Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).

Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.

cheers GF.

Pistorious gets 5 years, but could be out in 10 months

http://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2014/oct/21/oscar-pistorius-sentencing-prison-live


Or, how to get away with murder

Disgrace imo.

The biggest problem with these immigrants is there under false pretence about getting into England... They think they will be given a home and money for food and a job... Part of the problem comes from immigrants seeking asylum where by the government has paid immigrants not to seek asylum and return to their home countries. The immigrants come back after telling their friends looking for another pay off.

Yet another reason why we need as a country to be out of Europe, so we can set our own immigration policy and that of human rights... Lets not forget, part of the appeal for anyone in Africa to come to Europe is the automatic gain of rights. In Africa a citizen often has no rights where as in Europe they do...

It is because an immigrant has the right to be listened to and processed within an immigration system that will look after them whilst they are being processed that's appealing. The current system of process creates an unfair bill to the taxpayer, because its cheaper to pay and immigrant £1500 than to put them through the immigration system set by the EU... Now surely to a African or other this represents a way for them to support themselves and their families back home.

Agreed Shortie and it's the system which is at fault. As a British citizen I find it intolerable that our Government is unable to control our immigration laws and our human rights laws and cannot deport terrorists and thugs back to their own countries.

Free movement of persons is one of the fundamental freedoms guaranteed by Community law. It is perhaps the most important right under Community law for individuals, and an essential element of European citizenship.

For workers, this freedom has existed since the foundation of the European Community in 1957. It is laid down in Article 45 TFEU and it entails:

the right to look for a job in another Member State;
the right to work in another Member State;
the right to reside there for that purpose;
the right to remain there;
the right to equal treatment in respect of access to employment, working conditions and all other advantages which could help to facilitate the worker's integration in the host Member State.
The concept and implications of this freedom have been interpreted and developed by the case law of the European Court of Justice, including the concept of worker itself.

Equal Treatment in the Host Member State, is why being in the EU is a disadvantage... How many member states in the EU offer their citizens free heath care, unemployment benefit, housing benefit etc..??? Being in the EU and offering these benefits to citizens is a clear disadvantage as it makes our country more in demand for EU citizens to flock too... If we scrap our benefits system you'd soon see demand to be hear fall away, or we could well keep our benefits and public health care and simply leave the EU ending this ridiculous right of non UK citizens...

HAYS AROUND????????????

UK public finances worsen in first half of tax year
LONDON Tue Oct 21, 2014 9:38am BST

(Reuters) - British government borrowing over the last six months was over 10 percent higher than in 2013, official data showed on Tuesday, giving Chancellor George Osborne a tough task to meet his full-year borrowing goals.

Osborne aimed in March to reduce Britain's budget deficit by more than 10 percent over the following 12 months, and Tuesday's figures suggest he has little scope to offer sweeteners to voters before national elections due in May.

Borrowing for September alone was 15.3 percent higher than a year earlier at 11.8 billion pounds, the Office for National Statistics said. That compared to economists forecasts for it to hold roughly steady at 10.5 billion pounds.

For the first six months of the financial year, public sector net borrowing, excluding state-controlled banks, was 58.0 billion pounds, 10.3 percent higher than in 2013.

Last month's data showed that borrowing between April and August was 6 percent higher than a year earlier.

Exact comparisons between the government's budget plans and actual borrowing are difficult. Since last month, the ONS has been using a new method for calculating the headline measure of British public borrowing.

Under the old measure, public sector net borrowing excluding financial sector interventions, stood at 12.6 billion pounds in the month of September, up 14.5 percent from a year earlier.

Borrowing on this basis was forecast in March to fall to 5.5 percent of gross domestic product in the 2014/15 tax year from 6.6 percent in 2013/14. Revisions to GDP and other changes mean that on the new measure, 2013/14 borrowing is now estimated to have been 5.7 percent of GDP.

Deficit reduction has been the central economic policy of the Conservative/Liberal Democrat coalition government since it took power in 2010. Weak growth in 2011 and 2012 has meant that it will not achieve its original plan to largely eliminate the deficit by 2015.

