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Gordon Brown is ruining UK economy (GORD)     

hlyeo98 - 16 Apr 2008 19:41

Brown's spend, spend, spend during his Chancellor's days has brought us into the current economy we are facing today. His appeal at a Downing Street meeting for the lenders to pass on cuts appeared to fall on deaf ears with HBOS, which owns the Halifax, increasing its rate on some mortgages from 6.09 to 6.59 per cent. Borrowers taking out this type of deal will now pay 46 more a month. On a two-year tracker, the rate will increase from 1.49 points above base rate to 1.99 points, giving a current rate of 6.99 per cent.

Other lenders are expected to follow Halifaxs lead.

If the Government wants the banks to lower mortgage rates to home owners - why not just offer them through Northern Rock? Everyone would rush to the Rock to get the loans forcing banks to match the rates or lose the business? Or maybe the government would then run into bigger credit crunch?


Fred1new - 09 Jun 2009 16:25 - 473 of 518

I have to admit I did admire Humphrey and a few of the others mentioned.
I am not certain that 37 Victoria crosses has much to do with intelligence, but some of the others mentioned certainly have had intellectual ability.

But would have expected a far broader and lengthy a list for more than 27,000 a year. (ie. without any extras.)

I suppose the present and long may it last "shadow cabinet" could be call the Etonian second team or perhaps the Burlington Club seconds.

Even Haystack may wish there is a God if this shadow, or shallow lot ever got into power.






















8-)


halifax - 09 Jun 2009 16:41 - 474 of 518

It amazes us that in a so called democracy respect canot be given to the vast majority that recently voted against a labour government which had only 15% of the total vote. Ostriches and sand spring to mind.

Haystack - 09 Jun 2009 17:06 - 475 of 518

OK Fred. The list above was a random selection

You want a proper list. :-

Prime Ministers

Eighteen Old Etonians have been Prime Minister of Great Britain and one has been Prime Minister of Northern Ireland. One is currently Prime Minister of Thailand.

In chronological order of office:

Walpole, Sir Robert, KG, 1st Earl of Orford (16761745) PM 17211742
Pitt, William, 1st Earl of Chatham (17081778) PM 17561757, 17571761 and 17661768
Bute, John Stuart, 3rd Earl of (17131792) PM 17621763
Grenville, George (17121770) PM 17631765
North, Frederick, 8th Baron (17321792) PM 17701782
Grenville, William, 1st Baron (17591834) PM 18061807
Canning, George (17701827) PM 1827
Wellington, Arthur Wellesley, 1st Duke of (17691852) PM 18281830 and 1834
Grey, Charles, 2nd Earl (17641845) PM 18301834
Melbourne, William Lamb, 2nd Viscount (17791848) PM 1834 and 18351841
Derby, Edward Stanley, 14th Earl of (17991869) PM 1852, 18581859 and 18661868
Gladstone, William Ewart (18091898) PM 18681874, 18801885, 1886 and 18921894
Salisbury, Robert Cecil, 3rd Marquess of (18301903) PM 18851886, 18861892 and 18951902
Rosebery, Archibald Primrose, 5th Earl of (18471929) PM 18941895
Balfour, Arthur (18481930) PM 19021905, later 1st Earl of Balfour
Eden, Sir Anthony (18971977) PM 19551957, later 1st Earl of Avon
Macmillan, Harold (18941986) PM 19571963, later 1st Earl of Stockton
Douglas-Home, Sir Alec (19031995) PM 19631964, formerly 14th Earl of Home, later Baron Home of the Hirsel

Chichester-Clark, James (19232002) PM of Northern Ireland 19691971, later Baron Moyola

Vejjajiva, Abhisit [Mark] (1964 ) PM of Thailand

Other Politicians, Diplomats & Civil Servants

Acland, Sir Antony (1930 )
Aitken, Jonathan (1942 )
Armstrong, Robert, Baron Armstrong of Ilminster (1927 )
Ascham, Anthony (d. 1650)
Bayne, Sir Nicholas (1937 )
Bolingbroke, Henry St John, 1st Viscount (16781751)
Boyle, Edward, Baron Boyle of Handsworth (19231981)
Bridges, Edward, 1st Baron (18921969)
Cadogan, Sir Alexander (18841968)
Cameron, David (1966 )
Canning, Stratford, 1st Viscount (17861880)
Carrington, Peter Carrington, 6th Baron (1919 )
Chandos, Oliver Lyttelton, 1st Viscount (18931972)
Churchill, Lord Randolph (18491894)
Cobham, Charles Lyttelton, 10th Viscount (19091977)
Cooper, Alfred Duff, 1st Viscount Norwich (18901954)
Cornwallis, Charles, 1st Marquess (17381805)
Curzon, George Nathaniel, 1st Marquess of (18591925)
Dalton, Hugh, Baron Dalton (18871962)
Dalyell, Tam (1932 )
Dashwood, Sir Francis (17081781)
Durham, John Lambton, 1st Earl of (17921840)
Esher, Reginald Brett, 2nd Viscount (18521930)
Essex, Robert Devereux, 3rd Earl of (15911646)
Fox, Charles James (17491806)
Gordon, Lord George (17511793)
Gore-Booth, Paul, Baron Gore-Booth (19091984)
Grimond, Jo, Baron Grimond (19131993)
Halifax, Edward Wood, 1st Earl of (18811959)
Heathcoat-Amory, David (1949 )
Hogg, Douglas (1945 )
Hurd, Douglas, Baron Hurd of Westwell (1930 )
Johnson, Boris (1964 )
Lansdowne, Henry Petty-Fitzmaurice, 5th Marquess of (18451927)
Letwin, Oliver (1956 )
Lloyd, George, 1st Baron Lloyd (18791941)
Lyttelton, Hon. Alfred (18571913)
Millington-Drake, Sir Eugen (18891972)
Neave, Airey (19161979)
Salisbury, Robert Cecil, 7th Marquess of (1946 )
Sandwich, John Montagu, 4th Earl of (17181792)
Spring-Rice, Sir Cecil (18591918)
Strachey, (Evelyn) John (19011963)
Thorpe, Jeremy (1929 )
Tooke, John (17361812)
Vansittart, Robert, 1st Baron (18811957)
Waldegrave, William (1946 )
Young, Sir George, Bt (1941 )

