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THE TALK TO YOURSELF THREAD. (NOWT)     

goldfinger - 09 Jun 2005 12:25

Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).

Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.

cheers GF.

goldfinger - 14 Oct 2014 18:53 - 47615 of 81564

Spot on Fred, spot on.

MaxK - 14 Oct 2014 19:00 - 47616 of 81564

The SNP will not be voting on English matters, and that's where the money comes from Fred.


aldwickk - 14 Oct 2014 19:01 - 47617 of 81564

Bet your the kind of person that doesn't buy sweets or put out a pumpkin for the kids at Halloween, celebrate Christmas, Easter or Guy Fawkes... Bah Humbug!!

We never had any fuss about Halloween & trick or treat , until the big retail store's found that they could make a penny or two, also school proms is another thing imported from America.

Haystack - 14 Oct 2014 19:11 - 47618 of 81564

Scotland has had similar for a long while. It is called guising. It is done in Canada and probably from immigrants from Scotland.

Fred1new - 14 Oct 2014 19:17 - 47619 of 81564

How you can have an entity called the UK with the major Tax collecting system and say that anything in the the UK does not "effect" directly, or indirectly Scotland, Wales or Ireland beats me.

Remember the butterfly in the jungle.

If there is complete devolvement of Scotland then it is obvious that SNP can't vote on bills effecting the England.
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But put it to the voters.

goldfinger - 14 Oct 2014 19:24 - 47620 of 81564

It’s more likely that George Osborne is the next Doctor Who than he will balance the government’s books – Tax Research UK 10/10/2014

I have warned, successively, that the Budget forecasts on tax revenue growth were ludicrously high both for this year and for several to come, writes Richard Murphy.

I also suggested that the OBR was discredited by endorsing them. As the table below shows, I did the maths to show why that had to be the case (it wasn’t hard to do). And now, as the FT reports:

“Britain’s economic recovery has generated far less tax revenue than forecast, raising the prospect of even deeper spending cuts after the general election to balance the budget.

“The latest blow to the public finances was an admission from the Office of Budget Responsibility on Monday that income tax receipts – the biggest single source of government revenue – are likely to fall short of government targets this year, despite record levels of employment.”

Three immediate issues follow from this. The first is that the quality of Treasury forecasting is dire. No one in their right minds could have believed the levels of growth forecast in March 2014 as shown in this table, the data for which is taken straight from the March 2014 budget with my extrapolation of growth rates added:

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It wasn’t just growth in tax revenues that was forecast, it was growth way beyond any underlying level of economic increase in activity that was suggested was going to happen this year, and that was always utterly implausible.

Second, we have to consider the possibility that the Treasury just lied when putting forward these growth projections. They are so ridiculous, that has to be the best possible explanation for them.

And we have to the consider that the OBR may have been complicit in this – because if it was truly independent it should have been flagging up how unlikely this revenue growth was in March, and not now.

And what does it all mean?

It means all Osborne’s economic claims are bunkum – but you should read Mr Murphy’s analysis at Tax Research UK.

Fred1new - 14 Oct 2014 19:33 - 47621 of 81564

And the real level of productive work and "working hours" are falsified.

MaxK - 14 Oct 2014 20:00 - 47622 of 81564

What it all means is the so called recovery is a figment of the imagination.


Yet the big boys at the IMF are hailing blighty as the current poster kid for growth.


Pray and delay?

Fred1new - 14 Oct 2014 20:18 - 47623 of 81564

What I think is even more marvelous is that according to Osborne all the UK problems were down to Brown and labour's incompetence and that the UK was insulated from economy collapse around the world.

Now he is shrieking, our future problems are due to "stagnation" in Europe and World trade situation.

I thought in that he was prepared by the labour government's problem and bad management he would have all the solutions!

He seems to me he is either a self deceiving l'enfant natural, or lying.

MaxK - 14 Oct 2014 20:24 - 47624 of 81564

To be fair, Broon really did thrash the economy.

