Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).

Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.

cheers GF.

The EU referendum bill passed its second reading unopposed in the commons with 283 voting in favour and none against.

Cant be worth a toss then.

Labour stayed away mostly. It is their intention to stop it in the Lords. The bill, which is backed by the Conservative Party leadership, would create a legally-binding commitment to a referendum. There were calls in the debate to use the Parliament Act to force it into legislation if the Lords reject it.

UKIP have been given a wake up call in Thurrock, losing heavily to Labour in a council by-election last night. Despite constituency polling putting UKIP’s parliamentary candidate Tim Aker in first place in the seat, Labour won West Thurrock and South Stifford by a thumping 50% to UKIP’s 35%.

http://order-order.com/2014/10/17/eagle-crash-landed-watch-question-time-audience-turn-on-labour-over-freud/

Angela Eagle assumed she would automatically carry the Question Time audience with her as they discussed Lord Freud last night. Instead the room turned on Labour, jeering and heckling, coming down on the side of the stitched up welfare minister:

One audience member called Labour’s position “extremely disingenuous”, another was applauded by the whole room for calling out their “hypocritical point-scoring”, describing them as “disgusting”. Another said “the smirk on her face” showed Eagle knew she was telling fibs. If Labour can’t convince even the audience of Question Time, it suggests their attack on Freud may not have cut through as well as they’d hoped…

HAYS read this and a,lso read the You Gove Poll today re- to minimum wage......

Pay black people £2 per hour as that’s all they’re worth? Now you get why Freud has to be sacked – SPeye Joe 16/10/2014

The scurrilous and offensive remarks of Lord Freud over people with disabilities should have seen him sacked. Last night on BBC Question Time he was defended to the hilt in a disgraceful example of people not getting what he said, writes Joe Halewood in his SPeye Joe blog.

The simplest way to GET what he said is to subititute “black” for “disabled” and THEN you get it so below I have simple cut and pasted my blog from Wednesday with that change

It reads:

Lord Freud, said by many to be the architect of the bedroom tax and some wider welfare reform policies has been recorded saying black people are NOT WORTH THE MINIMUM WAGE of £6.50 per hour and should be paid £2 PER HOUR FOR THE WORK THEY DO.

Read the rest on SPeye Joe.

The view of this blog is that last night’s Question Time was an hour-long parade of senility and stupidity. You can work out for yourself who among the guests, chairman and audience displayed the symptoms of either condition.

Haystack, you are obviously off filter as gf is expecting a reply.

I think Baby Oleg has Ebola as he keeps sneezing on the compare the markets ads. It's all Sergei's fault for taking him to Africa to discover his roots.

Max.

Be careful with the Kleenex.

DB4 will probably expect you to wash it, iron and package it before you return it to him.

Anyway they are probably already used.

PAY EVERYONE THE SAME MINIMUM WAGE, SAY VOTERS
by William Jordan in Front Page and Politics
Fri October 17, 2014 10:05 a.m. BST You Gov

Most people reject the idea that different levels of minimum wage should be paid to different groups, including people with and without disabilities

Welfare minister Lord Freud has stirred cross-party outrage with comments suggesting that people with disabilities may not be “worth” the full minimum wage. On Wednesday the Conservative peer apologised, calling the remarks “foolish and stupid”.

YouGov’s latest polling for the Times Red Box delves into the question of whether the same minimum wage ought to apply to different groups, and finds few voters prepared to pay any of them at different levels.

In the case of people with disabilities, four in five (79%) reject the idea of setting a different minimum wage to people without them, while only 12% support it. Similarly, 80% are against and 12% in favour of paying people above and below the retirement age differently, and voters are almost uniformly opposed to varying the minimum wage according to gender (91-3%).



There is little variation in the opinions of Conservative, Labour, Liberal Democrat or UKIP voters on these three groups.

Around three in ten do think it is appropriate to pay people above and below the age of 21 or people living in areas with higher and lower living costs at different levels, but twice as many think it shouldn’t be done even for these groups.

Currently the minimum wage is £6.50 per hour.

Lord Freud’s comments were made at a fringe meeting at the Conservative party conference. He had been addressing the question posed by a Conservative councillor of how to deal with cases of people with disabilities who want to work, but “can’t find people who are willing to pay [them] the minimum wage.”

I have gf on filter for some time now, so I am blissfully unaware of his expectations. I doubt that his request for a reply is is based upon anything sensible.

It gets boring on here sometimes, I do my best to lighten things up but it seems to sail over some heads. At least you seem to have a sense of humour Fred, as does Max and Haystack and Hilary and ExecLine - have I missed anyone out?

Fred no doubt doodlebug(filtered) is trying his usual trick of trying to get everyone on side, Ive seen it so many times before and seen just what a pompous ignorant weak personality he is.

But for anyone with doubts Ill just post up earlier what other posters are saying about his multi handles across various boards and he didnt even deny the post by Dan Levi.......

you make your own minds up............

Doodlebug well you havent answered the question wether you are Christopher Holden so people can only assume that you are!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! it as been asked twice as per above.

So lets open the link................

