Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).

Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.

cheers GF.

al services benefits must be stopped for all immigrants and migrants to the uk until
they have paid taxes for 5 years and if they have broken the uk law then deport them the same day . we do not want the them. and they should be returned to the country they were last in then its up to that country to send them on back
and any one trying to cross the border put them to sleep put them on the next plane home

absolutely there is much wrong with the benefits system in this country and the whole is a veritable gordian knot.
goodness knows how anyone could make it simpler and fairer and properly applied as warranted

there are most assuredly cases where common sense says that someone should be entitled to benefits of one kind or another, yet the system refuses it

on the other hand, there are similar cases, actual or anecdotal or perceived, where "someone" knows how to work the system and comes out laughing every time

make it tougher to qualify for benefits by all means, but it has to be ensured that the baby does not get thrown out with the bathwater

cynic . you are correct in most you post .but when do you say enough is enough
we has tax payers should not be responsible for people from another country
if you have not paid in you should get nothing out .
the only thing left for the uk people is to get out of the eu and close our borders
unless they can prove they can support them selves . and we do not need any more low paid workers .the services are at breaking point and those that need the services
those that paid in and still paying are not getting the service .

action is needed and if the eu leaders are dead to the facts then we must leave the sinking ship before the rats take the reigns

cynic I have friends in Lincoln they are to scared to go out at night down to gangs of
migrants shouting abuse and cannot walk on the path . it is not nice to be to scared to go out their lives are ruined and should be enjoying their last few years of life it as been taken away by immigrants taking over the street shouting and drinking all night the police move them then they come back never ending circlle

http://www.thetimes.co.uk/tto/news/politics/article4251064.ece

Labour council rejects Miliband’s mansion tax plan

Ed Miliband is facing a rebellion among Labour councillors over his plan to impose a mansion tax.

One Labour-run council in London has officially voted to oppose the annual levy, which would be imposed on homes worth more than £2 million. Another senior Labour figure in the capital described the plan as “bonkers”.

MrT - i don't reckon many millwall and chelsea and other supporters of that ilk were other than what even you would classify as "british"!

the drunken slobs in magaluf and other salubrious holiday spots in the med are rarely other than "your" british

for all that, i have long concurred that uk needs to impose and actually operate and maintain much tighter border controls and repatriation of "serious" criminals
however, though the wretched do-gooders prevented the expulsion of abu qatada (there are others too), successive uk gov'ts have regularly embraced edicts from brussels and added further bells and whistles

knee-jerk reaction is to dump the european human rights act and introduce our own ..... however, that would inevitably bring about other significant unfairness and would be a step down the dangerous and slippery slope towards radical nationalism

I can see nothing wrong in having our own human rights act. Plenty of other countries have their own HRA and feel no need to join in anyone else's.

in 99% of human rights its only for the criminals . if you do not break the law in the uk you have nothing to fear . yes cynic the british yobs I am ashamed of them and the police should act and we should bring back the birch and lash those at the local football match ever Saturday that would put a stop to that

MrT - has it occurred to you that those self-same "british" yobs are quite likely the ones also making a disturbance and worse in their home towns?

but yes, i do agree that HRA and several other bits of legislation are far too skewed towards the poor criminal who has had such a rotten early life, with bugger all interest taken in the victim
i certainly wouldn't like to see the introduction of "blood money" as seen in m/e, but it does have a point

Hazyone,

Check the rules.

Parliament can call for an elections.

The route isn't as simple as previous.

But you are relying on semantics.