The Church, Martyrs and Saints

Aufield, Thomas (15521585): Catholic martyr. Tried by William Fleetwood (also an OE). Hanged at Tyburn. Beatified 1915
Barrington, Shute (17341826): Bishop of Durham 17911826
Chadwick, Henry (1920 ): Regius Professor of Divinity, Cambridge 19791983, Dean of Christ Church 19691979 and Master of Peterhouse 19871993
Collins, Anthony (16761729): Deist
Cornwallis, Frederick (17131783): Archbishop of Canterbury 17681783
Frith, John (15031533): Martyr
Glover, Robert (d. 1555): Martyr
Habgood, John, Baron Habgood (1927 ): Archbishop of York 19831995
Hullier, John (d. 1555): Martyr
Inge, William (18601954): Dean of St Pauls 19111934
Knox, Ronald (18881957): RC priest and translator of the Bible
More, Henry (16141687): Theologian and philosopher
Patteson, Coleridge (18271871): Bishop of Melanesia 18611871; Martyr
Pearson, John (16131686): Theologian, Bishop of Chester 16731686
Pusey, Edward (18001882): Theologian
Ryle, John (18161900): First Anglican Bishop of Liverpool 1880
Saunders, Laurence (d. 1555): Martyr
Selwyn, George Augustus (18091878): Bishop of New Zealand 18411867, of Lichfield 18681878
Sherlock, Thomas (16781761): Bishop of Salisbury 17341748, of London 17481761
Sherwin, Ralph (c. 15501581): Martyr and saint. Hanged at Tyburn for treason. Beatified 1886. Canonised 1970
Simeon, Charles (17591836): Vicar of Holy Trinity Cambridge and preacher
Studd, Charles (18621931): Missionary in China 18851895
Sumner, Charles (17901874): Bishop of Winchester 18271874
Sumner, John (17801862): Archbishop of Canterbury 18481862

Members of Royal Families

Alexander of Yugoslavia, HRH Prince (1924 )
Athlone, Alexander, 1st Earl of (18741957)
Birabongse of Siam, HH Prince (19131988)
Birendra of Nepal, HM King (19452001)
Brooke, Anthony Walter Dayrell, formerly HH the Rajah Muda of Sarawak (1912 )
Chalermbol of Thailand, HRH Prince (19151991)
Connaught, HRH Prince Arthur of (18831938)
Dipendra of Nepal, HM King (19712001)
Gloucester, HRH Prince Henry, Duke of (19001974)
Gloucester, HRH Prince Richard, Duke of (1944 )
Gloucester, HRH Prince William of (19411972)
Jodhpur, Gaj Singh, Maharajah of (1948 )
Kent, HRH Prince Edward, Duke of (1935 )
Kent, HRH Prince Michael of (1942 )
Lpold III of the Belgians, HM King (19011983)
Nicholas of Romania, HRH Prince, later HRH Prince Nicholas of Hohenzollern (19031978)
Nirajan of Nepal, HRH Prince (19792001)
Prajadhipok of Siam, HM King (18931941)
al-Sabah, HH Sheikh Mohammed al-Moubarak (1971 )
Singh, HH Prince Frederick Duleep (18681926)
Singh of Kapurthala, HH Prince Sarabjit (190276)
Singh, HH Prince Victor Duleep (18661918)
Wales, HRH Prince Harry of (1984 )
Wales, HRH Prince William of (1982 )
Zara Yacob of Ethiopia, HIH Prince (1953 )

The Law

Bathurst, Henry, 2nd Earl (17141794): Lord Chancellor 17711778
Camden, Charles Pratt, 1st Earl (17141794): Lord Chancellor 17661770
Coleridge, John, 1st Baron (18201894): Chief Justice of Common Pleas 18731880, of Queens Bench 18801894
Cowell, John (15541611): Jurist, Regius Professor of Civil Law at Cambridge 15941611
Denman, Thomas, 1st Baron (17991854): Chief Justice of Kings Bench 18321850
Goff of Chieveley, Robert, Baron (1926 ): Law Lord
Hailsham, Douglas Hogg, 1st Viscount (18721950): Attorney-General 19221924, 19241928, Lord Chancellor 19281929, 19351938
Hailsham of St Marylebone, Quintin Hogg, Baron (19072001): Lord Chancellor 19701974, 19791987
Lloyd of Berwick, Anthony, Baron (1929 ): Law Lord
Maitland, Professor Frederic (18501906): Jurist
Mansfield, Sir James (17331821): Lord Chief Justice, Court of Common Pleas 18041814
Pollock, Sir Frederick, 3rd Bt. (18451937): Jurist
Talbot, Charles, 1st Baron (16851737): Lord Chancellor 17331737

