goldfinger
- 09 Jun 2005 12:25
Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).
Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.
cheers GF.
Chris Carson
- 20 Oct 2014 18:49
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THE SNP is in a “strong position” ahead of next year’s Westminster election, the party’s business convener Derek Mackay has claimed.
The party says analysis of Scottish voting intentions collected in every YouGov poll since the independence referendum on September 18 puts its support at 40.1%.
The “super-poll”, which includes a sample of 4,845 people, has support for Labour at 27.9%, the Conservatives at 17.8%, the Lib Dems at 6.2%, Ukip at 4.1% and the Greens on 3.2%.
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Mr Mackay said the analysis would put pressure on Scottish Labour leader Johann Lamont.
He said: “These are very welcome figures showing that the SNP is in a strong position going into next year’s Westminster election - while Labour’s support is sinking as the whispering campaign against Johann Lamont’s leadership continues.
“With a strong team of SNP MPs elected next year we will be in a good position to hold the Westminster parties to account on their ‘vow’ of extensive new powers for Scotland - and to get the powers we need to make Scotland a fairer, more prosperous place for everyone who lives here.
“No matter what Labour do between now and the election, the fact is that traditional Labour voters won’t forget or forgive Johann Lamont’s decision to enter into the toxic alliance with the Tories in the No campaign.”
Chris Carson
- 20 Oct 2014 18:57
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SHADOW cabinet minister Jim Murphy has ruled out running for Labour leader in Scotland and urged the party to “come together and work hard” to support Johann Lamont.
Mr Murphy yesterday issued a rallying call to the party to unite around its leader Ms Lamont after the direction of the party was criticised by two former Labour First Ministers.
His intervention follows weeks of speculation that Mr Murphy, who played a high-profile role in the No campaign during the run-up to the independence referendum, was considering a switch from Westminster to Holyrood and that he could be in line to take over from Ms Lamont.
• Brian Monteith: Labour between rock and hard place
However, the former Scottish Secretary said Ms Lamont was a “perfectly good leader” and that he wanted to remain as a member of Ed Miliband’s shadow cabinet at Westminster.
Ms Lamont, who was last month forced to deny reports she was set to quit after less than three years in post, faced criticism from two of her predecessors about Labour’s performance in opposition at Holyrood. Former First Minister Lord McConnell said Labour had become “a political machine that is angry about what has happened in Scotland in the recent past” and warned that it must now rediscover its “sense of purpose”.
He added: “I joined the Labour Party because it was a movement. My loyalty over years has not been to a party structure, it has been to a cause. The Scottish Labour Party needs to be a cause.”
• Lesley Riddoch: Parties must say what they want
Another former First Minister Henry McLeish said many Labour voters in Scotland “don’t know what the party stands for” and raised concerns about the party’s vision on extending devolution.
Mr Murphy’s fellow shadow cabinet member Margaret Curran said Labour needs to return to its “socialist principles” and move away from the politics of Tony Blair. Shadow Scottish Secretary Ms Curran insisted that Labour was not the same party it had been a decade ago, when Mr Blair, Labour’s longest serving prime minister, was in charge.
Mr Murphy, MP for East Renfrewshire, insisted that Ms Lamont would lead Scottish Labour into the 2016 election and said he would not be “directly involved” in the party leadership.
He suggested Scottish Labour could defeat the SNP in 2016, despite trailing the nationalists in most opinion polls for Holyrood voting intentions.
Mr Murphy said: “The Scottish Labour Party has been knocked before, has had its detractors before. It’s picked itself up, dusted itself down and got on with it.”
He added: “I think we’ve got a perfectly good leader in Johann Lamont, I think she will continue to lead the party but it is for all of us to come together and work hard. I am confident we can do that. Rather than being involved directly, I’m determined to be a member of Ed Miliband’s cabinet next year.”
However, SNP MSP Sandra White said the “whispering campaign” against Labour’s Scottish leader was “growing louder by the day”.
She said: “Labour finally lost all credibility with people in Scotland when Johann Lamont signed up to the toxic alliance with the Tories in the No campaign – which is why their poll ratings are tumbling, and why more and more people in traditional Labour heartlands are switching straight to the SNP.”
Labour are history in Scotland. Every cloud!
