Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).

Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.

cheers GF.

What recovery????? Oil SP is falling through lack of demand.

A World recession is just around the corner.

Ask the Germans, the Russians and the Chinese.

Dave Camoron ‏@EtonOldBoys
4 million children one in three are currently living in poverty in the UK, one of the highest rates in the industrialised world #votetory

oil price is falling due to shale production and cheap(er) oil isn't all bad for all the obvious reasons

Only the greens dislike cheap oil prices.

Message to Fred from Johnny Rotten

Johnny Rotten has said everyone should ignore Freds advice not to vote in the 2015 General Election and instead get themselves in a polling booth to give politicians "fucking hell."

Fred was labelled a "bum hole" by the 58-year-old Sex Pistols frontman, who made his name calling for anarchy, and said it would be a huge step backwards for the country if people chose to reject their right to vote.

Rotten, aka John Lydon, didn't give any hints to which party he would be voting for, while speaking at the Cheltenham Literature Festival, but made it clear he believes that disillusionment from politics is no excuse not to vote.

"If you don’t vote, you don’t count. It’s only a century ago that none of us had the right to vote and we don’t want to go back to that route," he said.

Dangerous blunder? Government deterring Ebola patients from seeking treatment?
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Tuesday
Oct 2014
Posted by Tom Pride in hopeless naivety
(not satire – it’s the Cameron government)

In an effort to outflank Farage, the Cameron government announced in July that all non-EU visitors to the UK will be charged 150% of the normal fees to use the NHS:

“Patients from outside the EU to be charged 150% of the cost of treatment in the NHS.“

But yesterday the government announced they were advising non-EU visitors to voluntarily contact the NHS if they develop symptoms of Ebola while in the UK:

“Passengers to be told to make contact with the NHS should they develop Ebola symptoms.“

The Health Secretary Jeremy Hunt said he hoped travellers from those countries would “self-present” to the authorities if they developed any symptoms of illness.

In other words, the Cameron government is hoping possible Ebola patients will voluntarily contact the NHS if they have symptoms, while at the same time threatening them with having to pay 150% of the fees for their treatment if they do.

Anybody else see the serious – and possibly extremely dangerous – flaw in the government’s plans?

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Cameron is putting the entire UK at risk just to win back a few votes from UKIP

It is difficult to get money out of a penniless corpse!

Manuel.

You should know the answer.

What are the levels of oil level imports into the UK and other EU countries now and compared 2008,9,10,11,12,13,14 ?

Heard an interesting comment earlier to-day suggesting that Russia won't cut the supplies this winter to the old soviet blocks, because of falling prices and they need the cash.

Every cloud has ===========

Max.

Please an old man, how old are you?

Just inquisitive.

I know Cynic is getting closer to 70 and still 10 years younger than Haze!

English Votes for Englislh Laws! YES! Bring it on :0)

The Conservatives may introduce legislation for English votes for English laws in this parliament and let Labour vote it down. It will produce another distinguishing aspect of the Conservatives in the GE.

Good to see Gordon attending Parliament, is that more than twice this year now. Well worth his salary (not).

Prime Ministers Questions should be lively tomorrow :0)

Cameron is putting the entire UK at risk just to win back a few votes from UKIP

The anti tory brigade are really clutching at straws at suggesting that they would charge suspected EBOLA or infected EBOLA victims for treating them. That article is irresponsible

Its here Alders..........

NHS to charge non-EU patients 150% of cost of treatment
Department of Health says charges will save NHS up to £500m a year and prevent 'abuse' of system by visitors

Haroon Siddique
The Guardian, Monday 14 July 2014 13.48 BST

http://www.theguardian.com/society/2014/jul/14/nhs-charge-non-eu-patients-150-per-cent-cost-treatment

That doesn't say EBOLA victims or any outbreak that would be a grave [pun] danger to the public that would be insane to do that

But why didnt Hunt say any fee would be waived when he made this statement......

"But yesterday the government announced they were advising non-EU visitors to voluntarily contact the NHS if they develop symptoms of Ebola while in the UK:

“Passengers to be told to make contact with the NHS should they develop Ebola symptoms.“

The Health Secretary Jeremy Hunt said he hoped travellers from those countries would “self-present” to the authorities if they developed any symptoms of illness.".................. ends

If they can say that 70, 000 plus people are fit for work only for them to die within weeks of finding them fit for work I wouldnt put anything past this present Tory Government.

fred asks - What are the levels of oil level imports into the UK and other EU countries now and compared 2008,9,10,11,12,13,14 ?


i have absolutely no idea at all, but it can't be hard to find out
however, this is why there is now such huge interest in shale gas/oil and fracking for same
nor should it be forgotten that only about 40% (or less?) of an oil reservoir are recovered with current technology .... this will assuredly be exploited in time, which is why there was (at one time) such an interest in companies like Corac

Yep but hes pointing at overall demand Cyners,.

Dont forget we are still 10% off highs before the crisis began, hence supply greater than demand and falling prices.

Not just here but the World over.

Deflation creeps up you far faster than you think, whoooooooooooooosh and its present.

I believe Hilary was wrong to just dismiss it like she did yesterday.

sorry; in that case i missed the rest of the post .... it just happened to open there when i turned on this morning

lower oil prices
it's summer so demand is always lower
us is now a nett exporter
saudi in particular has no interest in lowering its production
$ is significantly stronger



however, i certainly don't like the feel of the chemical markets at the moment
traffic has nose-dived in the last few months

this is not only due to slackening demand in china, though in truth its economy still thrives big time, but the effect of the war in syria/iraq has also had a significant impact, in particular on business sentiment

as for the eurozone, i have never believed germany's assertions that all was hunky-dory, and that is now being admitted ..... france of course is close to being a basket case

uk for its part, is currently defying the odds, but it cannot do so indefinitely