goldfinger
- 09 Jun 2005 12:25
Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).
Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.
cheers GF.
goldfinger
- 15 Oct 2014 16:43
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Well Call Me Dave is taking it seriously, hes thinking over Frauds position.
Another Hunt then.
doodlebug4
- 15 Oct 2014 16:45
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Fred, my wine bill varies each month. I've stopped drinking really expensive wine now as some of the prices are just silly. I found a lovely Bergerac when I visited France in August which was the equivalent of around £6, but couldn' t find a cheap way of shipping over a lorry load!
goldfinger
- 15 Oct 2014 16:46
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Shortie yep Gold is looking to be the real deal at last. Might be tempted myself.
goldfinger
- 15 Oct 2014 16:50
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IDS playing tricks again...............whats new.
400,000 ESA Claims Disappear due to DWP trickery
ESA on the rise: Figures from NIESR’s Jonathan Portes show the number of people receiving ESA is increasing – but there are none for those in the ‘mandatory reconsideration’ queue and it seems 400,000 claims awaiting assessment have gone unrecorded.
Vox Political is grateful to Same Difference for bringing this article by Work Test Whistleblower to our attention:
The old men of Caxton House might seem unworldly, but they know how to pull off a conjuring trick: they’ve made 400,000 claims vanish into thin air.
The Atos bottleneck has led to a huge number of jobless people getting stuck in welfare limbo (or “limboland” as IDS said in the House the other day). They wait…and wait…and wait for their ESA claims to be assessed.
In the meantime, how does the DWP classify them, in its official stats?
JSA claimants?
Unemployed?
ESA recipients?
Employees?
Answer: none of the above.
They aren’t recorded anywhere in the data fed to the press.
Read the rest of the article on the Work Test Whistleblower site.
goldfinger
- 15 Oct 2014 16:53
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FRED how do they manage to keep lying to the press?????????????
The DWP is corrupt from top to bottom.
Cant see how even manuel can argue with this and the above post.
Fred1new
- 15 Oct 2014 16:57
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I am not sure why, but I cringed with a little shudder when I hear or see Ester!
Normally I have a strong stomach.
Mind Cruella (Theresa) has the same effect.
Perhaps, I am deep down frighten of women or what they can do to you!
8-)
doodlebug4
- 15 Oct 2014 17:04
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Latest figures from Children in Need show that even before this year's appeal it has an £87,705,000 cash pile
The BBC will soon be getting out the begging bowl again for Children in Need, but the charity is at the moment flush with cash. In the small print of its latest figures, it discloses that it has an astonishing £87,705,000 stashed away in bank accounts and other investments.
A spokesman for the corporation sees nothing wrong in sitting on quite such a huge sum. “BBC Children in Need typically awards grants over a three year period. Money is released on a quarterly basis as projects demonstrate the impact they are having on young lives,” he says.
“The level of our investments reflects the record amounts raised in the charity’s appeals over the last two years and thus our ability to award record amounts to change young lives.”
Daily Telegraph
Fred1new
- 15 Oct 2014 17:10
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GF.
I agree with your reading of the figures.
DB4.
There are some very drinkable wines at low prices.
Unfortunately there is junk at high and low prices.
I tend to drink plonk and in an attempt to not routinely finish the bottle, Recently I bough some boxes, hoping to have just one two or three glasses a night. Some have been very enjoyable, others almost put me off drinking, after 55 years of steadily imbibing.
Some of these boxes are said to have an "open life" of up to 2 months.
Don't think that is accurate as I have made Beef Bourguignon to-day to use up some I had open for 3weeks.
Hope it hasn't spoilt the meat.
The attraction of the boxes is that when I return from France the boxes are easy to store in the van when I am travelling!
goldfinger
- 15 Oct 2014 17:12
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Freud should be sacked for saying disabled workers are “not worth the full wage” 15/10/2014
Freud – made a disastrous comment at the Conservative Party conference.
At Prime Minister’s Questions today (October 15), he was revealed to have said on September 30: “There is a group… where actually… they’re not worth the full wage and actually I’m going to go and think about that particular issue, whether there is something we can do nationally, and without distorting the whole thing, which actually if someone wants to work for £2 an hour, and it’s working can we actually” [make it possible for them to do so].
Labour leader Ed Miliband, challenging David Cameron to act on the remarks, said they represented the Tories’ “worst instincts”.
Cameron’s response – that these “were not the views of anyone in government” – was appallingly weak. Clearly they were: Lord Freud is, after all, a member of the government.
Commentators across the UK, watching the exchange on TV or the Internet, were quick to comment on the fact that Iain Duncan Smith, Secretary of State for Work and Pensions and Freud’s boss, was seen scuttling out of the House of Commons before PMQs ended.
Fred1new
- 15 Oct 2014 18:04
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Do you think Cameron has made another Freudian slip and exposed himself for what he really stands for?