The Armed Services

Victoria Crosses
37 Old Etonians have won the Victoria Cross.
Dates are those of the action or battle (in chronological order)

Crimean War
Loyd-Lindsay, Brevet-Major Robert, later 1st Baron Wantage (18321901) 1854 Alma and Inkerman
Goodlake, Brevet-Major Gerald (18321890) 1854 Windmill Ravine
Percy, Colonel Lord Henry (18171877) 1854 Inkerman
Russell, Brevet-Major Sir Charles, 3rd Bt. (18261883) 1854 Inkerman

Indian Mutiny
Roberts, Lieutenant Frederick, later Field Marshal the 1st Earl Roberts (18321914) 1858 Khudaganj
Heneage, Captain Clement Walker (18311901) 1858 Gwalior
Fraser, Major Charles, later Sir Charles (18291895) 1858 River Raptee

India
Fosbery, Lieutenant George (18321907) 1863 Umbeyla

Zulu War
Buller, Brevet Lieutenant-Colonel Redvers, later General Sir Redvers (18391908) 1879 Inhlobana
Beresford, Captain Lord William (18471900) 1879 Ulundi

Egypt and Sudan
Edwards, Lieutenant William (18551912) 1882 Tel-el-Kebir
Wilson, Captain Arthur, RN, later Admiral of the Fleet Sir Arthur, 3rd Bt. (1842-1921) 1884 El Teb

Malakand Field Force
Fincastle, Lieutenant Alexander Murray, Viscount, later the 8th Earl of Dunmore (18711962) 1897 Tirah and Nawah Kili

Sudan
Hore-Ruthven, Captain the Hon. Alexander, later the 1st Earl of Gowrie (18721955) 1898 Gedaref

South African (Boer) War
FitzClarence, Captain Charles (18651914) 1898 Mafeking
Roberts, Lieutenant the Hon. Frederick (18721899) 1899 (posthumous award) Colenso

Somaliland
Gough, Brevet-Major John (18711915) 1903 Daratoleh

First World War
Grenfell, Captain Francis (18801915) 1914 Audregnies
Boyd-Rochfort, 2nd Lieutenant George (18801940) 1915 La Bass
Hansen, Captain Percy (18901951) 1915 Hill 10, Gallipoli
Batten-Pooll, Lieutenant Arthur (18911971) 1916 Calonne, France
Congreve, Brevet-Major William (18911916) 1916 (posthumous award) 1st Battle of the Somme
Campbell, Lieutenant-Colonel John (18761944) 1916 Ginchy, France
Graham, Lieutenant Reginald, later Sir Reginald, 3rd Bt. 1917 Istabulat, Mesopotamia
Dunville, 2nd Lieutenant John (18961917) 1917 (posthumous award) St Quentin, France
Evans, Lieutenant-Colonel Lewis (18811962) 1917 Zonnebeke, Belgium
Borton, Lieutenant-Colonel Arthur (18831933) 1917 Sheria, Palestine
Elliott-Cooper, Temp. Lieutenant-Colonel Neville (18891918) 1917 La Vacquerie
Gribble, Temp. Captain Julian Royds (18971918) 1918 Beaumetz
Drummond, Lieutenant Geoffrey, RNVR (18861941) 1918 Ostend

North-West Frontier
Meynell, Captain Godfrey (19041935) 1935 (posthumous award) Point 4080

Second World War
Furness, Lieutenant the Hon. Christopher (19121940) 1940 (posthumous award) Arras, France
Keyes, Temp. Lieutenant-Colonel Geoffrey (19171941) 1941 (posthumous award) Libya
Lyell, Temp. Captain Charles Napier, 2nd Baron (19131943) 1943 (posthumous award) Tunisia
Sidney, Temp. Major William, later 1st Viscount De LIsle (19091991) 1944 Anzio, Italy
Jamieson, Major David (19202001) 1944 River Orne, Normandy

Falklands War
Jones, Colonel H (19401982) 1982 (posthumous award) Goose Green

George CrossesClose, Squadron Leader G. C. N., RAF 1940
Hay, Cadet D.G.M. (later 12th Marquess of Tweeddale), RNR after 1941
Tollemache, Squadron Leader A. H. H., R.Aux.A.F. 1940
[Branch, Flying Officer G. R., RAF won the Empire Gallantry Medal in 1938, but did not convert it to a GC]

World War I5,619 OEs served in the Armed Forces (Royal Navy and Royal Marines 163; Army 5,320; Royal Air Force 136).
1,157 died.

Awards
Victoria Cross: 13
Distinguished Service Order: 548 (incl. DSO and Bar 44, DSO and 2 Bars 4)
Military Cross: 744 (incl. MC and Bar 37, MC and 2 Bars 4)
Distinguished Service Cross: 10 (incl. DSC and Bar 1)
Distinguished Flying Cross and Air Force Cross: 20

There were 60 of the rank of Major-General and above, and two Admirals.

