Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).

Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.

cheers GF.

Cynic,

"you posted saying the eu had brought jobs to the uk"

MrT reckoned i had posted that

In view of the incident this am, I think Cameron's security costs should be cut back after all, "we are all in it together" and he is having protection to an unnecessary level in these harsh times!

The idiot who "bumped" into him is lucky he is still alive, if that had happened in America he would be in a mortuary right now.

I thought you were going to write "the idiot would be in a mortuary right now.".

You have to be careful!

Interview on the BBC news right now with Margaret Evison who's son was killed in Afghanistan in 2009. She has written a book, "Death of a Soldier". It is an utter disgrace how these young lads were sent to war without the necessary equipment and not even enough water.

Edit , double post.

That's a bit of a left handed graph Haystack.


But it does tell a story....Joe public don't like any of them!

https://m.yahoo.com/w/legobpengine/frontpage/uk.finance/news/tony-benns-inheritance-tax-dodge-110522306.html?.b=%2Findex&.intl=GB&.lang=en-gb

An interesting article, Haystack.

It didn't seem to want to fit properly on my screen, so I Googled it and came up with this, which does seem to be a rather better version:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/personalfinance/tax/11189430/Tony-Benns-inheritance-tax-dodge-how-it-works-and-how-you-can-use-it-too.html

cynic - 27 Oct 2014 11:22 - 48603 of 48677

well MrT, you didn't even start to approach the problem.

Should you do so, don't forget to address who will do all the low paid jobs (+ the ones for well-qualified immigrants) that few brits want to go anywhere near ......

i fear that (perpetual) benefits, while not exactly providing a comfortable lifestyle, make such jobs somewhat unappealing

cynic this is why I posted about the low paid jobs we do not want or need the scum coming from the eu to do them cleaning cars working on farms I live in the country side and have all my life theses jobs were done by the local married women and those that needed a bit more cash

has for the immigrants working in the nhs most are lazy yes bloody lazy but can not be touched because of the race card the others are to scared to speak out facts not bloody fiction

It is a crazy world!

and the race card was the same in Rotherham Birmingham oxford Rochdale wellington and many more towns

low paid jobs we do not want or need the scum coming from the eu to do them cleaning cars working on farms I live in the country side and have all my life theses jobs were done by the local married women and those that needed a bit more cash

car washing and similar
so these jobs always existed, but the immigrants forced the locals out of them?
what total rubbish

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theses jobs were done by the local married women and those that needed a bit more cash

leaving aside the "cash in hand element", there is still nothing to stop "locals" from doing these jobs
however, many are now mechanised (hop picking for example) and others are damned hard work (apple picking) with little pay, as has always been the case

or moving on to the catering industry .....
how many of the waiters and waitresses in you local restaurants are "british"?
the "british" haven't been forced out of these jobs, but generally prefer not to do them

cynic the big farmers have employed a immigrant gang master and will NOT employ the locals they are crooks who take money from the immigrant workers they could not rip off the locals so of no gain for the master and yes I do no this as fact
and do know many lazy farmers to idle to wipe their own backsides