mitzy
- 10 Oct 2008 06:29
kimoldfield
- 14 Jan 2016 08:04
- 4874 of 5370
That's the second downgrade in five months from BNP, Stan may have to eat a bit more of Ollie's hat!
HARRYCAT
- 14 Jan 2016 08:10
- 4875 of 5370
66p!!!!! What the hell is going on? :o(
HARRYCAT
- 14 Jan 2016 08:13
- 4876 of 5370
Hmmm.........62p support?
HARRYCAT
- 14 Jan 2016 12:40
- 4877 of 5370
Hard to believe that one broker note can do the damage, but seems Exane have done just that!
"We expect another disappointing year for UK banks. Our thoughts have developed a little since the publication of our last sector thematic, UK BANKS: Nowhere to hide, September 2015, but our fundamental concerns are the same.
1) The capital debate has progressed, with recent developments fairly positive for UK banks, but we still believe dividend distributions will disappoint. This is particularly the case for Barclays and LBG – indeed, we increasingly believe that the former should raise capital in 2016.
2) The operational outlook for banks remains bleak. This year we expect margins to decline, potentially appreciably, as a function of weaker asset yields, lower contributions from structural hedges, and the potential re-emergence of deposit competition. We also expect to see cost disappointment at certain banks. And unlike last year, weakness in pre-provision profit is unlikely to be rescued by lower impairment charges, with releases and recoveries starting to fall away.
While it is hard to argue that the sector is expensive, particularly following recent share price falls, the combination of continued dividend disappointment, capital uncertainty, and further disappointment on earnings, leads us to remain cautious.
RBS (Outperform). We believe the shares are cheap at current levels and provide considerable asymmetric risk for investors. However, we think performance will take time to emerge, with the key catalyst remaining a settlement relating to US RMBS.
HSBC (Neutral). Recent pronouncements on capital give credence to the idea that dividends are sustainable and at the current yield this provides downside support to the shares. Higher US interest rates should also eventually be supportive to margin but overall we think upside is limited.
Barclays (Underperform). We believe the bank is light on capital and the lack of action to address this is leading to lost opportunities to generate value and earnings accretion in the core businesses. A clear intent by Barclays to fix its capital position would likely lead us to upgrade our rating. But for now, we think capital concerns will linger and act as a drag on relative performance
LBG (Underperform). We believe dividend distributions and buybacks will disappoint. Furthermore, margin pressure will build as 2016 progresses, the bank is likely to miss its cost target, and impairments could begin to rise as releases and recoveries fall away.
Standard Chartered (Underperform). While superficially cheap, considerable risk remains around impairments which could eventually put capital under further pressure. We also expect revenues to disappoint and miss management targets – with ROTE not
reaching the COE for at least five years."
jimmy b
- 14 Jan 2016 13:17
- 4878 of 5370
Hard to believe that one broker note can do the damage, but seems Exane have done just that!
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Yes HARRY the other broker rec's don't seem to matter ...
13 Jan Exane BNP... 215.00 Underperform
12 Jan JP Morgan... 290.00 Overweight
11 Jan Deutsche Bank 303.00 Buy
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13 Jan Exane BNP... 74.00 Underperform
11 Jan Deutsche Bank 91.00 Buy
11 Jan Barclays... 95.00 Overweight
Stan
- 14 Jan 2016 13:52
- 4879 of 5370
As we know they only need one excuse boys.
2517GEORGE
- 15 Jan 2016 15:21
- 4880 of 5370
Bought back into LLOY
2517
HARRYCAT
- 15 Jan 2016 16:14
- 4881 of 5370
Yes, I am watching as well, but still think there is more downside to come.
2517GEORGE
- 15 Jan 2016 16:24
- 4882 of 5370
You are probably right HARRYCAT, especially now I'm back in. I like LVD, UEM plus 3 or 4 others that I will pick up over the coming weeks. On a 2 or 3 year view this is a buying opportunity imo if you can stomach the gyrations.
2517
HARRYCAT
- 18 Jan 2016 10:41
- 4883 of 5370
64p....still a little more to go, imo.
cynic
- 18 Jan 2016 12:28
- 4884 of 5370
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cynic
- 18 Jan 2016 12:31
- 4885 of 5370
lots of stocks are starting to look exceptional value, but if one accepts the caveat that what is cheap today may be cheaper tomorrow, then there may soon be a case for dipping one's toes back in the markets ...... but not today i think
HARRYCAT
- 18 Jan 2016 14:05
- 4886 of 5370
Will certainly have a dabble here if it hits 62p.
Claret Dragon
- 18 Jan 2016 16:10
- 4887 of 5370
How about 30p
HARRYCAT
- 18 Jan 2016 16:12
- 4888 of 5370
Is that a stab in the dark price or a serious suggestion?
Claret Dragon
- 18 Jan 2016 16:14
- 4889 of 5370
serious
HARRYCAT
- 18 Jan 2016 16:17
- 4890 of 5370
Hmmmm.....that would take us back to 2012 level. I think things have changed for LLOY since then, but....you never know!!!
Claret Dragon
- 18 Jan 2016 16:47
- 4891 of 5370
I wont be buying any Bank shares. They still have colossal debts from the last fall out.
Stan
- 18 Jan 2016 16:48
- 4892 of 5370
Can't disagree with that CD but everyone to there own.
dreamcatcher
- 18 Jan 2016 16:53
- 4893 of 5370