World War II4,960 OEs served in the Armed Forces (Royal Navy and Royal Marines 398; Army 4,050; Royal Air Force 512).
748 died (RN and RM 33; Army 572; RAF 143).

Awards
Victoria Cross: 5
George Cross: 3
Distinguished Service Order: 280 (incl. DSO and Bar 25, DSO and 2 Bars 1)
Military Cross: 389 (incl. MC and Bar 31, MC and 2 Bars 3)
Distinguished Service Cross: 55 (incl. DSC and Bar 1, DSC and 2 Bars 1)
Distinguished Flying Cross and Air Force Cross 75 (incl. DFC and Bar 4)
George Medal: 3

OthersBallantrae, Bernard Fergusson, Baron (19111980)
Bathurst, Admiral of the Fleet Sir Benjamin (1936 )
Bramall, Field Marshal Edwin, Baron Bramall (1923 )
Byng of Vimy, Field Marshal Julian, 1st Viscount (18621935)
Granby, General John Manners, 1st Marquess of (17211770)
Howe, Brigadier-General George, 3rd Viscount (17251758)
Howe, Admiral of the Fleet Richard, 1st Earl (17261799)
Howe, General William, 5th Viscount (17291814)
Kumaramangalam, General Paramasiva Prabhakar (19132000)
Plumer, Field Marshal Herbert, 1st Viscount (18571932)
Wellesley, General Richard, 1st Marquess (17601842)
Wellington, Field Marshal Arthur Wellesley, 1st Duke of (17691852)
Wilson, Field Marshal Henry, 1st Baron (18811964)

Science, Mathematics & Industry

Aberconway, Charles McLaren, 3rd Baron (19132003 )
Aberconway, Henry, 2nd Baron (18791953)
Bacon, Francis Thomas, FRS (19041992)
Banks, Sir Joseph, 1st Bt, FRS (17431820)
Barrett, Norman Rupert, FRCS (19031979)
Boyle, Hon. Robert, FRS (16271691)
Cadbury, Sir Dominic (1940 )
Chandos, Oliver Lyttelton, 1st Viscount (18931972)
Devonshire, William Cavendish, KG, FRS, 7th Duke of (18081891)
Egerton, Sir Alfred, FRS (18861959)
Fisher, James (19121970)
Gowers, Professor William Timothy, FRS (1963 )
Gurdon, Professor Sir John, FRS (1933 )
Haldane, J.B.S., FRS (18921964)
Herschel, Sir John, 1st Bt, FRS (17921871)
Hambro, Peter (1945 )
Huxley, Sir Julian, FRS (18871975)
James, Dr Oliver (1953 )
Keynes, John Maynard, Baron Keynes (18831946)
Lawes, Sir John, 1st Bt, FRS (18141899)
Lubbock, Sir John, 3rd Bt, FRS (18031865)
Merton, Sir Thomas, FRS (18881969)
Miers, Sir Henry, FRS (18581942)
Milner, Professor Robin FRS (1934 )
Moseley, Henry (18871915)
Ogston, Dr Alexander, FRS (19111996)
Oughtred, William (15751660)
Porritt, Hon. Jonathon (1950 )
Rayleigh, John William Strutt, 3rd Baron, FRS (18421919)
Rayleigh, Robert John Strutt, 4th Baron, FRS (18751947)
Rolls, Hon. Charles (18771910)
Spottiswoode, William (18251883) only briefly at Eton
Stanhope, Charles, 3rd Earl, FRS (17531816)
Townshend, Charles Turnip, 2nd Viscount (16741738)
Whitehead, Professor John, FRS (19041960)
Wilson, Peter (19131984)
Wolfram, Dr Stephen (1959 )

Travellers & Explorers

Bury, Charles (18831963)
Byron, Robert (19051941)
Fiennes, Sir Ranulph Twisleton-Wykeham-, 3rd Bt (1944 )
Fleming, Peter (19071971)
Gilbert, Sir Humphrey (c. 15391583)
Grylls, Bear (1974 )
Hanbury-Tenison, Robin (1936 )
Kinglake, Alexander (18091891)
Mason, Lieutenant-Commander Michael (19001982)
Oates, Captain Lawrence (18801912)
Snow, Sebastian (19292001)
Stewart, Rory (1973 )
Thesiger, Sir Wilfred (19102003)

