Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).

Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.

cheers GF.

Johann Lamont.

I must admit she used to send a shiver through me. Thought of her as the Doppelgänger for Theresa May.

How competent she was I don't know, but feel she did a lot for the SNP. A bit like May and Mcvey do for Labour!

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But you can see how dirty the cons are going to get in the lead up to the election through false media information.

fred
i'm sure it has been within the last few weeks that you have been raving that labour would have an overall majority or 20/30/40 or even 60 seats

now you are backing - voting would be entirely the wrong in the context of you - labour as the largest party but still (quite well?) short of the majority

in almost the same breath, you say the tories will take a whacking, presumably at the hands of ukip (you think).
slightly irrelevantly, you assume (probably wrongly) that ukip will only take a small number of labour votes

ukip most assuredly will not go anywhere near bedding labour, and that being so, who will hold this plethora of seats that labour will need to support them in coalition or even as a minority gov't?

Good morning doctor....
Good morning patient.....what's the problem ?.......
I've been coughing and sneezing for a day or so now...
Ahh...I see.....a clear case of dementia !.....
But...but doctor,,,,no buts please...
Next !...
Good morning doctor..
Good morning patient...what's the story ?...morning.. glory ?...(snigger)...only joking...
It's my back !....it's aching.....
hmmm....another case ..odd..sorry.. of dementia I mean..euhh.. I see...
But..doctor..
No butts....you must stop smoking...
Next !...

End of the day : one quack to another :
How many demons have you clocked up doctor ?
Loads !....never seen so many cases in my life....24 dementias and 2 measles....must be an epidemic !..
Seychelles this year ?...you're on !...

Might be a bit like this with the bonus scheme....

The fuhrer of the €U says nine!




Angela Merkel opposes Cameron EU renegotiation plan


German chancellor ‘will not tamper’ with principle of free movement of workers, which PM seems to want to alter



Press Association


theguardian.com, Sunday 26 October 2014 07.31 GMT





David Cameron’s hopes of an EU renegotiation over the free movement of workers have suffered a blow after Angela Merkel spelled out her opposition to fundamental change.


The prime minister has indicated he will make changes to the principle of freedom of movement within the union a “red line” in a mooted renegotiation of the UK’s membership terms.

He is thought to be preparing a manifesto pledge to bring in quotas for low-skilled migrants from the EU. Before the last general election Cameron promised to bring net annual immigration down to the “tens of thousands” but has failed to get anywhere near the target.

But, speaking to the Sunday Times, the German chancellor appeared to dismiss the prospect of radical change.

“Germany will not tamper with the fundamental principles of free movement in the EU,” Merkel said.


The setback comes after a difficult few days for the PM, in which he was presented at a Brussels summit with a demand to pay an extra £1.7bn into EU coffers.


Cameron responded furiously to the bill, insisting it would not be paid by the deadline of 1 December, and warning that the row risked pushing the UK closer to the exit door.



http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/oct/26/angela-merkel-opposes-cameron-eu-renegotiation-plan

Fred this is just a molehill with the Scots compared to what Camoron faces after Reckless wins the bi election.

Just sit back with a cigar/glass of wine and relax and watch the feathers flying and developing.

It will be good TV.

Cynic you have e-mail.

Update - Labour and Conservative Tied
by YouGov in Politics
Sun October 26, 2014 6 a.m. GMT

Latest YouGov / Sunday Times results 24th Oct - Con 33%, Lab 33%, LD 7%, UKIP 16%

That is three polls in a row making them tied

The problem with the 1.9b payment is that it is fair. It is just one of the normal balancing payments. We get them all the time based on how well each economy in the EU is performing. This one is larger than normal because we have been doing so we'll. If we had a terrible economy then we wouldn't be complaining about a huge rebate. The principle is that the best performing countries support the worst. It is a sort of insurance policy. We will have to pay and we should.

It's a transfer union by another name.