But the "jobless" recovery seems to be a couple of wheels short of a wagon.

MaxK - 14 Oct 2014 20:25 - 47625 of 81564

It's in the Guardian, so it must be true!



House prices in London surging at almost 20% a year

National Housing Federation warns you’ll need to earn more than £100,000 to afford typical 80% mortgage



Rupert Jones


theguardian.com, Tuesday 14 October 2014 13.02 BST



http://www.theguardian.com/money/2014/oct/14/house-prices-london-surging-mortgage

goldfinger - 14 Oct 2014 20:43 - 47626 of 81564

What recovery????? Oil SP is falling through lack of demand.

A World recession is just around the corner.

Ask the Germans, the Russians and the Chinese.

goldfinger - 14 Oct 2014 20:47 - 47627 of 81564

Dave Camoron ‏@EtonOldBoys
4 million children one in three are currently living in poverty in the UK, one of the highest rates in the industrialised world #votetory

cynic - 14 Oct 2014 20:58 - 47628 of 81564

oil price is falling due to shale production and cheap(er) oil isn't all bad for all the obvious reasons

Haystack - 14 Oct 2014 21:01 - 47629 of 81564

Only the greens dislike cheap oil prices.

aldwickk - 14 Oct 2014 21:46 - 47630 of 81564

Message to Fred from Johnny Rotten

Johnny Rotten has said everyone should ignore Freds advice not to vote in the 2015 General Election and instead get themselves in a polling booth to give politicians "fucking hell."

Fred was labelled a "bum hole" by the 58-year-old Sex Pistols frontman, who made his name calling for anarchy, and said it would be a huge step backwards for the country if people chose to reject their right to vote.

Rotten, aka John Lydon, didn't give any hints to which party he would be voting for, while speaking at the Cheltenham Literature Festival, but made it clear he believes that disillusionment from politics is no excuse not to vote.

"If you don’t vote, you don’t count. It’s only a century ago that none of us had the right to vote and we don’t want to go back to that route," he said.

goldfinger - 14 Oct 2014 21:51 - 47631 of 81564

Dangerous blunder? Government deterring Ebola patients from seeking treatment?
14
Tuesday
Oct 2014
Posted by Tom Pride in hopeless naivety
(not satire – it’s the Cameron government)

In an effort to outflank Farage, the Cameron government announced in July that all non-EU visitors to the UK will be charged 150% of the normal fees to use the NHS:

“Patients from outside the EU to be charged 150% of the cost of treatment in the NHS.“

But yesterday the government announced they were advising non-EU visitors to voluntarily contact the NHS if they develop symptoms of Ebola while in the UK:

“Passengers to be told to make contact with the NHS should they develop Ebola symptoms.“

The Health Secretary Jeremy Hunt said he hoped travellers from those countries would “self-present” to the authorities if they developed any symptoms of illness.

In other words, the Cameron government is hoping possible Ebola patients will voluntarily contact the NHS if they have symptoms, while at the same time threatening them with having to pay 150% of the fees for their treatment if they do.

Anybody else see the serious – and possibly extremely dangerous – flaw in the government’s plans?

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Cameron is putting the entire UK at risk just to win back a few votes from UKIP

Fred1new - 14 Oct 2014 22:03 - 47632 of 81564

It is difficult to get money out of a penniless corpse!

Fred1new - 14 Oct 2014 22:09 - 47633 of 81564

Manuel.

You should know the answer.

What are the levels of oil level imports into the UK and other EU countries now and compared 2008,9,10,11,12,13,14 ?

Heard an interesting comment earlier to-day suggesting that Russia won't cut the supplies this winter to the old soviet blocks, because of falling prices and they need the cash.

Every cloud has ===========

Fred1new - 14 Oct 2014 22:12 - 47634 of 81564

Max.

Please an old man, how old are you?

Just inquisitive.

I know Cynic is getting closer to 70 and still 10 years younger than Haze!
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