Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).

Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.

cheers GF.

DB4,

I think, Cameron hasn't got any real policies he has responses to "public opinion" and "pressures".

At heart he appears a PR, or Con man promising this or that today and then changing the label on the snake oil bottle.

He stumbles from one U-Turn or broke promise to another, covering up with implausible lies.

He should pick up his bags and leave the scene of his crimes!

“We will say to people that if you can work, and if you want to work, we will do everything we can to help you. We will give you the training, we will give you the support, we will give you the advice to get you going and get you back at work.”

Or hide jobseekers away on the government’s controversial Work Programme so that they can manipulate unemployment statistics perhaps?

Religion of peace news....



Thousands of Yazidi women sold as sex slaves 'for theological reasons', says Isil

Article in Islamic State's English-language online magazine Dabiq not only admits selling Yazidi women into sex slavery but justifies it according to the theological rulings of early Islam



By Richard Spencer

1:13PM BST 13 Oct 2014



Islamic State jihadists have given detailed theological reasons justifying why they have taken thousands of women from the Iraqi Yazidi minority and sold them into sex slavery.


A new article in the Islamic State English-language online magazine Dabiq not only admits the practice but justifies it according to the theological rulings of early Islam.


"After capture, the Yazidi women and children were then divided according to the Sharia amongst the fighters of the Islamic State who participated," the article says.


It says there is a difference between women from Muslim sects the jihadists regard as heretical, who can be considered as "apostates", and the so-called mushrikin - polytheists and pagans.


"Their women could be enslaved, unlike female apostates."



More: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/islamic-state/11158797/Thousands-of-Yazidi-women-sold-as-sex-slaves-for-theological-reasons-says-Isil.html

islam is not a religion it is religion of hate and any one who says they are of Islamic faith no what they are .
read the world of islam and mohammed they do not believe in any god just use it to rape and murder .
all religions is a sham lies lies lies

islam is not a religion it is religion of hate
just shows how totally ignorant you are, in all senses of the word

Shortie,

Read the poster.

My heart was lifted I thought it read Cameron has been sectioned.

My thoughts were throw away the key!

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cynic.

What is your opinion of Judaism and the belief of the "Chosen Race" which permeates the Israeli thinking of the problems in the M.E.?


Of course you can skate past the question!

do you actually mean judaism?
i think not

what do i think of the way the israeli gov't is treating the palestinians in gaza?
disgusting

Being Buddhist I'll sit this debate out and play with my bells...

Lol

Much of the muck being thrown around about immigration reminds me of sitting down to supper with my father as a boy.

He had a smile and chuckle on his face and of course I asked why.

He explain that he had been to a management/Union/representative meeting held regularly at the pit which manage.
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His idea of holding regular meetings was to diffuse problems and discuss changes on the pit before they occurred to prevent strikes. (These meetings were very successful.)

His smiling and chuckling was that earlier that day when informing such a meeting, that he was preparing to introduce a group of Italian miners to work on the pit, as there was a shortage man power.

He expected had some problems from the indigenous Welsh miners, but none occurred, until the representative of Polish miners who were already working on the pit stated, that they didn't want a "bloody foreigners" coming to worked at "their" pit.

He said that the meeting broke down in laughter and the meeting closed.

Many of the Italian and Polish miners eventually fell into the arms of Welsh girls and "married" them, were accepted and settled down to bring up families in nearby villages.


(I know there is a problem between being absorbed into and overwhelming the indigenous population.)

(Mind some of the Italians had lovely voices.)

This was after the time of the Bracchi shops.

muslims in the uk know who the murderer is when it is known they and all their kind and family must be kicked out .all religions are just evil .any one who has any brans knows god is a fairy tale

so fred, did i answer the question you intended to ask?

cynic you have never answered any question you avoid facts

off to cost del sol soon for a nice break

Has anyone read the book Of mice and men. :-))

Tanker - All religions have the potential for evil but also the potential to do great good... The problem occurs when conflict in the 'name' of religion occurs. To say all religions are evil suggests that you don't hold any faith. Surely you must if not for yourself but a loved one.

i didn't ask you or for your opinion (on anything) ...... and assuredly fred has a tongue of his own

Manuel,

Aren't you ducking one of the questions.

Part of the problems of the ME. could be thought as primitive tribal interpretation of various religions and the belief in the superiority of their "cultures" at the expense of those of "others".

The ends which are wished to be obtained have very little difference at the end of the day (supremacy of one over another, or sometimes a rejection of such positioning).

The ways of obtaining such goals are played out in different ways but really they are similar.
Instigation of fear by killing and maiming, whether from a plane 5000 feet in sky, bombing and maiming indiscriminately etc, or a suicide bomber blowing themselves up dismembering and destroying human life for his cause.

The wounded, maimed, injured or dead and their families have similar feelings.

Religion is not the problem, the problem is the abuse of religion!

not intentionally ducking anything, but nor has the palestinian question really anything to do with judaism

it is however a fact that certain jewish sects think that israel (for convenience) is "their" promised land
one could certainly reasonably argue that the creeping annexation of gaza is just greed hiding under a facade of religion
if that land had oil reserves, it would be easier to explain but patently it does not!

whatever the reason, my personal view is that the current israeli action is disgusting almost beyond words ...... though nor do i take the view that gaza "belongs" as of right to the palestinians/arabs either!