Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).

Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.

cheers GF.

It is difficult to stop them travelling. The borders of the countries are not secure. You can't isolate several complete countries.

I did think it would be impossible to carry on a civilised debate on this thread without constant interruptions. So much for the supposed use of the filter facility.

Doodlebug aka Holden digging and digging himself further into a hole. (back on filter)

Doodlebug4 just answer the question everyone wants to know are you the multi handle poster Christopher Holden???????????????????? Its not a trick question.

So why can some countries stop them from travelling and not this country? Is it simply because this country is so lax with border controls?

We don't have direct flights to here. The problem is where people have been before. Other countries are not stopping people either.

The ISIS terrorist are going through Turkey and getting into Europe that way.

Wont be long Im sad to say we will have our first cases.

Thank for that Haystack. I'm sure you have had enough of this now with all the noise going on in the background.

Hays just accept your on a hiding to nothing here, all Doodlebug cares about his the investment he as in FLYBE.

He'l lie through his teeth to try and protect that, hes using you as a pawn and will no doubt be using your quotes to his advantage over the road on advfn at sometime this weekend copying and pasting at will.

Wise up hes a scumster who just looks after nos 1.

Doodlebug4 ARE YOU CHRISTOPHER HOLDEN????????????????
goldfinger Send an email to goldfinger View goldfinger's profile - 17 Oct 2014 20:54 - 47954 of 47984 edit this post

Doodlebug4 are you the poster using the handle Stigologist, ??????????????
goldfinger Send an email to goldfinger View goldfinger's profile - 17 Oct 2014 20:57 - 47955 of 47984 edit this post

Doodlebug4..... do you deny you have posted disgraceful, abusive comments & sent abusive emails using a myriad of fake, false identities. (One of Holden's wheezes is to sign up the site admin for sexually explicit material.)?????????????????????????????

MaxK thanks for your post 47963 - appreciated.

Common sense db, when you find yourself in a hole.....

LOL Max, think about it doodlebug.

Who wants to support a self interested plonker like you who only cares about Nos 1.

Its a shame but society as gone that way since the 1990s, forget your neighbour walk over them in the gutter on the street. Let them die as long as you are OK.

People are fed up with that, they want a more tolerable society and fair society only tonight the FED chief Janet Yelin as spoken about this were she wants income redistributed down to the lower classes.

Cheats like you (doodlebug) will be found out in the end and sympathisers like Max owt to take note.

A cynical stunt that backfired on Labour

By Daily Mail Comment

Published: 01:20, 18 October 2014 | Updated: 01:23, 18 October 2014











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After shrilly demanding the resignation of the welfare minister Lord Freud for causing ‘great offence’ to the disabled, Labour’s Angela Eagle sat back with a smirk and waited for the thunderous applause of the BBC’s Question Time audience on Thursday evening.

It never came. Instead, this political lightweight found herself being bitterly rebuked for the shameless opportunism displayed by Ed Miliband’s party.

One audience member rightly accused Labour of being ‘extremely disingenuous’ in its attacks. Another was cheered loudly for lambasting Red Ed’s ‘disgusting’ and ‘hypocritical point-scoring’.



Angela Eagle found herself being bitterly rebuked for the shameless opportunism displayed by Ed Miliband's party
















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Angela Eagle found herself being bitterly rebuked for the shameless opportunism displayed by Ed Miliband's party

Yes, Lord Freud’s language was terribly misjudged – given the choice again, he would surely rephrase his comment that some disabled workers are not ‘worth’ the minimum wage.

But his point, as the public understood, was that it is neither compassionate nor fair to the disabled if the requirement for employers to pay £6.50 an hour is depriving them of the chance to find work.





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Indeed, far from seeking to pay them £2 an hour – as Labour disgracefully suggested – Lord Freud was debating the case for the State to top up their wages, so they had the dignity and fulfilment of a job.

Labour, which in 2003 proposed paying people with mental illness £4 a day, was not alone in feigning outrage.

