Thought I'd start a new thread as this is going to be a major talking point this year...have not made up my mind yet...(unlike bucksfizz)....but thinking of voting for an exit as Europe is not doing Britain any good at all it seems....

has just slapped 46 per cent duties on steel from Port Talbot
i am certain that is a load of bollocks
this 46% tariff relates to some fairly esoteric steel which i don't think port talbot even makes, and it would seem uk has not exported any such steel to china for at least a year

if boris is going to try to make a point, he would do well to do accurately ..... i therefore wonder what other howlers or bits of "wishful thinking" may also lurk within boris's rant

Don't forget the EU slaps 30% tariffs on steel from China and that was before China set their tariff. The EU tariff applies to all steel, but the Chinese one only applies to what is called electric steel.

Victim
I want to leave the EU and my friends are pretty well evenly spli in and out. Almost all believe that the vote will be to stay in. People en masse don't like change.

cynic the high grade steel that China have slapped a 46% tariff on, maybe dosn't get exported to China, but its their very intention to show in the face of camerons platitudes of being China's friend in the west, that they don't give a toss what cameron believes.

And as to Haystack once again claiming something that isn't true...The EU put a tariff of between 9.5%-13% on Chinese imports...

ft.com/fastft/2016/01/29/eu-imposes-new-tariff-on-chinese-steel-imports/

To say that Haystack and cynic claims to be LEAVERS, they certainly give the impression to the contary..


I've already gave an Opinium poll earlier today, for the Observer that says 43% vote to LEAVE, 39% to remain, I'm getting more confident as independent day gets nearer....

Unfortunately, almost all of the other polls show remain well in the lead.

https://euobserver.com/eu-china/128144

The EU Wednesday officially announced it would impose anti-dumping duties on Chinese and Taiwanese steel imports in Europe.
The EU published in its official journal a list of import duties on stainless steel cold rolled flat products (SSCR) of 24-25 percent for Chinese companies and 10-12 percent for Taiwanese companies.

Part of the problem is that the US is adding a 266% tariff to some steel from China. This causing an even bigger over supply in China, so they are dumping it on the EU etc.

http://www.wsj.com/articles/u-s-imposes-266-duty-on-some-chinese-steel-imports-1456878180

Haystack (490) The EU officially announced it would impose anti-dumping duties on Chinese and Taiwanese steel imports in Europe..On Stainless steel cold rolled flat products(SSCR) of 24-25 per cent.

That's in the same vein as the Chinese imposing the 46% tariff on The high grade steel produced in the UK, in that the Chinese don't import if any of that steel..

And its the same with that Stainless steel rolled flat (SSCR), 3.7 million tonnes were produced last year, of which 72% was by European producers...That leaves 28% produced by the rest of the world, So the EU putting that 24-25% tariffs is pretty much immaterial..

But the general iron has a 9.5-13% tariff as stated earlier.

US is imposing 266% duty on some Chinese steel...

Yes they are certainly in a position to take that action to LOOK AFTER THEIR INDUSTRIES...

But the US are quite happy to try and cajole the UK in voting to remain in the eu, maybe its because the US is quite happy to allow europe to get dumped on, without the fear of the UK or any other independent country from imposing the same tariffs as the US..

It wouldn't solve the problem if we set very high tariffs because we would lose markets. We produce more steel than we can consume.

I had to laugh at this one......"This is causing an even bigger over supply in China, so they are dumping it on the EU etc."


Yes my heart bleeds, What about closing down some of their steel mills just like whats in store for those around the UK...

Or is it just the UK's steel mills that have to take the brunt of all this over supply?...

We've lost market share to the Chinese due their over supply and cheap dumping..And due also to the HIGH energy cost that is added to energy bills for climate change and other greens cons by being in the eu....

Actually the green costs are added by the UK. The energy costs in Germany are far lower than here.

National insurance figures set to inflame Brexit
Official data expected to show more European migrants work in UK than previously indicated


well there's a surprise!
and how many "extras" from all sources have learned how to manipulate the system for benefits with no input?

It's the worst kept secret that there are around 1.3 million more than our government would have us believe, and that's without the 1 million or so illegals.
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You could always help out.

Leave the country.

Take Manuel and JB with you.

8-)

No wonder Mervyn King said the EU would destroy Britain , we will be spending fortunes on NHS and services just to stand still , plus the benefits to pay out this is without these other countries yet to fully join , you can bet hoards will make there way over here , and it's all looked over by the stayers .

Haystack "Actually the green cost are added by the UK"

What about the EU European Trading Scheme (ETS)...Agree not as much as the UK adds but still payable...

Well there's a headline Merky won't like on AM news , German factory orders dive in February . What they gonna do with all them Syrians now .

What a prat you really are Fred.
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