Fred1new
- 15 Oct 2014 18:06
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GF,
Didn't this government cut back on REMPLOY?
goldfinger
- 15 Oct 2014 18:26
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Most certainly not just cut back but have binned it all together. Small pockets are being left to run down.
Shame on them, Shame on Camoron.
goldfinger
- 15 Oct 2014 18:27
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Esther McVey on Freud comments about disabled people
4 hours ago
A Conservative minster said Lord Freud's comments about wages for disabled people "will haunt" him, and they were not party policy.
Employment Minister Esther McVey told the Daily Politics: "I cannot justify those words, they were wrong."
She added that the government spent £50m annually on supporting disabled people, when she spoke to Andrew Neil on the Daily Politics about her work.
MaxK
- 15 Oct 2014 18:30
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If Britain is booming, why is the deficit growing?
Britain's economy is booming – but tax receipts aren’t, forcing the Chancellor to borrow yet more. Here is the Treasury’s dilemma
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/personalfinance/tax/11162272/If-Britain-is-booming-why-is-the-deficit-growing.html
goldfinger
- 15 Oct 2014 18:30
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The roof is falling in on the Nasty Party and the corrupt DPW.
This just the start and Mcvey is going all out to save her own neck with the deflection comments made above.
Soon we will have the death statistics and this time the Right Wing Press wont be able to cover this up.
goldfinger
- 15 Oct 2014 18:34
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Max 400,000 people not accounted for in todays unemployment statistics.
MaxK
- 15 Oct 2014 18:35
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It doesent surprise me gf...none of the stats are massage free, they're all bent!
goldfinger
- 15 Oct 2014 18:35
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Update - Labour lead at 4
by YouGov in Politics
Wed October 15, 2014 6 a.m. BST
Latest YouGov / The Sun results 14th Oct - Con 30%, Lab 34%, LD 8%, UKIP 18%
goldfinger
- 15 Oct 2014 18:37
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Ipsos MORI/Standard – CON 30, LAB 33, LDEM 8, UKIP 16
goldfinger
- 15 Oct 2014 18:45
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Disabled People Not Worth Minimum Wage Says Lord Fraud, Time For This Nasty censored Clown To Go
Posted on October 15, 2014 by johnny void | 49 comments
“Nearly everything I’ve done has been total chaos.”
Comedy toff and Minister for Welfare Reform Lord Fraud stopped being funny a long time ago. Of all the blundering censored idiots in the DWP, this failed banker, who cost investors millions due to a series of bungled deals, has shown the true face of the out of touch gilded elite that dominate all of the main political parties.
This is the man who thinks people queue up in foodbanks just for a laugh and not because they are hungry. The same prick who threatened every Women’s Refuge in the country with closure and wanted to charge the very poorest benefit claimants to have banks manage ther personal finances. The clown who doesn’t even know how much the dole actually pays despite being in charge of reforming it.
His recent comments at the Tory Party Conference, where he agreed that disabled workers are not worth the minimum wage, are a new low If he stays in his job after this we will know the truth about attitudes towards sickness and disability at the DWP, – as if we didn’t already. They are not just ignorant about disabled people’s lives, out of touch and incompetant. They actively believe that disabled people are worth less than non-disabled people. That they don’t deserve the same rights as non-disabled people. That if you are born or become sick or disabled, then you are a sub-class who should be forced into a lifetime of poverty carrying out below minimum wage work. Is it any wonder that unpaid work is fast becoming the new segregation for many disabled workers?
Fraud revealed his rancid opinions at a conference fringe meetings when utter censored, and Tory Councillor, David Scott (@David ScottW) said: “I have a number of mentally damaged individuals, who to be quite frank aren’t worth the Minimum Wage.”
Lord Fraud agreed saying: “Now, there is a small… there is a group, and I know exactly who you mean, where actually as you say they’re not worth the full wage and actually I’m going to go and think about that particular issue, whether there is something we can do nationally, and without distorting the whole thing, which actually if someone wants to work for £2 an hour, and it’s working can we actually…”
The comments came to light after Ed Miliband challenged David Cameron about Lord Fraud’s comments at Prime Minister’s Question Time today. What Miliband didn’t mention is that this very same bastard was at the heart of Labour’s own Welfare Reforms such as the shambolic and cruel Atos run Work Capability Assessment.
Fraud enjoyed impoverishing sick and disabled people so much that when the Tory Party weren’t elected he crossed the floor and joined them so he could carry on. He has been ususually frank about his incompetence, once admitting in an interview that: “Nearly everything I’ve done has been total chaos.” But he is a nasty piece of shit as well. In a just and moral society, both Lord Fraud and his boss Iain Duncan Smith would be put of trial for the horrific suffering their policies have caused. In the society we’ve got the best we can hope for is that he’s shuffled off to one of his mansions and kept out of public life permanently. It can’t censored happen soon enough.