Finance and the Press

Astor, Hon. David (19122001): Editor, The Observer 19481975
Astor of Hever, Gavin Astor, 2nd Baron (19181984): Chairman of Times Publishing Co. 19591966, President of Times Newspapers 19671981
Astor, Hon. Hugh Waldorf (19201999): Deputy Chairman of Times Publishing Co. 19591967, Director of Hambros 19601991
Astor of Hever, John Jacob Astor, 1st Baron (18861971): Proprietor, The Times
Astor, Waldorf, 2nd Viscount (18791952): Proprietor, The Observer 19111945
Burnham, Harry, 1st Viscount (18621933): Proprietor, The Daily Telegraph 19031928
Burnham, Edward Lawson, 4th Baron (18901963): Managing Director of The Daily Telegraph 19271939 and 194561
Camrose, Seymour Berry, 2nd Viscount (19091995): Chairman, Daily Telegraph Ltd. 19391987
Cobbold, Cameron Fromanteel, 1st Baron (19041987): Governor of the Bank of England 19491961, Lord Chamberlain of HM Household 19631971
Coleridge, David (1932 ): Chairman of Lloyds 1991, 1992
Coleridge, Nicholas (1957 ): Managing Director, CondNast Publications 1992
Cowdray, Weetman Pearson, 3rd Viscount (19101995): President, Pearson PLC
Cromer, Rowland Baring, 3rd Earl of (19181991): Governor of the Bank of England 19611966, MD of Baring Bros & Co. 19481961, 19671970
Dawson (until 1917 Robinson), Geoffrey (18741944): Editor, The Times 19121919 and 19231941
Dimsdale, Sir Joseph, 1st Bt. (18491912): Lord Mayor of London 19011902
Douglas-Home, Charles (19371985): Editor, The Times 19821985
Drogheda, Charles Moore, 11th Earl of (19101990): MD of Financial Times Ltd. 19451970, Chairman 19711975
Goldsmith, Sir James (19331997)
Hartwell, Michael Berry, Baron (19112001): Chairman and Editor-in-Chief, The Daily Telegraph 19541987, The Sunday Telegraph 19611987
Hoberman, Brent (1968 ): Dotcom entrepreneur
Hogg, Quintin (18451903)
Keynes, John Maynard, Baron Keynes (18831946)
Kingsdown, Robin Leigh-Pemberton, Baron (1927 ): Governor of the Bank of England 19831993
Lawson, Dominic (1956 ): Editor, The Spectator, 19901995, The Sunday Telegraph, 1995
Lubbock, John, FRS, 1st Baron Avebury (18341913)
Moore, Charles (1956 ): Editor, The Spectator, 19841990, The Sunday Telegraph, 19901995, The Daily Telegraph, 1995
Norman, Montagu, 1st Baron (18711950): Governor of the Bank of England 19201944
Palumbo, Peter, Baron Palumbo (1935 )
Smith, Sir John (19232007)
Studd, Sir Kynaston, 1st Bt. (18581944): Lord Mayor of London
Taylor, Martin (1952 ): Chief Executive, Barclays Bank 19941998
Villiers, Hon. Arthur (18831969): Director of Barings and philanthropist

Sport

Allen, Sir George (Gubby) (19021989)
Armytage, Marcus (1964 )
Barclay, John (1954 )
Birabongse of Siam, Prince (as B. Bira) (19151985)
Boone, W. R. (1950 )
Bourne, Gilbert, FRS (18611933)
Bourne, R. C. (18881938)
Bourne R. M. A. (19181995)
Burghley, David Cecil, Lord Burghley, later 6th Marquess of Exeter (19051981)
Burnell, C. D. (18761969)
Clive, Lewis (19101938)
Cobb, John (18991952)
Cobham, Charles Lyttelton, 10th Viscount (19091977)
Coode, Edward (1975 )
Cottesloe, John Fremantle, 4th Baron (19001994)
Courage, Piers (19421970)
Darwin, Bernard (18761961)
Dixon, Robin (3rd Baron Glentoran) (1935 )
Drysdale, Robin (1952 )
Dunn, Arthur (18601902)
Fleming, Matthew (1964 )
Fox-Pitt, William (1969 )
Gold, Sir Harcourt (18761952)
Haig-Thomas, Peter (18821959)
Harris, George, 4th Baron (18511932)
Hawke, Martin, 7th Baron (18601938)
Hue-Williams, Mark (1968 )
Ingleby-Mackenzie, Colin (19332006)
Killanin, Michael Morris, 3rd Baron (19141999)
Kinnaird, Arthur, 11th Baron (18471923)
Lawes, Sir Charles, 2nd Bt (Lawes-Wittewronge from 1902) (18431911)
Lawrence, John, 2nd Baron Oaksey (1929 )
Lindsay, Andrew (1977 )
Loudon, Alex (1980 )
Lyttelton, Hon. Alfred (18571913)
Mann, George (19172001)
Muttlebury, Stanley (18661933)
Nickalls, Guy (18661935)
Palmer-Tomkinson, C. D. (1942 )
Palmer-Tomkinson, J. A. (19151952)
Palmer-Tomkinson, J. J. (1943 )
Pinsent, Sir Matthew (1970 )
Segrave, Sir Henry (18961930)
Zborowski, Count Louis (18951924)

The FA Cup was won by the Old Etonians in 1879 and 1882. They won the Arthur Dunn Cup (for public school old boys soccer) in 2005.

Art and Architecture

Andreae, Giles (1966 )
Bath, Alexander Thynn, 7th Marquess of (formerly Viscount Weymouth) (1932 )
Campbell, James (1942 )
Cox, Sir Trenchard (19061995)
Darwin, Sir Robin (19101974)
de Grey, Sir Roger (19181995)
Esher, Lionel Brett, 4th Viscount (19132004)
Evans, Sidney (18661949)
Evans, William (17981877)
Evergood, Philip (19011973)
Faure Walker, James (1948 )
Ford, Sir Brinsley (19081999)
Grimthorpe, Edmund Beckett, 1st Baron (18161905)
Hodgkin, Sir Howard (1932 )
Hurford, James (19451997)
Jaff Michael (19231997)
Kelly, Sir Gerald (18791972)
Le Grice, Jeremy (1936 )
Leigh-Pemberton, John (19111997)
Lowinsky, Thomas (18921947)
McEwen, Rory (Roderick) (19321982)
Merton, John (1913 )
Queensberry, David Douglas, 12th Marquess of (formerly Viscount Drumlanrig) (1929 )
Snowdon, Antony Armstrong-Jones, 1st Earl of (1930 )
Stevens, Sir Jocelyn (1932 )
Stone, Reynolds (19091979)
Verney, Sir John, 2nd Bt (19131993)
Woodyer, Henry (18161896)