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In and out of the country, if they had introduced the electronic ID cards it would have helped to resolved the problem and reduce time in flow through the "border".

surely the new passports are almost exactly that
just for info, the french almost needless to say, have their own electronic system which will not recognise uk passports!

cynic I had nothing as a child and youth never ever had a xmas present just a orange . but I never broke the law and just told my self fight on and make your life better . my father died fighting for the uk he died for nothing .
I started to work at 10 yes 10 .

this scum wanting to come to the uk for a free life should stay in their country and fight for a better life not live of the backs of others . they are just cowards who want ever thing for nothing . go down to your local A/E it is full of them

Take your mortgage to the grave, older borrowers told

Banks will move some interest-only borrowers to 'lifetime mortgages' that they will never repay, as hundreds of thousands face a shortfall



By Dan Hyde, Consumer Affairs Editor

10:00PM GMT 28 Oct 2014





Older home owners will be told to take mortgages for life or leave their homes under plans to tackle Britain's interest-only mortgage crisis.


Several major banks will propose "lifetime" contracts to borrowers in their 50s and 60s who face a shortfall when their mortgage ends, The Telegraph understands.


The lenders will allow customers to repay just the interest on their debts until they die, at which point the properties will be sold and a large chunk of the proceeds passed to the bank.


Around 130,00 interest-only mortgages are due to expire every year until 2020, with half facing a shortfall of £71,000 on average, according to the City watchdog. One in 10 borrowers have no repayment plan in place at all.


On Tuesday night Santander, the Spanish bank which bought Abbey and Alliance & Leicester, said it would offer lifetime mortgages from 2015.

Other "big-name" banks were in discussions about offering similar contracts to older borrowers who faced a mortgage "time bomb", industry sources said.

Ros Altmann, the Government's older people tsar, said: "If you have an interest-only mortgage it effectively means your bank owns your home, you don't, that's the reality.

"Lenders are trying to keep people in their homes, rather than repossess them, and these new deals will ensure the bank still owns most of the house when they die."



There are 2.8 million interest-only mortgages in Britain, industry figures show, many of which were issued during a sales boom in the late Eighties and early Nineties.

However, an estimated 1.3 million are sitting on a “time bomb”, the Financial Conduct Authority watchdog has warned, as they have little or no hope of repaying the debt.



More: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/personalfinance/borrowing/mortgages/11194160/Take-your-mortgage-to-the-grave-older-borrowers-told.html

shame you weren't born a century earlier, for then you could have started work at 6 up the chimneys!

go down to A&E and you'll probably find it over-run with a selection of the same yobs and slobs that holiday in magaluf etc

by the way, weren't there an awful lot of colonial troops who fought and died for britain in both world wars?
am i not right in thinking that they were also treated abominably as and when they settled in uk?

if these so called asylum seekers were real asylum seekers why do they pass throw
several countries to get to the uk why are they not staying in france Germany spain
the answer is very simple those countries will not help them they will not even
let them claim any benefits . so why should the uk

we do not want them here. they can not claim asylum if they have already passed threw I another country

cynic did you serve your country yes or no simple question yes or no my family ever on e did and my two daughter now my grand daughter is in the raf

does anyone give a toss as to what your daughters and grand daughter are now doing, though we know that you bring that subject up at any opportunity

as for me, i was too young even for conscription, but during the war my father served in the merchant navy and my mother's brother in a tank regiment in north africa, not that any of that is particularly interesting or relevant

You couldn't make it up if you tried...




They STILL don't get it: MPs forced out in 2010 over expenses including a whirlpool bath, mirrors and carbon monoxide detector will stand for re-election in 2015

Seven former Labour MPs and two ex-Lib Dem members will stand again
This was despite having to step down over MPs expense scandal in 2010
Includes members caught claiming after flipping their main home address
All were entitled to pay-offs worth thousands of pounds when they left the Commons

By Jack Doyle and Tamara Cohen for Daily Mail

Published: 00:00, 29 October 2014 | Updated: 08:33, 29 October 2014



http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2811831/They-don-t-MPs-forced-2010-expenses-including-whirlpool-bath-mirrors-carbon-monoxide-detector-stand-election-2015.html

and how many tory mps?

cynic so you agree they died for nothing your words not interesting or relevant
they have gone and no longer matter in your view