The government has said that the extra borrowing so far this year is due to an uneven pattern of tax receipts in 2013, and that the differences would even out before the end of the financial year.

However, last week the head of the government's budget watchdog said that there appeared to be a bigger problem as greater numbers of people in work were not bringing the expected increase in income tax revenues.

Tuesday's data showed that revenue from income tax and employment insurance contributions in September was 2.3 percent higher than a year ago, while for the year to date it was up by just 0.5 percent.

The government's budget watchdog forecast in March that income tax revenue would rise by 7 percent this year.

Total government revenue was down by 0.4 percent in the first half of the tax year, and the only bright spot was receipts from property and share transaction taxes, which were up by more than a third on the year.

While Britain's economy has grown faster than average so far this year, and unemployment is falling rapidly, wages are growing more slowly than inflation and the government has raised how much people can earn before they start to pay tax.

Public sector net debt excluding state-controlled banks totalled 1.451 trillion in September, matching June's record high of 79.9 percent of GDP.

(Reporting by David Milliken and Li-mei Hoang

GF,

Strange how Haze1 disappears.

Must be a party Central Office getting the latest distortion to spread.

Same as above but need repeating for Napoleon and DB4:

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Government borrowing rose to £11.8bn in September, an increase of £1.6bn compared with a year earlier, according to the Office for National Statistics.


Economists were forecasting that borrowing would hold steady.

The latest figures are a set back for Chancellor George Osborne, who in March pledged to cut the budget deficit by more than 10% over the next 12 months.

Between April and September borrowing was £58bn, a rise of £5.4bn compared with the same period last year.


That is an increase of 10.3%. Last month's figures showed borrowing between April and August was 6% higher than a year earlier.

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Analysis: Simon Jack, Business correspondent, BBC News

Plans to reduce the deficit are getting further off track. The government has so far borrowed 9% more this year than it did at the same time last year. It means the chancellor has no room for manoeuvre as he prepares his pre-election tax and spending plans, due to be announced in early December.


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Do you think Haze1 is holding George's hand or ?


Promises, promises, promises.


Mind we are OK the EU will kick us out and then we can pirate the World!

George doesn't need room for manoeuvre, all he needs do is pledge to make things better over the next 12 months just like he's previously done time and time again... When those pledges fail to materialise who does he answer to, answer no-one!! Lets face it, a Chancellor is no better than a banker, paid and rewarded regardless of results...

Shortie,

That is why the voters don't trust politicians in general and this particular government in particular.

That is why the Farages succeed for a while, until somebody takes their clothes off and reveal them for what they are.

Horrible sight!

8-)

We don't trust politicians in general because we're British, being British means we're sceptical or don't trust anyone that we don't know personally!!

Mind you our politicians hardly inspire confidence or lack and real substance. I bet if you formed a government with the likes of Jessica Ennis, JK Rowling, Keith Lemon, Ant & Dec, Alex Jones, Russell Brand etc. you'd see a majority vote and a decent turnout..

Russell Brand?! Have you temporarily lost your marbles?

Personally I'm not a fan of his. However I have seen him on question time and a few other shows, he might be controversial but, makes more sense than any politician and his views are at least backup with evidence. He's not the complete fool that sometimes he appears to be.

I thought they were members of the cabinet!

Sorry Shortie, I should have put a smiley at the end of my last post! I think Jeremy Paxman did make him look like a complete fool when he interviewed him.

A Labour MP will be next to join UKIP, Carswell boasts as desperate Miliband promises immigration crackdown to shore up leadership


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2789767/miliband-migrants-earn-right-benefits-pass-tougher-english-language-tests-come-place.html

None of the list above would be suitable for government.

Is that the fish and chip paper.

Hays the point is there as suitable as the current bunch of MP's or even more so... Most politicians can even inspire the general public to vote let alone place an 'x' in their box...

At least if Keith Lemon was stood at the immigration desk only the fit English speaking ones would be allowed in... That's got to slash immigration numbers by at least 99% in my eyes.