Predictably, Nick Clegg claimed to find the remarks ‘distressing’, while charities which had advocated a similar policy to Lord Freud in the past also piled in.

Indeed, it is ever harder to distinguish the outpourings of some charities from official Labour Party propaganda.

Yet it is Mr Miliband who should be most ashamed – not least over the way he cynically kept quiet about Lord Freud’s secretly-taped remarks for two weeks, then deployed them at Prime Minister’s Questions to try to detract from Wednesday’s hugely positive jobs news.

The great pity is that, when the story broke, the Tory high command’s response was to denounce Lord Freud – rather than defend a decent man who had fallen prey to a dirty and unprincipled Labour stunt.

Truly, the behaviour of everybody involved in this offers a depressing insight into the shallow posturing that makes up so much of modern politics.





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Euro's long shadow

Last year, when Jose Manuel Barroso declared ‘the threat against the euro has essentially been overcome’, the Mail warned that the European Commission President was terrifyingly deluded.

Now the eurocrats are counting the cost as the fundamentally-flawed currency lurches back towards full-blown crisis.

Prices are rising at the slowest pace since the depths of the global downturn in 2009, fuelling fears that the eurozone is heading for a disastrous bout of deflation – which would make it harder for member states to service their crippling debts.

Unemployment remains unsustainably high with 18.3million out of work – including almost a quarter of under-25s.

Even Germany – badly hit by the ban on exports to Russia – is expected to slip back into recession shortly.

Most alarmingly, Berlin, Paris and Brussels are falling out among themselves, as Greece and France indicate they are no longer prepared to tolerate the austerity demanded by the euro’s German paymasters.

It’s tempting once again to thank our lucky stars that Britain is not part of this disastrous political project.

But, as George Osborne warns, the turmoil in mainland Europe will inevitably cast a pall over the UK economy, hurting our manufacturers and exports.

The Chancellor has done an excellent job in steering Britain towards recovery. But make no mistake: thanks to the continued folly of the euro, the stormiest of seas lie ahead.


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UKIP still at the no MPs won in the GE level.


Update - Labour lead at 1
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Latest YouGov / The Sun results 16th Oct - Con 31%, Lab 32%, LD 8%, UKIP 18%;

MaxK - 17 Oct 2014 21:41 - 47968 of 47990

gf, I hate to tell you, but db is correct about ebola.

You need to stop interaction between infected people...then it will die out.



Sorry Max.

Not quite so simple and the Fruit Bat and its ability to spread the virus, may be one of the ongoing problems of Ebola.


The Fruit bat apparently is main indirect vector.

Able to carry the virus, "not effected by it". spread by faeces, urine and saliva to other products ingested by other animals (Monkeys etc..) (Meat and food.)

Through that chain to humans and thence on!

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I think that vaccine is the future solution, but "hygiene" is the route at the moment with restriction of movement.

Give a thought to what would be the effect of this disease deliberately being loosed into a war zone the problem would be catastrophic.

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That is why it is a INTERNATIONAL PROBLEM and one reason why Europe and USA Etc have to take the responsibility as they do have sophisticated Departments of Health, Hygiene Epidemiology and Tropical Diseases

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Another problem is that although it doesn't seem spread through air and inhalation, there are question marks over whether this has occurred in Rhesus monkeys.

Fred to add to your post above........

Transmission

It is thought that fruit bats of the Pteropodidae family are natural Ebola virus hosts. Ebola is introduced into the human population through close contact with the blood, secretions, organs or other bodily fluids of infected animals such as chimpanzees, gorillas, fruit bats, monkeys, forest antelope and porcupines found ill or dead or in the rainforest.

Ebola then spreads through human-to-human transmission via direct contact (through broken skin or mucous membranes) with the blood, secretions, organs or other bodily fluids of infected people, and with surfaces and materials (e.g. bedding, clothing) contaminated with these fluids.

gf.

It's like a plot out of a book, in fact it's already been done some years ago.

Read it, the solution is quite simple and obvious.


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