Music

Arne, Thomas (17101778)
Berners, Gerald Tyrwhitt-Wilson, 14th Baron (18831950)
Butterworth, George (18851916)
Cannan, Denis (formerly Pullein-Thompson) (1919 )
Chance, Michael (1955 )
Christie, John (18821962)
Dent, Edward (18761957)
Gascoigne, Brian (1943 )
Grier, Francis (1955 )
Hely-Hutchinson, Victor (19011947)
Lyttelton, Humphrey (19212008)
Morell, Thomas, FRS (17031784)
Parry, Sir Hubert, 1st Bt (18481918)
Quilter, Roger (18771953)
Still, Robert (19101971)
Warlock, Peter (Philip Heseltine) (18941930)
Weldon, John (16761736)

Writers, poets, wits, scholars, dons, schoolmasters

Acton, Sir Harold (19041994)
Ascherson, Neal (1932 )
Ayer, Sir Alfred (19101989)
Baring, Maurice (18741945)
Benedictus, David (1938 )
Benson, Arthur (18621925)
Blair, Eric (George Orwell) (19031950)
Bridges, Robert (18441930)
Browning, Oscar (18371923)
Burnand, Sir Francis Cowley (1836-1917)
Burnell, Mark (1965 )
Butler, Rohan (19171996)
Carter, Jake (19051975)
Casaubon, Meric (15991671)
Cecil, Lord David (19021986)
Churchill, Hon. Randolph Spencer (19111968)
Clutton-Brock, Arthur (18681924)
Coldstream, John (1927 2008)
Connolly, Cyril (19031974)
Cory (formerly Johnson), William (18231892)
Cumming, Charles (1971 )
Dickinson, Peter (1927 )
Dolben, Digby Mackworth- (18481867)
Donegall, Edward Chichester, 6th Marquess of (19031975)
Douglas-Home, Hon. William (19121992)
Dunsany, Edward Plunkett, 18th Baron (18781957)
Fielding, Henry (17071754)
Fleming, Ian (19081964)
Fleming, Peter (19071971)
Giles, Granville Charles Trelawney (18911976)
Godolphin, Henry (16481733)
Gray, Thomas (17161771)
Green, Henry (Henry Yorke) (19051973)
Grenfell, Hon. Julian (18881915)
Greville, Charles (17941865)
Guinness, Bryan, 2nd Baron Moyne (1905 1992)
Hallam, Arthur Henry (18111833)
Hart-Davis, Duff (1936 )
Hart-Davis, Sir Rupert (19071999)
Harvey, Robert (1953 )
Heygate, Sir John, 4th Bt. (19031976)
Holroyd, Michael (1935 )
Hornblower, Simon (1949 )
Howard, Brian (19051958)
Howard, Philip (1933 )
Huxley, Aldous (18941963)
James, Montague Rhodes (18621936)
Jenkyns, R.H.A. (1949 )
Johnson, Peter (1956 )
Jones, Sir Lawrence, 5th Bt. (18851969)
Joynes, James Leigh (18531893)
Keate, Dr John (17731852)
Knox, Ronnie (18881957)
Lane Fox, Robin (1946 )
Lees-Milne, James (19081997)
Lehmann, John (19071987)
Leslie, Sir Shane, 3rd Bt. (18851971)
LEstrange, Rev A.G.K. (18321915)
Llewelyn Davies, Peter (18971960)
Longford, Francis Pakenham, 7th Earl of (19052001)
Loyd, Anthony (1966 )
Lyttelton, Hon. George (18831962)
MacCarthy, Sir Desmond (18771952)
Mackworth Praed, Winthrop (18021839)
Maclean of Dunconnel, Sir Fitzroy, 1st Bt. (19111996)
Mason, Richard (1978 )
Maugham, Robin, 2nd Viscount (19161981)
Mortimer, E. J. (1943 )
Mosley, Nicholas (3rd Baron Ravensdale) (1923 )
Murray, John (19091993)
Murray, Sir John (IV) (18511928)
Murray, Sir John (V) (18841967)
Mynors, Sir Roger (19031989)
Nicolson, Nigel (19172004)
Ollard, Richard (1923 2007)
Opie, Peter (19181982)
Orwell, George (Eric Blair) (19031950)
Parfit, Derek (1942 )
Parker, Eric (18701955)
Payn, James (18301898)
Porson, Richard (17591808)
Powell, Anthony (19062000)
Riley-Smith, Jonathan (1938 )
Runciman, Hon. Sir Steven (19032000)
Runciman of Doxford, Walter Runciman, 2nd Viscount (19001989)
Russell, Conrad, 5th Earl (19372004)
Rylands, Dadie (19021999)
Salt, Henry Shakespear Stephens (18511939)
Sandford, Jeremy (19302003)
Selwyn, George (17191791)
Shaw-Stewart, Patrick (18881917)
Shelley, Percy Bysshe (17921822)
Sinclair, Andrew (1935 )
Sitwell, Sir Osbert, 5th Bt. (18921969)
Sitwell, Sir Sacheverell, 6th Bt. (18971988)
Starling, Boris (1969 )
Stephen, Sir Leslie (18321904)
Stone, Christopher (18821965)
Swinburne, Algernon (18371909)
Thring, Edward (18211887)
Thubron, Colin (1939 )
Wade, Henry (Sir Henry Aubrey-Fletcher, Bt.) (18871969)
Waller, Edmund (16061687)
Walpole, Horatio (Horace), FRS, 4th Earl of Orford (17171797)
Walters, Guy (1971 )
Watkins, Paul (1964 )
Whitaker, Ben (1934 )
Williams, Hugo (1942 )
Ziegler, Philip (1929 )

