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THE TALK TO YOURSELF THREAD. (NOWT)     

goldfinger - 09 Jun 2005 12:25

Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).

Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.

cheers GF.

MaxK - 17 Oct 2014 13:55 - 47907 of 81564

But what is the ultimate aim?

cynic - 17 Oct 2014 14:04 - 47908 of 81564

for whom?
for saudi, to keep control of opec and to try to damage iraq, iran and russia as much as pos seems a simple bet

MaxK - 17 Oct 2014 14:34 - 47909 of 81564

Seems as good a reason as any.

cynic - 17 Oct 2014 14:38 - 47910 of 81564

i said "simple" because it never ever is quite that straightforward

MaxK - 17 Oct 2014 14:45 - 47911 of 81564

Nothing ever is.

goldfinger - 17 Oct 2014 15:19 - 47912 of 81564

Doodlebug well you havent answered the question wether you are Christopher Holden so people can only assume that you are!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! it as been asked twice as per above.

So lets open the link................

Dan replys

Bit rich coming from the king of pump and dump!!


Exposed! The Multi-millionaire. Super-Injunction? SEE YOU IN COURT!
by Brokerman


Exposed Christopher Holden lives in Bury Greater Manchester.
Welcome to the sick world of Bury Grammar school educated Christopher Holden the 38-year-old North of England based Multi-Millionaire professional Trader who has over a considerable period of time posted disgraceful, abusive comments & sent abusive emails using a myriad of fake, false identities. One of Holden's wheezes is to sign up the site admin for sexually explicit material. I'll just go through some of the known false emails and chat identities, (there's just too many to list so I'll write a dozen or so). Holden has over 10 false accounts on ADVFN with screen names such as "ralph moat,Junior topinfo, smellyjim, perthglory, Rob74son, bornos47, 1drtli, hectorpl2 & one which says it all about this online creep "bellend2" The creep has had a multitude of fake accounts on Interactive Investor, "Manic Miner" being just one of them & London South East "goinglikearocket" where he conducts his ramping or bashing operations depending on which position he has taken on a stock.
We managed to track, trace & monitor his activities over a considerable period of time helped enormously by the Nina Logan's Facebook account which links directly to many of his family & friends indeed there's even a picture of him on his wife's Facebook account.
One identity which led to the unmasking was that of Nina Logans who contacted the site admin last year pretending to be an irate female. (What a sicko pretending to be a female). Holden had set himself up as a female trader with fake google email account and FINANCIAL CHAT SITE IDENTITIES et al! (ninalogans@google.com) various other email accounts were used, with different slants on the purported sex, ie female evaarmstrong,evaarmstrong444, ninalogans12, ninalogans123, christianholden2000@yahoo.co.uk Holden has also used BT Email accounts and sends his abuse out via A BTINTERNET IP.
Now with this type of whacko you can bet that his abuse of our site is the tip of an iceberg. If you check his BTINTERNET ACCOUNTS & history just what would one find? The loonertick is a serial online nutcase who should be banned from the internet. Yesterday morning he was operating on ADVFN'S Xcite energy Board when a link to the up-coming article was posted Multi-millionaire to be exposed online in 24 Hours!. Holden then disappeared for over 4 hours to enlist the services of a solicitor (Aughton Ainsworth INTERNATIONAL LAW FIRM FurnessHouse FurnessQuays Salford Quays Manchester M50 3XZ) who contacted the site admin threatening a Super-Injunction. We responded to them & passed it to our legal representative. Holden's solicitor states that his client apologised for the comments in Feb 2011 & has not visited the site since which is a complete & utter lie. A quick check of his isp service provider history & logs will reveal the tissue of lies that Holden now seeks to maintain in an effort to deflect away from his nefarious online activities.
Holden is nothing more than the sum of his parts, A NASTY, DEVIOUS CHARACTER who has now been exposed online for all to see. As for his solicitor & threats of Super-Injunctions I say this to you directly; BRING IT ON!
Viva!

Dan!

Fred1new - 17 Oct 2014 15:19 - 47913 of 81564

Max!


OH I don't know!

8-)

goldfinger - 17 Oct 2014 15:24 - 47914 of 81564

Neither do I but the best rat catcher on advfn Love Rat points out that doodle bug is this Holden guy.

cynic - 17 Oct 2014 15:25 - 47915 of 81564

oh .... wrong holden .... i thought sticky meant PTH

goldfinger - 17 Oct 2014 15:28 - 47916 of 81564

No.

goldfinger - 17 Oct 2014 15:58 - 47917 of 81564

PAY EVERYONE THE SAME MINIMUM WAGE, SAY VOTERS
by William Jordan in Front Page and Politics
Fri October 17, 2014 10:05 a.m. BST You Gov

Most people reject the idea that different levels of minimum wage should be paid to different groups, including people with and without disabilities

Welfare minister Lord Freud has stirred cross-party outrage with comments suggesting that people with disabilities may not be “worth” the full minimum wage. On Wednesday the Conservative peer apologised, calling the remarks “foolish and stupid”.

YouGov’s latest polling for the Times Red Box delves into the question of whether the same minimum wage ought to apply to different groups, and finds few voters prepared to pay any of them at different levels.

In the case of people with disabilities, four in five (79%) reject the idea of setting a different minimum wage to people without them, while only 12% support it. Similarly, 80% are against and 12% in favour of paying people above and below the retirement age differently, and voters are almost uniformly opposed to varying the minimum wage according to gender (91-3%).