MaxK
- 20 Oct 2014 18:57
- 48098 of 81564
What is a troll?
Internet trolls to face two years in jail
Internet trolls could face two years in jail as Justice Secretary Chris Grayling seeks to quadruple the sentence following a number of cyber attacks on high profile figures
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/celebritynews/11172231/Internet-trolls-to-face-two-years-in-jail.html
Fred1new
- 20 Oct 2014 19:01
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DB4
If you hear Portuguese spoken it is guttural similar compared to Spanish and similar intonnation Dutch.
But wouldn't you wish to speak German. French, Spanish and English as well he does.
Perhaps he is a grade or two above you!
Perhaps you prefer the strutting and posing of Nigel and U-bend Dave.
Fred1new
- 20 Oct 2014 19:02
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PS.
IF you look at the chart look at the 97-2008 period.
goldfinger
- 20 Oct 2014 19:06
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Spot on Fred, makes Hays look a real -wat after his post 48084.
Now we can see who the real big spenders are in government.
The myths that Hays spread are making him look foolish.
2517GEORGE
- 20 Oct 2014 19:07
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Before the last election Labour were looking to raise money by re-jigging the council tax, they said that as rates were set years earlier it needed updating, anyone who has improved their property whether by an extension/garage/conservatory or any other improvement which added value to the property will almost certainly find they are in a higher bracket for council tax should Labour form the next government. This is the reality of the Mansion Tax.
2517
required field
- 20 Oct 2014 19:11
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Isn't a Troll something to do with "Lord of the Rings" ?.....better not mention G. Strachan not getting through the Dwarf auditions then !...(great player by the way)...
required field
- 20 Oct 2014 19:17
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Can't help feeling that this Troll crackdown will be another excuse by the criminal-corrupt establishment to stifle free speech on the internet...if somebody is being insulted nastily or threatened...by all means yes....they should be punished but the way it goes in Britain is that these rules end up by protecting the criminals amongst the ruling elite !...
MaxK
- 20 Oct 2014 19:21
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Who decides what an insult is?
Fred1new
- 20 Oct 2014 19:21
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GF,
There were not many of the voters saying who tough it was in the period 97 -2006.
The tories wanted to spend more and loosen the reins on the city!
The big boys were boasting about how much money they were making on their houses and flying back and fore to second house in France, Italy Spain and Portugal etc..
They were the stupid buggers who broke the bank and tories and labour politicians were stupid enough to allow it to happen.
Glad to know that as far as Cameron is concerned the public rule over EU. he just listens to them.
A statesman or good PM is supposed to LEAD not to creep behind the public.
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The lousy state of politics at the moment is partially down to Farage, but also the fragmentation of UK by scapegoating and finger pointing policies of this government who call themselves tory. (Divide and rule has backfired.)
Tories from previous periods must be turning in their graves.
Fred1new
- 20 Oct 2014 19:23
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Just wondering can Maxk be used as an insult!
8-) or 8-(
required field
- 20 Oct 2014 19:26
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Farage is representing discontent amongst UK voters for the common market !...immigration....etc...in France where I have contacts : it's the same !...they are fed up to the teeth !.....most French people would prefer to have retained the Franc....the Euro was forced upon them !...so it's not only us moaning....there has to be some radical changes about the way we are governed right across Europe !...
MaxK
- 20 Oct 2014 19:43
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You've lost me Fred.
Fred1new
- 20 Oct 2014 19:47
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MK.
It won't be the first or last time!
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RF
As long as Wales, Scotland can leave the sinking boat that is OK.
MaxK
- 20 Oct 2014 19:57
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You're rapier like wit is too much for me Fred.
aldwickk
- 20 Oct 2014 19:58
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The big difference between Labour and Tory is that Labour borrow money and can't pay it back [ remember the " There is no money left " Letter ? They were running the country like Del boy Hatton ran Liverpool.
Never mind let's forget the deficient we left behind [ plan A ] and have a Mansion Tax [ plan B ] , sorted.
aldwickk
- 20 Oct 2014 20:03
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MaxK
You should know by now Fred's wit is as sharp as a rubber ball
Haystack
- 20 Oct 2014 20:06
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It is a sharp as one of those trick rubber knives.