The UK's annual deficit is around 6% of GDP, in Europe it is 2.9%, so how come we pay them? We are doing extremely well on borrowed money.
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Manuel,

Post 48525

I generally pick my words carefully when I post. My father warned me a very long time “not to write in haste and as you may repent in leisure”. (Adding it is sometimes better to bite one’s tongue, and put the incident into memory.) In general I have followed that advice. (One or two regrets.)

I think the figures you are trying to point to, are those of your mate Lord knows what Ashcroft polls.

When you were holidaying recently you must have got some more sand in your brain box.

I would think the chances of Labour doing a deal with UKIP would be not feasible. They are poles apart in basic ideology. That is not so of Labour, Lib/Dems, SNP, Greens “moderate independents”.

Tories trying to do a deal with UKIP would be at the price of Cameron’s head and might appeal to reactionaries in the Con. party like Cash and Redwood (Wedgewood) and outdated reactionaries like yourself and Hazyone.

.

16% would take a nice little chunk out of tories.

The UKIP will certainly appeal to the racist tendencies in the extreme right of the tories but will have less appeal to labour and Lib.Dem voters, although Cameron and crew are trying to whip up the immigration problem, and are trying to beat Labour with it. Unless Labour and Lib/dems are more "inept" than I think, this attempt will backfire on the tories.

By James Titcomb, and James Quinn
11:10AM BST 25 Oct 2014
Twenty-five of 130 European banks have failed the ECB and EBA's comprehensive assessment of their financial health - but all British banks pass

Almost one in five of the eurozone’s biggest banks have failed the European Central Bank (ECB)’s comprehensive test of their financial safety.

Twenty-five - including Greece's Eurobank Ergasias and Italy's Banca Monte dei Paschi - of the 130 lenders being assessed by the ECB have failed the stress tests - the biggest-ever single review of the single currency’s major banks.

13 of the 25 need to raise €25bn (£20bn) of fresh capital. The remaining 12 have already covered their shortfalls, the ECB said of the tests, which covered the banks' positions at the end of last year.

Both the ECB and European Banking Authority (EBA) released the results of its stress tests at 11am on Sunday.

The two bodies’ assessments, which model scenarios such as downturns in the housing market, a new recession and a spike in borrowing costs, cover similar ground but have important differences.


The ECB conducted an additional review of eurozone banks’ assets ahead of it taking over as the primary regulator of banks that use the single currency; the EBA’s tests also cover European banks that are not part of the euro, including British ones.

Rather than acting as a black mark against failing lenders, the tests are designed to restore confidence in the sector by giving banks that pass a seal of approval.

The EBA has previously held two rounds of stress tests, the last one in 2011, but they were seen as too soft.

The current round is the first to be conducted by the ECB. To pass, banks must have had a Tier 1 Capital ratio – a measure of their safety – of 8pc last year.

Under the adverse scenarios the ECB is simulating, this can fall to no more than 5.5pc.

All four British banks involved in the EBA process - Barclays, HSBC, Lloyds Banking Group and the Royal Bank of Scotland - passed the review, however, Lloyds suffered the biggest shock under the most extreme scenario.

All four plus another four banks and building societies are facing much sterner stress tests from the Bank of England. The Bank will release the results of its own tests in December.

Andrea Leadsom, economic secretary to the Treasury, welcomed the results. "A key part of our long term economic plan is to strengthen UK banks so that they can support the economy, help businesses, and serve customers," she said.

"I’m pleased to see that the UK banks have passed the EBA stress tests. This shows our robust reforms to build a more resilient banking sector are working," she went on.

“This unprecedented, in-depth review of the largest banks’ positions will boost public confidence in the banking sector,” said ECB Vice President Vitor Constancio.

“This should facilitate more lending in Europe, which will help economic growth," he continued.

Colin Brereton, economic crisis response lead partner at accouning giant PwC, said of the results: "Although this should restore some confidence and stability to the market, we are still far from a solution to the banking crisis and the challenges facing the banking sector.

