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Israeli Gaza conflict?????? (GAZA)     

Fred1new - 06 Jan 2009 19:21

Will this increase or decrease the likelihood of terrorist actions in America, Europe and the rest of the world?

If you were a member of a family murdered in this conflict, would you be seeking revenge?

Should Tzipi Livni and Ehud Olmert, be tried for war crimes if or when this conflict comes to an end?

What will the price of oil be in 4 weeks time?

Haystack - 14 Apr 2011 14:43 - 4856 of 6906

Of course there are all the allegations of corruption, fraud etc against Netanyahu over the years that he has managed to side step. He is even under investigation at present.

In The Land of the B - 14 Apr 2011 17:11 - 4857 of 6906

Funny the way the parrot only points up the weaknesses or crimes of Jews, (and what did you expect - Jews and Israelis are like everybody else, good bad and everything in between)NEVER his Hamas or Hizbollah terrorist friends.
Raging nazi anti-semite.

Haystack - 14 Apr 2011 21:08 - 4858 of 6906

LOL

As usual, simple logic defies you.

You should read Norman Finkelstein, who is a Jew. His father was in Auschwitz, his mother was in the Majdanek concentration camp and both were in the Warsaw Ghetto. The rest of his relatives all died in concentration camps. He is strongly opposed to the way Israel behaves towards Palestinians. He has met and supports Hizbollah. He has been to Israel, Gaza and the West Bank many times. One of his books is called "The Holocaust Industry". It is a book about how some people make money out of the holocaust. Another is called "This time we went too far" and is about the Israeli invasion of Gaza.

How do you explain his attitude. Is he a "Raging Nazi anti-semite"?

In The Land of the B - 14 Apr 2011 21:35 - 4859 of 6906

No, of course he isn't.
What you don't seem to grasp is that Jews and Israelis are like everybody else, good bad and everything in between AND a full range of views across the whole spectrum from extreme left to extreme right from ultra-religious (nutters in my view) to atheists.
As it happens I disagree strongly with a lot of the policies of the current Israeli government, including some of the actions during Cast Lead but not all. Military action was necessary to fight back against the constant daily hail of rockets and missiles but, as in all wars and particularly those fought in an urban environment there are tragic consequences sometimes for annocent civilians. Of course it doesn't help that Hamas deliberately put their fighters in amongst civilians in the hope of dissuading the IDF from fighting in specific situations for fear of harming them. Hamas view it as a win-win because if and inevitably when civilians get hurt or killed it has great propaganda value world wide and especially amongst the blind like parrot.
And yes, some of the settlers are religious nutters who create problems by settling on what I regard as the future territory of an independent Palestine.
And yes, such settlements should be stopped by the Israeli government. The problem as usual is the perfect electoral proportional representation system in Israel which permits the religious nutters to have enough votes in the Knesset to get their way.
I can tell you there is considerable resentment against them by the majority of secular Israelis.
Yes, they were right to stop ships trying to break the blockade and the people who were killed put themselves in harm's way by attacking the sailors as they abseiled down.
Yes, they were wrong in stopping some of the non-military goods getting into Gaza, but right to stop material with war uses.
It is a war.
If Hamas recognised Isreal and gave up its demand of her destruction and stopped launching rockets then a peaceful settlement would come.
Till then, it's war.

The problem with the parrot is that he is so anti-semitic and anti-Israel and refuses to be objective that he is an extremist and if he wants the destruction of the only mainly Jewish state in the world, he is assuredly a nazi anti-semite.
Parrot lives in a different world if he thinks that Hamas and Hizbollah and Iran (and the other Arab states he calls on to make war on Israel) would do anything other than wipe out every Jew they could get their hands on. Another Holocaust is what he wants. That's why he's a nazi.
Freddiefewbrains is just a far left fanatic.
fahel sympathises with his fellow Muslims and that colours his attitude. That's fine, he's being true to his Ummah and I can see that.
Parrot, however, has none of those reasons for wanting events which would inevitably lead to a second Holocaust and that is why he is the only true evil nazi on this board.

Haystack - 14 Apr 2011 22:59 - 4860 of 6906

It is an interesting double standard that you operate. You said above that you do not think Norman Finkelstein is anti-semitic. I am not sure why that is. In fact Israel considers him to be anti-semitic and has banned him from Israel for 10 years. He is far more anti-Israel than I am.

I am not anti-semitic, but I am anti-Israel. Not to the people of Israel, but the government and its expansionist policies. The various international investigators found no evidence of Hamas using human shields, but Israeli soldiers didnand have admitted such. You will find Norman Finkelstein saying the same thing.

In fact he regards Hamas firing rockets were in response to Israel's agression and not the other way round. Iran is certainly crazy or rather some of their leaders are. Hamas and Hizbollah have no intention of wiping out Jews and nor do I. As usual you have no evidence for your assertions. Israel should never have been created and that is really the problem.

Hamas have repeatedly that they would be happy to return to 1967 boundaries as a solution. It is Israel that stops the peace process. It is quite clear from the leaked PA documents that huge concessions were offered by the PA to Israel and Israel ignored them. Those concessions could not now be offered again. In fact it looks likely that the PA dare not sign a peace treaty at all now. The response from Hamas and Hizbollah would be very fast. Israel makes it quite clear that they don't want peace by the continued settlements of the West Bank and East Jerusalem.

