goldfinger
- 09 Jun 2005 12:25
Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).
Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.
cheers GF.
aldwickk
- 22 Oct 2014 17:42
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The crime was that he turn to somebody and said "somebody turn that old fool off".
Was it Neil Kinnock who was making the speech ?
Fred1new
- 22 Oct 2014 17:45
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Napoleon,
Where did some of your genes escape from?
(Actually, it was at a cafe in Witney in 2018. So watch out!)
doodlebug4
- 22 Oct 2014 17:46
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50 years ago aldwickk - steady on. How old is Kinnock?
MaxK
- 22 Oct 2014 18:21
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Unemployed foreigners will be barred from claiming benefits, Iain Duncan Smith announces
Iain Duncan Smith, the Work and Pensions Secretary, says he wants to end the 'something for nothing' culture by tackling benefit tourism
By Steven Swinfoird, Senior Political Correspondent
5:43PM BST 22 Oct 2014
Unemployed foreigners will be barred from claiming benefits in Britain under the government's flagship Universal Credit scheme, the Work and Pensions Secretary has said.
Iain Duncan Smith said that a future Conservative government will end the "something for nothing" culture by withdrawing benefits paid to jobseekers from the European Economic Area.
Under the present system, foreigners can claim job seeker's allowance worth up to £72.50 a week after they have been in Britain for three months.
However Mr Duncan Smith plans to use Universal Credit, which will be fully rolled out by 2018, to end the "pull factor" which attracts benefit tourists to Britain.
He said: "The structure of Universal Credit is such that a person will not be claiming universal credit if they haven't established a residency here. It's different from Jobseeker's allowance. We actually lose a chunk of people that may well come. You start to lose the pull factor for being unemployed in the UK."
More:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/11180954/Unemployed-foreigners-will-be-barred-from-claiming-benefits-Iain-Duncan-Smith-announces.html
Fred1new
- 22 Oct 2014 19:39
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Immigration is a side issue in an attempt to distract the voters from the abysmal economic policies of this tory led government over 4 years.
With destruction of some of the principles of a decent society. Insurance may protect you except when the insurance company goes bust.
Suggest some who are ranting UKIP and "kick them out" have a look at the Goebbel rants of the 30s.
Many would have felT at home in that period.
cynic
- 22 Oct 2014 19:53
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labour over the previous 12 years wasn't so hot or are you going to claim otherwise?
did labour actually achieve anything of long term benefit in that period?
i'm not saying they didn't, but if they did, then clearly i and everyone else here needs reminding
Haystack
- 22 Oct 2014 20:16
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The Arsenal match for some reason is on Sky 1 now.
Fred1new
- 22 Oct 2014 20:17
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Napoleon,
Did Labour make mistakes?
Of course.
If you look back you will see my criticism.
( One, especially use of PFIs and the bloody stupid remuneration and change of contract and responsibilities of GPS.)
Another crazy action was following USA into Iraq.
Also, too many reforms of education system.
Also, not sorting out the ducking and diving around tax legal an illegal.
Not restraining crazy levels of "borrowing".
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Did they do good things, yes.
Built decent hospitals and schools and improved infrastructure.
Attempted to improve social care in community.
Attempt to increase research in University.
Just a brief list.
But the "country" as a whole appeared more content and respecting of others than they do with the present fragmented society designed by IDS and his ilk.
(It was a partial delusion.)
They tried to repair some of the disastrous social effects of the Thatcher years and give society a sense of being on the same side.
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I am going back to making a Provence sauce for squid, prawns and cod.
Far easier.
MaxK
- 22 Oct 2014 20:22
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Support for EU membership 'at highest level since 1991 with most Brits wanting to stay in'

Despite Ukip's rise in popularity, new research by IpsosMori found 56 per cent of British adults want to stay within the EU - though they still do want the relationship to change
Natasha Culzac
Wednesday 22 October 2014
Ukip’s recent clean-up at the European Elections, the swipes it seems to be making on the foundations of the Conservative Party and its clear populist style has, it appears, not made a dent in the level of support Britons have for EU membership.
In fact, new research by IpsosMori suggests that support for the European Union (EU) has grown and is at its highest since 1991, shattering perceptions that the UK is edging closer towards a swift exit from the single market.
The sample group had been asked which way they would vote should a referendum on EU membership be offered to them now.
Fifty-six per cent said they would stay in the EU – up from 44 per cent in 2012.
More:
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/support-for-eu-membership-at-highest-level-since-1991-with-most-brits-wanting-to-stay-in-9811096.html
Fred1new
- 22 Oct 2014 20:38
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The general public seem more mature than the ranting immature right wingers.
Being in the EU. gives the UK to modify it when necessary and PERSUADE others are advantageous to all.
(A united EU response "may" have been more effective against Russia and also organise a more efficient response to the problems in the M.E. and such dangerous problems as Ebola or other calamities. (A change of virulence of a flu virus would be more disastrous and widespread than Ebola, and more difficult to contain. We would not be insulated from it.)
Also, of more importance it may provide the necessary to rule in the extremes of "free trade" at and the international movement and double dealing of some in financial world.
Not to-morrow, but perhaps within 20-30years.
MaxK
- 22 Oct 2014 23:38
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There's no fool like an old fool!
MaxK
- 22 Oct 2014 23:52
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One for Fred
Haystack
- 22 Oct 2014 23:55
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cynic
- 23 Oct 2014 06:07
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fred - napoleon was pretty successful for a long time and though he ultimately met his waterloo, it was damn close run thing :-)
goldfinger
- 23 Oct 2014 08:14
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No chance Cynic, Richard Sharpe saw him off him and his rifle men.
This_is_me
- 23 Oct 2014 08:31
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I used the squelch button on Fred years ago and found that to be a help in keeping my blood pressure normal.
cynic
- 23 Oct 2014 09:01
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sharpe was strictly a fair weather golfer, restricting himself to around cascais (lisbon) as the algarve had not yet been developed
aldwickk
- 23 Oct 2014 09:08
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T I M
So did I , but i have reinstated him just to see what the pompous old twat is posting next, am sure he must be related to Arthur Lowe who Captain Mainwareing was based upon by the script writers
MaxK
- 23 Oct 2014 09:25
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goldfinger
- 23 Oct 2014 09:38
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Richard Sharpe.........