"The Comprehensive Assessment was only a one-off test of solvency, not of ongoing viability. The test of long-term viability is whether banks can generate sufficient returns to cover all their costs, including capital costs."

Not everyone praised the results, however. Sven Ludwig, senior vice president of risk and analytics at risk firm SunGard said: "The stress test has been an extremely worthwhile process but is flawed because it focuses purely on capital strength and liquidity ratios."

“The regulator focusses on capital strength and liquidity and what is missing is the strategic element. Struggling banks can find themselves locked into a prison of liquidity and capital ratios."

"Capital, liquidity and profitability form a triangle which defines the health of a bank. Europe’s banks in aggregate have suffered seven years of low profitability. Without profits, banks cannot rebuild their capital base and will slowly fail," he concluded.

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Is there an election due?




British towns being ‘swamped’ by immigrants, says Michael Fallon

Defence secretary’s use of word harks back to Thatcher, amid Ukip pressure and Tory calls for renegotiation of EU membership



Rajeev Syal


The Guardian, Sunday 26 October 2014 12.28 GMT



Michael Fallon, the defence secretary, has claimed British towns are being “swamped” by immigrants and their residents are “under siege”, in an escalation of the emotive language being used by Tory ministers calling for a renegotiation of the UK’s relationship with Europe.

In terms reminiscent of Margaret Thatcher in the 1970s, he said on Sunday that in some areas of the UK, large numbers of migrant workers and foreign people claiming benefits should be subject to some form of restraint – or risk dominating the local population.

Under pressure from Ukip in the polls and facing the possibility of losing the Rochester and Strood byelection to the party next month, David Cameron has indicated he would make changes to the principle of freedom of movement of workers within the union a “red line” in a mooted renegotiation of the UK’s membership terms.

Fallon made his comments after being forced to deny that Cameron’s efforts to renegotiate the UK’s relationship with Europe were foundering after Angela Merkel spelled out her opposition.

After the prime minister detailed his plan for Britain to regain control over its borders, Merkel told a Sunday newspaper she was opposed to fundamental change.

Fallon told Sky News: “The Germans haven’t seen our proposals yet and we haven’t seen our proposals yet, and that’s still being worked on at the moment to see what we can do to prevent whole towns and communities being swamped by huge numbers of migrants.

“In some areas of the UK, down the east coast, towns do feel under siege, [with] large numbers of migrant workers and people claiming benefits, and it’s quite right we look at that,” he said.

His comments were immediately condemned by his cabinet colleague Ed Davey, the Liberal Democrat environment secretary, who said he disagreed with Fallon’s language on the same programme. “When we talk about immigration we need to be responsible in the words that we use,” he said.



More: http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2014/oct/26/british-towns-swamped-immigrants-michael-fallon-eu

Where does Ed stand on immigration? Depends who he is talking to: Labour leader accused of 'total cynicism' after giving two sharply contrasting speeches in just seven hours
Leader pledges to crack down immigration in UKIP stronghold of Rochester
But highlights problem of 'race inequality' in Croydon just hours later
Two contrasting speeches appeared completely tailored to his audience 
By SIMON WALTERS FOR THE MAIL ON SUNDAY

PUBLISHED: 22:44, 25 October 2014 | UPDATED: 10:13, 26 October 2014

Things going the Tory way at the moment but just wait until Reckless trashes them.

Thatl be it with other defectors.

Labour to win the GE easy with a majority.

By Telegraph View
7:00AM GMT 26 Oct 2014


The Scottish Labour Party is in turmoil, and the blame game has begun. After quitting as Scottish leader, Johann Lamont labelled her Westminster colleagues “dinosaurs” for failing to recognise the need for her local party to pursue its own identity. This follows a long brain-drain of Labour talent from the North to the South that has left behind a desiccated husk. After decades of domination, Labour was wounded gravely by the SNP’s triumph in the 2011 Holyrood elections. Current polling still puts the nationalists far ahead.