In The Land of the B - 15 Apr 2011 12:51 - 4861 of 6906

Parrot "should never have been created and that is really the problem" LOL !

Gausie - 15 Apr 2011 13:48 - 4862 of 6906

Haystack: He is far more anti-Israel than I am.

Really? In what way is he 'far more anti israel' than you? What Israeli actions does he condemn that you don't? What Israeli actions do you approve of that he doesn't?

What facts or opinions have you based your statement on? Or was your statement, as seems likely, just more of your usual bullshit?

I'll bet 'some of your best friends are jewish', too.

Haystack - 15 Apr 2011 13:49 - 4863 of 6906

Israel was created without consulting the indigenous people living there at the time. That's why it should not exist.

You say that Norman Finkelstein is not ant-semitic. He even says that Israel is a Nazi-like state.

yuff - 15 Apr 2011 14:18 - 4864 of 6906

Wherever there is a problem and violence in the world today, one need look no further than the arabs. Atrocity after atrocity. suicide bombings against their own people, shia v sunni Gaddafi slaughtering his own 9/11 7/7 the list is endless. Throughout all this Israel stays quiet yet still somehow gets blamed.
Walk down Edgware Road in london and all you see are Arabs. London has been taken over by them. The Lancashire towns have Muslim councils running them now. In 25 years the Commons will be Muslim dominated and sharia law will rule. This is their aim. This is their goal. There is no need for violence-their population explosion in this country, France Germany and so on will ensure that Islam will be the ruling denomination in Europe.

And Haystack will be a mighty happy man.

In The Land of the B - 15 Apr 2011 14:30 - 4865 of 6906

Indeed, he would be the puppet parrot ruler for the Muslim Brotherhood.

Oh yes, some of his best friends are Jewish..........he even wrote here that he once went out with a Jewish girl !!!! He thinks that "proves" something.
His hatred of Jews probably stems from her rejection of him.

Parrot is illegal as he is occupying a human body without its permission.
He should be destroyed like Israel.
Heil Hayes !

TANKER - 15 Apr 2011 16:26 - 4866 of 6906

JERUSALEM (Reuters) - Palestinians in the Gaza Strip fired two rockets into Israel on Friday, police said, ending a lull in cross-border violence since an informal ceasefire took effect earlier in the week.

the simple answer is you can NOT talk to sub humans .
i am english and would sooner have a jew than any muslim
jews are hard working muslims just beg

Fred1new - 15 Apr 2011 16:29 - 4867 of 6906

Tanker,

And I think you are basically offensive.

TANKER - 15 Apr 2011 16:31 - 4868 of 6906

yuff . the inbreeding in muslims will wipe them out a virus is going to destoy them nature is king did you not watch dispatches on c4 .

Chris Carson - 15 Apr 2011 16:38 - 4869 of 6906

Love it TANK! Keep it going mate, the sooner this thread is nuked the better imo :O)

In The Land of the B - 15 Apr 2011 16:54 - 4870 of 6906

Yep !
Like the parrot's brain, it's well past its sell-by date.
Or it could be re-named,
"The Life of a Obsessive Compulsive Jew Hating Jew Baiting Parrot", an autobiography by Greg Hayes, includes a free copy of Greg's "My Final Solution to the Jewish Question".

Chris Carson - 15 Apr 2011 17:12 - 4871 of 6906

ILOB - Aye your right and anyone who offends Fred can't be all bad, the knobhead has made a career of offending posters and not just on this thread :O)

In The Land of the B - 15 Apr 2011 17:27 - 4872 of 6906

Thank you, sir ! I'm not all bad, though I try to be Nazis' worst nightmare LOL
I regard it as my duty and pleasure to offend Nazis and their fellow travellers :)
freddiefewbrains (despite his name) provides the pseudo-intellectual goading and baiting - like Hitler though without the charisma or persuasive abilities, weird looks, gay facial hair, though presumably with a full complement of bollox.......; Greg Hayes aka The Parrot is the mindless hate filled Goebbels/Streicher figure who is a wannabee Eichmann pretending to have nothing against Jews but constantly thinking up new ways of wiping out as many Jews and other undesirables as possible - as in get the wonderful Hamas and Hezbollah to attack and "liberate" Israel and put all the Jews in nice happy clappy concentration camps (oops ! Holiday Camps as H and H really love the Jews......); fahel is just the SS guard.

Quite what the thread title has to do with trading and investing is a bit beyond me.

Haystack - 15 Apr 2011 18:30 - 4873 of 6906

ITLOTB
You are closer to a Nazi than anyone else on this thread. You do provide some entertainment though.

In The Land of the B - 16 Apr 2011 08:33 - 4874 of 6906

You really have no originality, do you, parrot?
Repetition ad nauseum.
I expect nothing more from a Holocaust denier such as yourself.
Come to think of it, you actually look like David Irving !

TANKER - 16 Apr 2011 12:08 - 4875 of 6906

the reason that the people in gaza like war is because they dont like to work just
want to be given food . and yes i have been to the dirty place .
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