Historians of Eton

Austen-Leigh, Richard (18721961)
Ballantrae, Brigadier Lord (19111980)
Card, Tim (19312001)
Cust, Sir Lionel (18591929)
Hollis, Christopher (19021977)
Hussey, Christopher (18991970)
Maxwell Lyte, Sir Henry (18481940)
Sterry, Sir Wasey (18661955)

Drama, film, radio, television

Adams-Dale, Will (1974 )
Alston, Dr Richard (1948 )
Barton, John (1928 )
Beecham, Derrick (19211988)
Bennett, Edward (1950 )
Benthall, Michael (19191974)
Bentine (= Bentin), Michael (19221996)
Blofeld, Henry (1939 )
Bourchier, Arthur (18641927)
Brett (= Huggins), Jeremy (19331995)
Brooksbank, Scott (1976 )
Cazenove, Christopher (1940 )
Cecil, Jonathan (1939 )
Child, Sir Jeremy (1944 )
Clyde, Jeremy (1941 )
Dimsdale, Oliver (1972 )
Doran, Colin (19181991)
Douglas (= Leigh Pemberton), Nigel (1929 )
Douglas-Home, Hon. William (19121992)
Fearnley-Whittingstall, Hugh (1965 )
Fernandez-Armesto, Sebastian (1982 )
Frieda, Jordan (1977 )
Gascoigne, Bamber (1935 )
Harewood, George Lascelles, 7th Earl of (1923 )
Hart-Davis, Adam (1943 )
Hawtrey, Sir Charles (18581923)
Hiddleston, Tom (1981 )
Hogg, James (1937 )
Howard, Robin (192489)
Hudson, Hugh (1936 )
Jessel, David (1945 )
Johnston, Brian (19121994)
Kean, Charles (c. 18111868)
Keen, Will (1970 )
Kennedy, Sir Ludovic (1919 )
Landale, James (1968 )
Laurie, Hugh (1959 )
Lewis, Damian (1971 )
Lloyd, Harry (1983 )
Lyttelton, Humphrey (19212008)
MacKinnon, Bruce (1978 )
Macnee, Patrick (1922 )
Massey, Daniel (19331998)
Maud, Andrew (1964 )
Messel, Oliver (19041978)
Milburn, Oliver (1973 )
Norwich, John Julius Cooper, 2nd Viscount (1929 )
Ogilvy, Ian (1943 )
Ormerod, Nicholas (1951 )
Ovenden, Julian (1975 )
Powell, Tristram (1940 )
Redmayne, Eddie (1982 )
Rowe, Nicholas (1966 )
Slade, Julian (19302006)
Standing, John (Sir John Leon, Bt) (1934 )
Tennyson, Penrose (19121941)
Warre, Michael (192287)
West, Dominic (1969 )
Woodall, Ed (1967 )
Woods, Simon (1980 )
Young, Sir Brian (1922 )

Other Old Etonians

Benenson, Peter (1921 ): Founder of Amnesty International
Brummel, George Beau (17781840)
Charteris, Martin, Baron Charteris of Amisfield (19131999): The Queens Private Secretary, Permanent Lord-in-Waiting to the Queen
Finch-Hatton, Denys (18871931): Game-hunter and aviator, portrayed in Out of Africa
Fellowes, Sir Robert (1941 ): The Queens Private Secretary
Gladstone, Sir William, 7th Bt (1925 ): Schoolmaster and Chief Scout
Ilbert, Courtenay Adrian (18881956): Horologist
Knox, Alfred Dillwyn (18841943): Cryptographer
Lucan, Richard John Bingham, 7th Earl of (1934?): Missing
Lynch, Thomas, Jnr (17491779): Signatory of the American Declaration of Independence
Rowallan, Thomas Corbett, 2nd Baron (18951977): Soldier and Chief Scout
Wallace, Captain Ronald (19192002): Master of foxhounds
Wagner, Sir Anthony (19081995): Heraldic scholar

Fred1new - 09 Jun 2009 18:01 - 476 of 518

Haystack,

Thank you, but you needn't have bothered.

I am sure even amongst that bunch there could be a few decent individuals amongst them.

It is amazing what can be accomplished with money and a few good hidings.

Were you and Lord Lucan at Eton?