Pride prevents Ed Miliband from accepting any blame for his party’s fortunes in Scotland. After thousands of Labour voters defected to the nationalist cause in the referendum, he preferred to gripe about Mrs Lamont and her local organisation. But if Labour is losing out even in its historic heartlands, then responsibility ultimately lies with bad national leadership. Mr Miliband has failed to explain how Labour would manage the economy and failed to make as passionate a case for the Union as that made by, say, Jim Murphy, the shadow international development secretary.

The strategy of sticking to Left-wing rhetoric in the hope of sneaking into No 10 with the help of Ukip is sheer negligence. There is, however, the potential for poetic justice in all of this. While Mr Miliband is counting on Ukip to sap Tory votes south of the border, the SNP could do exactly the same to Labour votes in Scotland – maybe denying Labour a majority. But for all Britons who want to secure the economic recovery, relying on such good fortune is too high a risk to take. Better to ensure that no vote is wasted on the Ukip protest, and that the Tories triumph in 2015.

DB4 and MAX

Don't show it to Napoleon.

It will tire him to much.

Here is an interesting article for you!





It looks as if Dave has just seen Haze and Manuel!


http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/oct/26/crude-assault-on-europe-strikes-at-enlightenment-values

But another is the editorial;

It pointers where the UK could being paying some of its bills from:

http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/oct/26/observer-view-on-corporation-tax

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LABOUR have been plunged into civil war as their Westminster and Holyrood politicians clash in the wake of Johann Lamont’s resignation.

She quit as Scottish leader on Friday night, accusing Ed Miliband and the London party of wielding too much control in Scotland.

Lamont accused London of treating the Scottish party as a “branch office” and branded some of the party’s MPs “dinosaurs”.

Yesterday, two former Labour first ministers described London’s grip as an “outrageous situation”
costing the party“votes, credibility, relevance and authority”.

But MPs retorted that Lamont had been posted missing since the independence referendum, when Glasgow and the Labour heartlands of North Lanarkshire and Dundee voted Yes.






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Just weeks ago, Lamont insisted she wanted to lead Labour into the 2016 Holyrood election. But on Friday night, she said moves to oust ­Scottish party general secretary Ian Price without consulting her had made her position ­untenable.

Sources said Price was summoned to London and removed because he was too close to the Scottish leadership.

Yesterday, former first minister Jack McConnell said: “Everyone believed the problem for me, and for the other leaders since, of authority over the party in Scotland had been resolved three years ago.

“It is clear from what Johann has said that the issue is not resolved and that in practice she did not have that authority. That is an outrageous situation in 2014.

“For Ed Miliband and the team around him to undermine her authority in this way is just unacceptable.

“We need to resolve the issue of authority before we elect a new leader.

“The party demands it, our voters demand it and I believe Scottish politics demands a Scottish Labour Party that is fit for purpose. It is a fundamental mistake to have a leader without sufficient authority to do the job.”

Lamont’s battles with London have included her proposal to devolve all of income tax to Scotland. That idea was watered down to varying the rate by up to 15p.

And another former Labour first minister, Henry McLeish, writing in today’s Sunday Mail, said: “Remarkably, Westminster has devolved government power to Scotland but UK Labour has been unable to devolve any real political power.

“This lack of autonomy is costing the party votes, credibility, relevance and authority.

“The role of any leader in Scotland has turned into a nightmare as the grip of London grows stronger, not weaker.”

The Unite union, one of Labour’s most powerful backers, called for Westminster’s control of Labour in Scotland to end.

Pat Rafferty, Scottish secretary of Unite, said: “There can be no more business as usual because politics across these islands are in flux. Labour nationally must understand this, allowing the party in Scotland to divine its destiny, not have one foisted upon it from SW1.”

Last week, a left-wing pressure group within Scottish Labour met for the first time to discuss pushing for devo max and for the party to rename itself and distance itself from the London leadership.

