Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).

Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.

cheers GF.

Of course it does!

if clacton's residents are similar to those of frinton, then yes, they almost certainly are ...... they would no doubt deny it, but i wonder how many non-white members there are of their local golf club

more seriously, there is no question at all that the current immigration system needs a radical overhaul so that those who are allowed residential status have skills that are required and/or can prove that they will not be a strain/drain on the welfare system ..... that is not greatly different from what australia, usa and canada already have in place

I don't think the people on here, who are slinging the term racist about, actually know what it means.

Racism consists of both prejudice and discrimination based in social perceptions of biological differences between peoples.

It often takes the form of social actions, practices or beliefs, or political systems that consider different races to be ranked as inherently superior or inferior to each other, based on presumed shared inheritable traits, abilities, or qualities.

Before these posters go any further, they need to define what they mean by the term 'racist'?

It cannot be wrong to want to protect the culture of your country against it being spoiled by residents of another country.

But similarly, it must be wrong to say that the UK is being spoiled by people from other countries when they immigrate into the UK and add value.

As in all things, moderation is usually the best stance.

it must be wrong to say that the UK is being spoiled by people from other countries when they immigrate into the UK and add value.

exactly so and is rather what i have written several times before

Is voting for the UKIP racist? If so why? Last time I checked immigration was only one reason why we maybe shouldn't be in the EU... Personally the EU policies on Health and Safety, Minimum Wage, Benefits, HUMAN bloody RIGHTS, Environment and Energy are all reasons why voting for UKIP makes sense... On a personal note if I can sit with my family on the beach in Southsea eating ice-cream and not feel like I'm a stranger on my own shores I'd be a lot happier...

Exactly.

Voting for UKIP might be racist.

Voting for UKIP might not be racist.

As to whether it is racist or not to vote UKIP depends on the motives of the individual voters.

It cannot be defined as a generality. As in: "If you vote for UKIP you are being racist."

What utter rubbish!

Good old Shortie.

cynic you have posted many times on migrants working cleaning cars .
well if that is what they are allowed in the uk to do then it must be stopped
they will pay no taxes none but will use all services that must end
just back from Tenerife and Portugal and did ask questions
the e 111 is only for minor needs and can not be used fror other treatments you have to have insurance the immigrants coming to the uk have nothing and pay nothing even cleaning cars they claim benefits . that is why we are going to vote ukip our only hope . most of the low life scum coming to the uk are criminals

ukip are the party of the uk the only party

ask any immigrant one question why do you want to come to the uk .
answer benefits they give you house and money and free services we have won the lottery .

Why does Cameron, Milliband and Clegg want us in Europe? Answers simple, they get paid for not making any decisions... How the Prime Minister can claim to be running the country is beyond me, his policies must fall in-line with those of Brussels as must law.. Why do we have so many MPs, I think the real answer is due to the amount of RED tape we now have to jump through and be compliant upon... The below link is just one example of everything wrong with being in the EU...

http://cleanairinlondon.org/hot-topics/europe-at-its-best-takes-legal-action-against-uk-at-its-worst-on-air-pollution/

I don't believe that every immigrant comes to the country for benefits... I've met plenty that are taxi driving here as the money is good which they send home... Lets face it, if I could do the same job in Poland earning twice as much I would... And just like these immigrants I'd feel no loyalty to the country I'd be working in either!!

Lets not forget, they're here for the money however it's earn't because we allow them to be....

rather like "our chaps" going to m/e to work then

a similar analogy in m/e is to look to see the nationalit(ies) of all the hotel staff, and we are talking of those in reception, the hotel restaurants etc etc, so scarcely the "lowest form of life"
as here, the locals aren't interested or would not even be half as good

I think that Cameron genuinely wants to stay in the EU for reasons of benefits to the UK. There are very convincing arguments either way. In his party there are people on both sides of discussions. There is a pretty jaundiced view of politicians regarding the EU. I have met a number of very senipr members of the Conservative party and they all seem genuine people who work for the good of the UK. They may be painted otherwise by other parties but they have the best intentions. Labour likes to charactarise Conservative as wanting to break up the NHS. The reality is very different. They are committed to free health care at the point of delivery. They just disagree as to how that is provided. We all knowhow inefficient the NHS is. The Conservatives are trying to do something about it.

Just about sums up:





And for Manuel!

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Government’s reorganisation of the NHS was its biggest 'mistake', say senior Tories



The dawn is breaking:

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/governments-reorganisation-of-the-nhs-was-its-biggest-mistake-say-senior-tories-9790247.html


IAN JOHNSTON Monday 13 October 2014






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The Government’s reorganisation of the NHS was its biggest “mistake”, senior Conservatives have reportedly admitted.

Labour has pledged to repeal the “toxic” 2012 Health and Social Care Act, which saw a major restructuring of how the NHS is funded. Some claim the bill was designed to pave the way for private firms to take over much of the running of the health service or even its privatisation.

Experts said the reorganisation, which is estimated to have cost about £3bn, had caused “profound and intense” damage to the NHS with one saying former Health Secretary, Andrew Lansley, would be facing disciplinary action if he had been a doctor.

A senior Cabinet minister told The Times newspaper: “We’ve made three mistakes that I regret, the first being restructuring the NHS. The rest are minor.”

One insider said the plans, which were drawn up by Mr Lansley, were “unintelligible gobbledygook” and an ally of Chancellor George Osborne said: “George kicks himself for not having spotted it and stopped it. He had the opportunity then and he didn’t take it.”

A former No 10 adviser also told The Times: “No one apart from Lansley had a clue what he was really embarking on, certainly not the Prime Minister. He [Lansley] kept saying his grand plans had the backing of the medical establishment and we trusted him. In retrospect it was a mistake.”



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Here the more of the silver is being sold off to camouflage the debts the "government" has run up.

Sold the silver and giving gold to their pals.

oh dear
someone's let red fred out his box again
how dull

Nigel Farage invited to take part in 2015 TV leaders’ debates

BBC, ITV, Channel 4 and Sky News agree plan for Ukip leader to appear with David Cameron, Nick Clegg and Ed Miliband



Jason Deans


theguardian.com, Monday 13 October 2014 10.30 BST





Nigel Farage has been invited by the UK’s leading broadcasters to take part in TV leaders’ debates in the runup to next year’s general election.

The Ukip leader is being offered a place in a live debate with David Cameron, Nick Clegg and Ed Miliband to be broadcast on ITV, in a joint proposal pitched to the main political parties on Monday morning.

It remains to be seen whether the Conservative, Liberal Democrat and Labour leaders agree to appear with Farage.

The BBC, ITV, Channel 4 and Sky News have jointly agreed to a plan for three TV debates and written to the leaders of the four parties with their proposal.



What the broadcasters are proposing:

http://www.theguardian.com/media/2014/oct/13/nigel-farage-2015-leaders-debates-bbc-itv-sky-news