the opportunity for a big reshuffle.”
It has emerged that the first signs of discontent on the NEC emerged shortly after Mr Miliband’s conference speech when they gathered for their annual post-address meeting with the Labour leader.
Members expressed their anger at Mr Miliband for a decision by Ed Balls, the shadow chancellor, to announce a two-year freeze on child benefit, complaining they were not consulted and had been caught by surprise.
A further member said Mr Miliband made a "mistake" in giving his conference speech without notes and expressed frustration that he forgot to mention immigration and the economy - a lapse in memory which dominated subsequent media coverage.
Ann Black, a member of the NEC, also complained that Ed Balls' plan to cap child benefit at one per cent for two years "came out of the blue".
She wrote on a blog: "This was never discussed in the national policy forum, and the NEC, like everyone else, heard it first on the morning news. Most think that it is a bad idea: we should be putting children first."
Telegraph
goldfinger
- 09 Oct 2014 17:49
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Cynic thats all you getting your rationed. You colluded with the two thugs at the weekend to trash the chart thread.
Anyway you can now run it.
Im done with it.
No point in putting in 3 hours per night 6 days per week 51 weeks per year, over 13 years to have it trashed by 2 intoxicated idiots.
If we had board moderators that wouldnt have happened and they wouldnt be posting now.
All we get is Ian saying its a free board so anyone can move about where they want, ohh but if its a premium board you cant wreck a thread I see, yes I can see the logic in that, of course I do.
Fred1new
- 09 Oct 2014 17:50
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GF.
Manuel location is Thames Valley.
He drinks Thames Embankment!
I think hand outs promised by Cameron during the floods have not materialised.
I think Cameron really is a secondhand spiv!
Yet another promise from Manuel's idol not fulfilled !
goldfinger
- 09 Oct 2014 17:54
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Yep 'MONEY IS NO OBJECT'.........shame he doesnt see it that way for those poor sods who live further north kicked out of there homes because of the Bedroom Tax.
cynic
- 09 Oct 2014 18:15
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sticky old bean, i think your recollection and perception is all wrong
anyway, shame if you have taken umbrage especially for no real good reason
certainly a great pity if you abandon your "chart" thread as a great many find it very interesting and useful - and even myself quite often
don't be such a miserable old fart and stop sulking :-))
MaxK
- 09 Oct 2014 18:27
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Lord Ashcroft ✔ @LordAshcroft
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It is not difficult to understand why the good people of Clacton intend to vote @DouglasCarswell as their MP.
4:24 PM - 9 Oct 2014
doodlebug4
- 09 Oct 2014 18:39
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Gf is only sulking because he didn't get the "two thugs" thrown off this bulletin board. Since I starting posting on this board about two years ago gf has referred to me as a "pleb", " scum" and now a "thug" - forgive if thinking it is gf and not me who should be thrown off this bulletin board.
Fred1new
- 09 Oct 2014 19:23
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Manuel,
I am sure he could find a few good reasons to do so.
I will help him to.
More seriously I thought the charts thread very helpful and informative and I would like him to continue and ignore the "S Bs" (silly boys).
DB4.
Although, I would not choose the proscribe words about you, I am sympathetic with him using the descriptive words in post addressed to you on many occasions.
cynic
- 09 Oct 2014 19:48
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thank you fred for your conciliatory words ...... sometimes we all get wound up and grumpy, and usually for rather silly reasons
doodlebug4
- 09 Oct 2014 20:02
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I don't mind harmless banter, but I object to nasty insults. Gf can't seem to understand the difference and I'm not prepared to keep massaging his inflated ego by continually asking him to continue posting on the chart thread. I agree with Chris Carson's view about that, although I might choose different language to express my sentiments.
I didn't post any comments on the chart thread at the weekend.
doodlebug4
- 09 Oct 2014 20:09
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Fred I can't believe that you are so gullible to think that a "Mansion Tax" would be used to fund the NHS.!