Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).

Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.

cheers GF.

Foot and Kinnock, a complete comedy act.

much more interesting (i think), is that no one anywhere seems to have attacked ukip and their populist sound-bite policies and how those might truly be implemented both financially and practically

Haze,

Your attempt to to smear Miliband reminds me of the book The Fourth Protocol, and the Philby letters , written by Frederick Forsyth giving what many think a warped view of politics in the 80s.

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Remember, this was the period of the Cambridge Five and elitist distorted view of communism. (Confusion of ideology and practicality.)

Unfortunately, you opinions seem more related to the that period of politics than the present.

I think Miliband is wise to hold his fire, rather than walk into the political Swamp of Con party and UKIP trying to out do each other.

I didn't think the Cons would be foolish enough to stoop so low.

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I think the book, while being fictitious, is a better read than some of the tripe you post.

Pop down to Party Central Office for some more hand outs and beliefs. The structure of the office must be similar to the Communist party systems in eastern Europe, the indoctrination patterns seem similar.

If we actually knew what UKIP's policies were then we might be able to attack 'em.

With bows and arrows and clubs.

take something really simple and fundamental to them ......
stop all immigration with immediate effect

take something really simple and fundamental to them ......
stop all immigration with immediate effect
yes the public want them out we only get the eu scum

well MrT, you didn't even start to approach the problem.

Should you do so, don't forget to address who will do all the low paid jobs (+ the ones for well-qualified immigrants) that few brits want to go anywhere near ......

i fear that (perpetual) benefits, while not exactly providing a comfortable lifestyle, make such jobs somewhat unappealing

Marussia have become the second F1 team to be placed in administration within days, it has been confirmed.

Administrators FRP Advisory said the Banbury-based team would will continue to operate but had already withdrawn from the forthcoming US Grand Prix.

Caterham, also based in Oxfordshire, was put in administration on Friday and will miss the US and Brazilian races.

Marussia driver Jules Bianchi remains in hospital, following a crash at the Japanese Grand Prix, on 5 October.

Bianchi sustained serious head injuries when his car was in collision with a tractor recovery vehicle.

Their other driver, Max Chilton, has yet to score even his first point.

In a statement, FRP Advisory confirmed the company, known as Manor Grand Prix Racing Limited and trading as Marussia F1 Team, "will continue to operate while the joint administrators assess the longer-term viability of the company in its present form".

Last week, the company that builds cars for the Caterham Formula 1 team went into administration, putting hundreds of jobs at risk and leading to staff being locked out of the team's site in Leafield.

On Friday, the bosses of Caterham F1 formally agreed to hand over the running of the team to administrators.

UKIP will be attacked on their policies once a difinitive list is published. In particular any economic policies will be torn apart by other parties. They have no resource to cost their policies. The other parties have economic models developed over the years based on the treasury model.

The accountants will soon have the cars going faster.

For all the good those economic policies have achieved, they might as well have not bothered.

Marussia will probably have had sponsorship money suspended due to Bianchi not racing.

Well UKIP seems to be in the same position as the tories, except the latter have had their fantasy policies costed out and rejected.

Best to let these teams fall by the wayside. They are going to remain unstable. Porsche are supposed to be returning to F1 in 2016.

oh do shut up fred ...... you're like a badly cracked record :-)

Re: Porch


Full car or parts?

I have the volume turned off and cannot hear the scratches!

Full Porsche team.

Good news re porch.

now all they need to do is use proper engines and manual gearboxes.