Event co-organiser Andrew McFadyen, writing in the Sunday Mail today, said: “The defining issue of the leadership contest will now be the freedom of Scottish Labour to set its own policies and priorities, without Westminster interference.”










Glasgow Pollok MSP Lamont, 57, had been leader for three years. She replaced Iain Gray after the SNP Holyrood landslide of 2011.

In her resignation letter yesterday, she said the referendum had opened a “new chapter” for Labour.

But a huge rise in SNP membership, from 25,000 to more than 82,000, has led some Labour MPs to fear they will lose their seats at next year’s General Election.

And Lamont said: “Some, including senior members of the party, have questioned my place in this new phase.

“In order that we can have the real discussion about how we take Scottish Labour forward, I believe it would be best if I took myself out of the equation.”

Labour sources say Shadow Scots Secretary Margaret Curran was among the MPs briefing against Lamont, despite the pair being friends since they were students together 40 years ago.



Margaret Curran
Margaret Curran


One senior insider said: “Margaret spoke to MPs and phoned round Scottish executive members to try to get some sort of front up against Johann.

“She is panicking about her own seat and the only thing she can change is Johann’s leadership.

“It’s pretty bad form. People in the party, particularly MSPs, are furious with her.

“Johann and Margaret were very close but Margaret has always seen herself as the senior partner. She was always slightly unsettled by Johann as leader.

“She has put her own career ahead of the Scottish party and her friendship with Johann. It’s no wonder some people are calling her Lady Macbeth.”

Curran refused to comment and Labour MPs denied she had briefed against Lamont.

Edinburgh South MP Ian Murray said: “Margaret has been fully supportive of Johann and has never organised against her. I am slightly disappointed in Johann or her team of advisers deciding to go down that route.”

Another Labour source added: “Margaret has been nothing but loyal to Johann. The suggestion that she was organising against her is nothing but a lie.”

And one Labour MP said: “Since the referendum, Johann has given the impression of not being
interested in being leader any longer. You either lead or get out the way and let someone else lead. We have had a month of absolutely nothing from Johann.”

Scottish Labour’s executive will meet today to discuss the process for electing a new leader.

Deputy leader Anas Sarwar is 2-1 favourite with Ladbrokes. Holyrood rising star Kezia Dugdale is 4-1 and former prime minister Gordon Brown is 5-1.

Alex Salmond: Miliband must take the blame




PA First Minister Alex Salmond and Labour leader Ed Miliband

First Minister Alex Salmond and Labour leader Ed Miliband


Alex Salmond blamed Ed Miliband yesterday for Johann Lamont’s decision to quit.

The outgoing First Minister insisted that the UK Labour leader had to take responsibility for the “meltdown” in his party in Scotland.

Salmond, who faced Lamont at First Minister’s Questions every week for three years, said: “It is clear that the fundamental nature of Labour’s leadership crisis in Scotland is caused by Ed Miliband and his coterie at Westminster.

“Labour’s meltdown in Scotland has been created by Labour in London.

“We have the extraordinary situation that an outgoing leader has admitted that Scottish Labour is just a ‘branch office’ controlled by London – in other words, the Scottish Labour Party is a fiction.

“The person responsible for that, and for making Johann Lamont’s position ‘untenable’, as she herself put it, is Ed Miliband.

“He should be answering questions about why Labour in Scotland is run as an extension of his Westminster office, and why he has effectively forced the resignation of a Labour leader in Scotland.”

Salmond’s deputy Nicola Sturgeon, who will become SNP leader and First Minister next month, said: “Johann Lamont carries my personal best wishes, including in continuing to represent the people of Glasgow Pollok.

“But there is no question her shock resignation reveals Labour to be in complete meltdown in Scotland.

“The scale of the infighting between Scottish Labour and Labour at Westminster is exposed for all to see.

“The London-based leadership pulling the party’s strings in Scotland, and Labour campaigning side-by-side with the Tories in the referendum, has proved a deeply corrosive combination which is causing Labour support to plummet in Scotland.”

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