Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).

Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.

cheers GF.

If the Labs accidentally revealed their real plans it might contain:-

Imprisoning bankers and letting coal miners run the banks

Mansion tax on all owned houses except senior union members

Throw out the Queen and give her houses to President Miliband

Give away all powers to the EU.

Open door policy for immigration from all countries

All business nationalised right down to sweet shops

Bank accounts raided and all money taken

Every job is paid the same

All passports suspended and citizens not permitted to leave

Huge posters everywhere hailing the work of President Mikiband

Update - Labour lead at 1
by YouGov in Politics
Wed October 22, 2014 6 a.m. BST

Latest YouGov / The Sun results 21st Oct - Con 32%, Lab 33%, LD 8%, UKIP 16%;

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/former-labour-minister-frank-field-hits-out-at-ed-miliband-for-being-soft-on-immigration-9809122.html

Former Labour minister Frank Field hits out at Ed Miliband for being soft on immigration

A senior Labour MP has warned that the party is losing its working class supporters to Ukip because it is run by an out-of-touch “elite” that does not understand them.

Frank Field, the former Welfare Reform Minister, accused Ed Miliband of making the same mistake as Tony Blair by taking the party’s traditional voters for granted on the grounds that they had “nowhere else to go.” He said many of the 5m supporters Labour has lost since 1997 have now moved from being non-voting and “politically homeless” to backing Ukip.

In a strong criticism of Mr Miliband, Mr Field says: “A sizeable part of ex-Labour voters have been repelled by the policies promoted by a largely non-working class party elite with whom these ex-voters find it difficult to sympathise and vice-versa.”

Migrants fight in Calais for control of routes to Britain, say police

Hundreds living in camp with no water or sanitation, just a clear view of the road to the port and the lorries that offer an escape






By Claire Duffin, Calais

11:17PM BST 21 Oct 2014



Armed with a large stick, the young man picks up a rock, rushes forward and hurls it through the air.


Within seconds, four rocks come flying back. They smash into the ground inches from where he was standing: welcome to Calais, where pitched battles between rival gangs of migrants are becoming an almost daily occurrence.


The fight on Tuesday was between Eritreans and Ethiopians. One said it broke out after a man accused another of theft. More likely, police said, it was over who controlled the routes the ferry ports, where migrants routinely try to jump on to lorries bound for the UK.


Whatever the cause, the fight was fierce. At one point, 200 young men - many with their faces covered - squared up to each other at the side of a disused railway. Running towards each other holding sticks - and what looked like hospital crutches - they hurled rocks and shouted until police arrived and used tear gas to break them apart.


It was the second day running that the CRS officers - the French riot police - had been called to break up fights between rival groups of migrants as their numbers in the port town swell.

Calais has received a huge influx of migrants in the past six months, with hundreds of mainly Eritrean, Sudanese and Afghan migrants gathering to attempt the crossing to Britain.

Authorities estimate that more than 1,500 people are living rough in the woods or squatting in disused buildings in the city. However, some say the figure is closer to 2,500.



http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/france/11178783/Migrants-fight-in-Calais-for-control-of-routes-to-Britain-say-police.html

Enough said Hays............

Wheres the money going gf?

I see that haze1 has got the latest handouts from party HQ.

Good lad!

Just as a thought.

Are the migrants fleeing from or fleeing to?

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Fred you might have to break the habit of a lifetime and vote at the next GE, as Labour are going to need every vote they can get! :-)

hat tip to leeds on afn for this:



Why can’t the UK government get its deficit down? This issue has been exercising commentators recently, in the light of the latest assessment from the Office for Budget Responsibility (OBR) that George Osborne will once again miss his target for the deficit in the 2014-15 financial year.

Of course, the size of the deficit has fallen – from the £157bn bequeathed by Labour in 2009-10, to £108bn in 2013-14. But it hasn’t fallen by as much as the OBR consistently predicted, or as much as the chancellor would like it to. This limits the ability of government to deliver tax cuts in advance of the general election next year.

A common, and plausible, reason is that there has been a shift in how the economy operates. Output has recovered strongly, but earnings have not. The bargaining power of employers is stronger, many members of the workforce have a more flexible attitude to how much they work, so take-home pay has failed to keep up with inflation. As a result, the amount of tax flowing into the government’s coffers is not as much as would be expected on the basis of evidence from previous economic recoveries.

But the fundamental reason for our stubborn deficit is that remuneration in the public sector remains too high. The recent strikes by Unite and other unions show that many people on the conventional Left seem to believe that the purpose of public expenditure is to boost the private consumption of those employed in the public sector.

http://www.cityam.com/1413927367/yet-another-missed-deficit-target-osborne-public-sector-pay-blame

Cameron being flogged in PMqs, Milly really starting to get the upper hand now.

DB,

That would give me a sense of responsibility or belonging to.

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Hardly responsible for myself and prefer my own company!

SNP,

Perhaps end for a life time, meant Cameron's lifetime.

The minutes of the recent MPC committee of the BoE say, "that was insufficient evidence of inflationary pressures to raise interest rates". MPC members voted 7-2 to keep interest rates at 0.5%.

Keeping pay rates low is a large part of the secret to keeping inflation low at present.

Bunkum. Inflation under RPI is storming away as it includes Housing costs.

The governments prefered measure CPI is artificialy low because of the quality of jobs in the UK Economy ie, nothing more than labourers, modern slaves.

Thats why the government cant cut the deficit because the tax take(inflow) is so low and at the same time benefits(outflow) are increasing eg, housing benefit and tax credits.

You dont half talk some pony Hays.

GF,

Just a thought.

Cameron boasting of 2 million apprenticeships and promising another million.

Exactly what are these apprenticeships, what are they in?

What are the apprenticed paid?

What are the chances of employment after the apprenticeship jobs?

Is it another form of cheap labour, which in 50-80s it was considered by some employers to be. Hence the loss of interest by employers?

Isn't this another attempt by Cameron and cronies to distort unemployment figures?

Beginning to think this government would be to corrupt for a banana republic?

By how many of the ex Bullingdon club failures are on apprenticeship schemes?

Its total twaddle being spouted by Camoron Fred.

He hasnt said a honest thing since he started to try and beat Reckless in the upcoming By election.

He knows if he loses, a leadership contest will take place.