Dan replys

Bit rich coming from the king of pump and dump!!


Exposed! The Multi-millionaire. Super-Injunction? SEE YOU IN COURT!
by Brokerman


Exposed Christopher Holden lives in Bury Greater Manchester.
Welcome to the sick world of Bury Grammar school educated Christopher Holden the 38-year-old North of England based Multi-Millionaire professional Trader who has over a considerable period of time posted disgraceful, abusive comments & sent abusive emails using a myriad of fake, false identities. One of Holden's wheezes is to sign up the site admin for sexually explicit material. I'll just go through some of the known false emails and chat identities, (there's just too many to list so I'll write a dozen or so). Holden has over 10 false accounts on ADVFN with screen names such as "ralph moat,Junior topinfo, smellyjim, perthglory, Rob74son, bornos47, 1drtli, hectorpl2 & one which says it all about this online creep "bellend2" The creep has had a multitude of fake accounts on Interactive Investor, "Manic Miner" being just one of them & London South East "goinglikearocket" where he conducts his ramping or bashing operations depending on which position he has taken on a stock.
We managed to track, trace & monitor his activities over a considerable period of time helped enormously by the Nina Logan's Facebook account which links directly to many of his family & friends indeed there's even a picture of him on his wife's Facebook account.
One identity which led to the unmasking was that of Nina Logans who contacted the site admin last year pretending to be an irate female. (What a sicko pretending to be a female). Holden had set himself up as a female trader with fake google email account and FINANCIAL CHAT SITE IDENTITIES et al! (ninalogans@google.com) various other email accounts were used, with different slants on the purported sex, ie female evaarmstrong,evaarmstrong444, ninalogans12, ninalogans123, christianholden2000@yahoo.co.uk Holden has also used BT Email accounts and sends his abuse out via A BTINTERNET IP.
Now with this type of whacko you can bet that his abuse of our site is the tip of an iceberg. If you check his BTINTERNET ACCOUNTS & history just what would one find? The loonertick is a serial online nutcase who should be banned from the internet. Yesterday morning he was operating on ADVFN'S Xcite energy Board when a link to the up-coming article was posted Multi-millionaire to be exposed online in 24 Hours!. Holden then disappeared for over 4 hours to enlist the services of a solicitor (Aughton Ainsworth INTERNATIONAL LAW FIRM FurnessHouse FurnessQuays Salford Quays Manchester M50 3XZ) who contacted the site admin threatening a Super-Injunction. We responded to them & passed it to our legal representative. Holden's solicitor states that his client apologised for the comments in Feb 2011 & has not visited the site since which is a complete & utter lie. A quick check of his isp service provider history & logs will reveal the tissue of lies that Holden now seeks to maintain in an effort to deflect away from his nefarious online activities.
Holden is nothing more than the sum of his parts, A NASTY, DEVIOUS CHARACTER who has now been exposed online for all to see. As for his solicitor & threats of Super-Injunctions I say this to you directly; BRING IT ON!
Viva!

Dan!

Doodlebug4 ARE YOU CHRISTOPHER HOLDEN????????????????

Doodlebug4 are you the poster using the handle Stigologist, ??????????????

Doodlebug4..... do you deny you have posted disgraceful, abusive comments & sent abusive emails using a myriad of fake, false identities. (One of Holden's wheezes is to sign up the site admin for sexually explicit material.)?????????????????????????????

NO ANSWER, speaks a lot about this sorry weak individual attention seeker.

Seems to me you require urgent psychological help and very quickly.

Goodnight and sleep well if you can.

Haystack, if you can be bothered since you have gf on filter and I'm not interested in what he says - and this is a serious question btw - please explain to me why Cameron is pumping so much money into Sierra Leone? I really cannot figure out if it's an attempt to divert attention from the problems at home, or if he just likes being perceived as a big player on the world stage. As a Conservative supporter I must admit I'm at a bit of a loss with this.

Scraping the barrel a bit Haystack, and you failed to mention that your bloke came third...and the Dim/Libs didnt even bother.



News

By-election result




17 October 2014




The West Thurrock and South Stifford by-election held on Thursday, 16 October, saw a 23.9 per cent turnout and the seat held by Labour.

The by-election followed the untimely death of former Thurrock Council Leader, Cllr Andy Smith in August.

Result:

Terry Brookes, Labour, 903

Russell Peter Cherry, United Kingdom Independence Party, 621

John Rowles, Conservative, 271

Majority 282

Turnout 23.9 per cent


https://www.thurrock.gov.uk/news/elections-and-voting/by-election-result

The Ebola crisis is very serious. The UN said three days ago that we have 60 days to get it under control, based on the current rate of spread. The UN said yesterday that it was surprised by the lack of international effort being deployed in West Africa. The World Heath Organisation said yesterday that it had handled the situation badly and made serious mistakes. The health services in the Ebola areas are almost non existent and the spread of the disease is pretty much guaranteed. There has to be major work now to improve the infrastructure.

Max the bottom of the barrel is all Hays as left to clutch at, lets face it a poster who lines himself up with the DISGRACED POSTER DOOODLEBUG4, as got to be desperate, very desperate.