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There is little variation in the opinions of Conservative, Labour, Liberal Democrat or UKIP voters on these three groups.

Around three in ten do think it is appropriate to pay people above and below the age of 21 or people living in areas with higher and lower living costs at different levels, but twice as many think it shouldn’t be done even for these groups.

Currently the minimum wage is £6.50 per hour.

Lord Freud’s comments were made at a fringe meeting at the Conservative party conference. He had been addressing the question posed by a Conservative councillor of how to deal with cases of people with disabilities who want to work, but “can’t find people who are willing to pay [them] the minimum wage.”

TANKER - 17 Oct 2014 16:21 - 47918 of 81564

if they all got the living wage most people would lose out lose of benefits and you can not claim for any thing no help with bills c/t new boiler nothing

that is why the con are bringing in the new pension .

Shortie - 17 Oct 2014 16:31 - 47919 of 81564

It used to be that when you were young you worked for less than an experienced older person, this helped ensure that young people could compete in the market as they cost the employer less... With the minimum wage this youth advantage has been removed.. If your employing at the minimum wage and your choice is a 21 year old with no experience or a 31 year old with 10 years experience and good references who would you choose....?? Now is it any surprise that we have a generation of youths out of work coinciding with when the minimum wage was bought in.

goldfinger - 17 Oct 2014 16:42 - 47920 of 81564

I dont employ people under those circumstances Shortie. I have over 300 employees working for me.

I have friends in business who dont either.

We run a age increment salary policy a bit like the Civil Service and Local Government. 3 increments not 5 0r 6 like above.

If what you state is happening its a total disgrace.

Cyners you wouldnt pay the same for a 21 year old as you would an experienced man would you?

Fred1new - 17 Oct 2014 16:45 - 47921 of 81564

When I was a boy(16) in my holidays I use to do labouring jobs for "pocket money".

What annoyed me initially, as I was a big strong lad and "shifting" more than some around me that I was paid at lower rate (boy's rate) and complain to my father about it.

He agreed, but said it was bit unfair, but added that "if you got to the age of 50-60-65 and were worked out (common when I was a boy) would you like to take home less pay each week and show your pay slip to your wife". (And finished with the word "dignity".)

That is what Fraud seemed to have missed in his ill chosen words. (Many in more private conversation would chose "similar" words, but it is the lack awareness and sensitivity to possible feelings of others when supposed to be dealing with their problems is his real and this government's problem.)

goldfinger - 17 Oct 2014 16:50 - 47922 of 81564

Thats an excelent reply Fred.

Fraud used the word WORTH as if people where just commodities.

TANKER - 17 Oct 2014 16:58 - 47923 of 81564

gf keep up the good work will post from Portugal or were ever I end up

goldfinger - 17 Oct 2014 16:58 - 47924 of 81564

Pay black people £2 per hour as that’s all they’re worth? Now you get why Freud has to be sacked – SPeye Joe 16/10/2014

130927freudboilyourhead.jpg?resize=529%2The scurrilous and offensive remarks of Lord Freud over people with disabilities should have seen him sacked. Last night on BBC Question Time he was defended to the hilt in a disgraceful example of people not getting what he said, writes Joe Halewood in his SPeye Joe blog.

The simplest way to GET what he said is to subititute “black” for “disabled” and THEN you get it so below I have simple cut and pasted my blog from Wednesday with that change

It reads:

Lord Freud, said by many to be the architect of the bedroom tax and some wider welfare reform policies has been recorded saying black people are NOT WORTH THE MINIMUM WAGE of £6.50 per hour and should be paid £2 PER HOUR FOR THE WORK THEY DO.

Read the rest on SPeye Joe.

The view of this blog is that last night’s Question Time was an hour-long parade of senility and stupidity. You can work out for yourself who among the guests, chairman and audience displayed the symptoms of either condition.

goldfinger - 17 Oct 2014 17:02 - 47925 of 81564

TANKER yes you look after yourself and your good lady partner. Make sure to wash your hands in the bogs and try to eat at home rather than a cafe/Restaurant.

Have a good time old bud.

ps, dont fly with Flybe, cheap budget Fred Carno type airplanes with Trolly Dollys who look like they are Lady Sloss on a bad day.

doodlebug4 - 17 Oct 2014 17:27 - 47926 of 81564

Tanker, you will be perfectly fine with FLYBE I have flown with them and they are excellent - just remember to wash your hands after using the toilet as I know you are concerned about catching Ebola. However I can put your mind at rest about Ebola as our PM, "call me Dave" is bestride the world stage telling everyone and his dog that this country is leading the world in helping to contain this virus - which I'm really pleased about as we, the taxpayers, seem to be throwing £120million plus everything except the kitchen sink at it. And I say this as someone who will no doubt vote Conservative at the next GE.

I'm glad gf has me on filter as he presumably cannot read this, otherwise we would get another 20 posts in response. In fact I've lost track of all the posters gf has, or hasn't got on filter. Haystack I think is on filter, cynic was on filter but he seems to be off filter, Chris is deffo on filter, Hilary has never been on filter - even if she refers to him as "fishfinger" - probably because she is obviously a woman with brains which gf no doubt finds a real turn-on. Have I missed out anyone else?
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