Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).

Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.

cheers GF.

DB - You have to also remember that Gordon Brown although he had the title of PM and assumed the position of PM was never elected by the people. Also his and Blairs handbags at 10 feet commotion didn't do his chances any good along with his attitude.

That is very true Shortie and neither did the fact that he forgot he still had his microphone switched on when he called that woman a -------------------- and it was on all the television networks about five minutes later!

Interesting odds.

Wavy Dave had better get down there quick if he wants the Kippers to win.


UKIP 2/7

Conservatives 10/3

Labour 33

Greens 250

Democrats 500

strood by-election odds i assume

Apparently.....Richard Madely has warned about : somebody wanting to rape Judy Finegan : Jesus...crikey!...........................................................................................................................................................................................................must be insane !.....

the party who states for real that they will get immigrants down and out will take the biggest votes all my family and thousands of friends want out of the stinking eu and get immigrants out

I think it was threats of rape against his daughter.

Look at the TWIT thread required field.

DB, I'd forgotten that one, Gordon later went back to see her to apologise in person, but the damage was already done.

Strange man Mr Brown but I can not forgive his decision to sell the countries gold reserves at rock bottom prices. He should have been publicly flogged for it!

Also wasn't it Mr Brown that changed the Tier1 capital ratio on banks so they could lend more which ultimately over cooked our property market and caused the collapse of Northern Rock. If this was never done Northern Rock would have had sufficient reserves to have maybe survived the initial credit crunch and seen it forced to merge with another bank.

Shortie what about Thatcher wasting 20 times more in Oil Tax revenue from the North Sea and selling off the countries housing stock 2/3rds which is in the hands of Asian Landlords now.!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Sad thing was that she was a Labour supporter Shortie and was really upset when the tape was replayed to her. He may well get publicly flogged at some point in his career!

And dont forget Osbourne was on the brink of Buying the Coop bank from his Eton chums.
What a mess that would have been.

The only good thing that Brown did was stop Blair taking us into the Euro. Brown used the treasury model to prove that we would be better off outside the Euro.

With these track records it's no wonder UKIP the party of change WITHOUT the track record of fooking up is doing so well in the polls...

Today

http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2014/oct/16/ukip-efdd-group-collapse-brussels

Ukip to lose funding worth £1m as Farage’s European group collapses

Resignation of Iveta Grigule, a Latvian member, means group is too small to qualify for official status

A fantastic flow chart here from twitter.

Farage accused Martin Schulz, the president of the European parliament, of acting as the head of a “banana republic” after he said that pressure was placed on Grigule to stand down if she wanted to lead a parliamentary delegation to Kazakhstan.

The Ukip leader said: “It is clear that the European parliament does not follow its long-term practice of sharing delegation and chairmanship positions in a fair manner according to the D’Hondt system [of selection]. If we are correct in our understanding about the events, President Schulz would be more suited to being the president of a parliament in a banana republic. It would seem he has exceeded his role that should apply to a neutral chairman or president of a parliament. I believe this is an example of political bias on an extraordinary scale.”

http://order-order.com/2014/10/16/charity-condemning-freud-packed-with-labour-supporters/

Guido has found more from Mencap on whether or not some disabled people should be exempt from the minimum wage. Here they are in February 2000 once again backing the very idea Lord Freud has got in so much trouble over:

“The minimum wage has helped many people with learning disabilities. But people who have severe learning disabilities are also employed, even though they may have a productivity rate of 30% of the average. An employer may say that they will pay someone £15 a week for doing 15 hours work – and generally everyone is happy with this. The person with learning disabilities isn’t excluded from a working environment, and gets to go on works dos and generally join in with the team. And it’s good for the rest of the team too. Unfortunately, if employers have to pay the minimum wage, they may have to let these valuable members of their staff go.”

Under Labour, Mencap used to support the proposal. Yesterday Mencap described it as “disgusting”. A cynic might say their condemnation of Lord Freud was political…

And what about Scope, another disability charity? They were consulted on the 2003 Labour government document backing a policy more draconian that what Freud proposed. Yesterday they said Freud’s comments were “unacceptable”. Surely a reaction completely unrelated to their patron being Cherie Blair, their trustees including former Labour adviser Agnes Fletcher and Brent Labour member Jacqui Penalver, and their Director of External Affairs Mark Atkinson being a former Labour candidate. Not like a charity to be overtly partisan…

Year 2000 to 2003,!!!!!! old historical rubbish.

One as to take this incident with Fraud and place it alongside present government attitudes/policy to the disabled and Welfare.

The present DWP is rotten from top to bottom and the charities know that.

Fraud cannot be seperated as a one off incident.