Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).

Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.

cheers GF.

Now whats Dave gonna do?



Jean-Claude Juncker issues migrant threat to Cameron

The new President of the European Commission is 'not willing to compromise' on the issue of the freedom of movement of migrants within the European Union






By Bruno Waterfield, and Peter Dominiczak

1:27PM BST 22 Oct 2014





Jean-Claude Juncker has issued a direct threat to David Cameron and said he is "not willing to compromise" on the issue of the freedom of movement of migrants within the European Union.


The new President of the European Commission accused the Prime Minister of attempting to “destroy” the rules that allow EU immigrants to live and work anywhere in the bloc.


It will come as a major blow to Mr Cameron, who wants to reform Britain’s relationship with Brussels ahead of an in-out referendum he has said he will hold in 2017.


Mr Juncker said: "I am not prepared to change [freedom of movement]. If we are destroying the freedom of movement other freedoms will fall. I am not willing to compromise."



More: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/11179862/Jean-Claude-Juncker-issues-migrant-threat-to-Cameron.html

I think Dave should let his little rottweiler, Theresa May deal with him Max !!

She's got enough problems trying to get rid of foreign crims db.


But it shows just how pointless the whole Cameroon stance is. The €urobuns aint taking a blind bit of notice of cameroons rantings.

I told you they wouldnt.

Part if the reason she has got the problems of getting rid of foreign criminals is because of human rights laws, which are not the fault of David Cameron - or the Conservative government, Max.

Edward Heath took us into the EEC.

.wrong thread.

Heath was a good lad.


True blue tory was he not?

I think it is our Benefits System which is at fault. It is far too generous.

If freedom of movement is a right amongst all member states, then so must benefits rules and payments be identical too. Ours seem to be uniquely different and ridiculously generous.

What has Juncker got to say about that?

Exec,

I agree with you.

Starve them.

That will make them stronger and able to work till they drop on starvation wages.

That what I do with my garden.

Got rid of everything other than the weeds.

Too generous for people coming here, too skinny for those here who have to fall back on it say eg, illness, disability.

Cant quite see how people can send child benefit back home whilst working here or not working here. Im all for freedom of movement as long as its fair.

If my memory serves me correctly it was the Labour party that got this country into the human rights mess in the first place. Cameron has consistently opposed the Act and has been trying to have it amended for years - with opposition from both the Labour party and the Lib Dems.

Revision of Welfare payments to migrants and dependents who have been in the country for short time should be reviewed and probably modified.

But if you have a brain surgeon who has just entered the country and has a job but develops a medium term illness which will probably resolve itself within 3 months when he will "probably" be able to return to his post, do you refuse him bread and water on the state.


uuuummh.

Seems simple!

If a patient dementia examination to a doctor is £55 I wonder what initial assessment of the above's condition would.

Of course there routine follow up examination and the cost of treatment.


Simple!

Human rights, protects you when you pop over the border into other parts of Europe.

I am quite happy for others to give up those rights, but prefer to keep mine.

Human rights protect the thugs and terrorists from being deported out of this country.

DB4,

But I may mistakenly believe you are thug and treat you accordingly without consideration of what others consider to be your human rights.

You have to admit some may consider you a dodgy character!

Very funny Fred! I was a actually referring to convicted criminals who cannot be deported back to their own countries because of the Human Rights Act.

And the time and money it takes from the tax payer to find out if their human rights have been abused and the appeal process, for the likes of bombers and those who killed Lee Rigby.

50 years ago, I had a cousin who was put in prison.

His crime was committed when he sat in a cafe drinking a coffee, when the "leader" of that country was making a speech on the radio.

The crime was that he turn to somebody and said "somebody turn that old fool off".

He served 4 years. With restrictions after serving his sentence where he could practice for another 10 years.

He was a qualified doctor, and many thought him suitable for a research career.

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If that country had been a signatory to the Human Rights charter, it probably would have be different.

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Tread carefully!

With some of the intrusive legislature this government has and wants to introduce and secret courts you may need the "Rights".

Edward Heath took us into the EEC.

And Margret Thatcher got us a rebate which Labour gave back. Thatcher would have got us out of the EU long ago before it got as bad as this.