Fred1new - 09 Jun 2009 18:03 - 477 of 518

Just notice, Hogg of the Moat was there. Now that is a fair advertisement!

marni - 09 Jun 2009 18:17 - 478 of 518

halifax......u go on about others in scotland voting on english matters..........england is made up of muslims, blacks, poles, other east euros, in fact every nationality including me!
scotland as far as i know is only 60% scots with 20% english so maybe its the english in scotland voting on the foreigners in england!! lol

halifax - 09 Jun 2009 21:13 - 479 of 518

marni you have missed the point ,where you live is where you should vote on matters concerning the respective country. This has nothing to do with race or in your case racism.

hewittalan6 - 09 Jun 2009 23:49 - 480 of 518

Quite a list on the Eton OB's, but their most enduring achievement was to wave money and taunt at redundant and penniless marchers, marching for jobs during the early 80's.

The only upside to that disgraceful showing of true colours was it was the inspiration for paul Weller to write "Eton Rifles".

Anyway, the list may look good but are they achieving well in the league tables for literacy and numeracy (or english and maths as we called them).

marni - 09 Jun 2009 23:50 - 481 of 518

i wasnt being racist....in case you dont realise my ancestry aint british!...that logic is nonsense if you say go to wales you live and then vote in relation to welsh assembly where one would know nothing about it but you are still allowed to vote cos you live there.

you appear to have a huge chip on your shoulder.

Haystack - 10 Jun 2009 03:42 - 482 of 518

That was pretty amusing. I remember them dropping photocopied 50 notes onto demonstartors out of the windows of the high rises in the City.

I'm afraid it wasn't redundant and peniless marchers. It was anti-capitalist, anarchist and class-war groups. A bit like the G7 and G20 protest groups.

Last year's A level Maths at Eton was 110 A grade, 21 B grade and 4 grade C

http://www.etoncollege.com/UserFiles/File/S2008%20Results%20Statistics%20A2c.pdf

hewittalan6 - 10 Jun 2009 07:57 - 483 of 518

One mans freedom fighter is another mans terrorist.


Or one mans fish is another mans poisson

Haystack - 10 Jun 2009 08:38 - 484 of 518

At least Maggie crushed Scargill at the right time.

hewittalan6 - 10 Jun 2009 09:00 - 485 of 518

Or did she...................

Thereby hangs another tale.......................

Haystack - 10 Jun 2009 09:18 - 486 of 518

Certainly less union trouble since then.

moneyplus - 10 Jun 2009 12:54 - 487 of 518

I wonder if David Cameron is too nice and not tough enough to act Like Maggie. It will certainly need some very unpleasant medicine and government belt tightening to get the country back on a steady course--even bruiser Brown says a lot--does very little except continue to chuck our money at everything----the grandchildren will pay!! good to read your comments again Alan--I hope you're well.

XSTEFFX - 10 Jun 2009 13:43 - 488 of 518

RMT STOPS LONDON, THATS A UNION.

Haystack - 10 Jun 2009 14:28 - 489 of 518

The RMT is once more bahaving badly. They have held London to ransom over two drivers who were sacked.

One driver was sacked over opening the doors on the wrong side of a Victoria Line train & then lying about carrying out safety checks and the other was sacked for theft.

The RMT said they would strike unless the drivers were reinstated.

There are many kids doing GCSEs this week and having terrible journeys to school as the buses are completely full and the bus queues huge. The roads are jam packed as well. The estimate is 100 million cost to London due to the strike.

hewittalan6 - 10 Jun 2009 19:15 - 490 of 518

Just to stir things up a bit............

I think we are all agreed that the current problems are the result of greed and stupidity. Stupidity is not the reserve of any political party, they are all blessed with more than their fair share.

Greed on the other hand became powerful as a political and business sentiment in the golden days of Gordon Gecko. When we were all offered shares and council houses for the price of a pint, and encouraged to look simply at the bottom line.

And who was in power then? The Magatron.

If you see Sid - tell him.

moneyplus - 10 Jun 2009 20:15 - 491 of 518

not greed aspirations!! Council houses with smashed windows and rubbish dump gardens suddenly got double glazing, nice gardens and a coat of paint. gimme gimme turned into pride of ownership. The big mistake was not to build more council housing and not to stop people who bought for a snip selling at a massive profit. Maggie got people off their backsides earning and making money---after the first dose of union smashing and nasty medicine!! Here we go again--full circle London held to ransom.

hewittalan6 - 10 Jun 2009 22:56 - 492 of 518

Told you I can stir things up a bit.

Aspirations????

In a time when property was already very cheap, these people had happily rented for 30 years. Not much aspiration there. Or perhaps they could not save for a deposit.......so they were uncreditworthy, as we have now found out with deposit free mortgages.

The double glazing / coat of paint / nice garden thing is a utopian dream. What people actually bought was new cars and Spanish holidays. And what made them suddenly capable of spending money, even if it was on paint and gardens? Equity gifted from the government and banks greedy to lend and make money.

The Magatron actually put more people on their backsides by closing whole industries and commiting 3 million to the dole.

We never really made money. To make money, someone has to lose money. Either that or you must buy and then sell at a profit, or manufacture something. What we actually did was to convince each other that what we had was worth more. We did not make anything - The Magatron saw to that. No-one lost because our property, gifted to us by a benevolent leader was going up in value. We didn't buy and sell at a profit. All we did was export the mirage, and charge people for the priviledge of it.

We will never see eye to eye, but frankly, London being held to ransom for 2 days is not important to me, especially when compared to an entire area of the country being held hostage to misplaced political ideals for over a decade..............
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