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THE TALK TO YOURSELF THREAD. (NOWT)     

goldfinger - 09 Jun 2005 12:25

Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).

Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.

cheers GF.

cynic - 31 Oct 2014 08:38 - 48839 of 81564

And you wouldn't get any Welsh Lamb.
that's ok Fred, my butcher gets his lamb locally and very good it is too, as he hangs it for 2 weeks :-)

Chris Carson - 31 Oct 2014 08:43 - 48840 of 81564

ED MILIBAND insists Labour’s general election battle “is no tougher than the fights we have faced in the past” - despite a new poll which suggests he is on course to lose 90% of his Scottish MPs to the SNP.

Mr Miliband acknowledged that Labour has had a “tough week” with the dramatic resignation of Scottish Labour leader Johann Lamont, but said its general election success and devolution referendum in 1997 and the success of Labour-led Better Together in September demonstrates that the party has won tough battles in the past.

Scottish MP Jim Murphy has launched a campaign to lead Scottish Labour and end the streak of “losing Labour” following two poor Holyrood campaigns.

• Leaderless and in freefall, the only way back for the Scottish party is to rigorously assert its independence, says Lesley Riddoch

He faces competition from MSPs Neil Findlay and Sarah Boyack, with many Labour members insisting an MSP should lead Scottish Labour to dispel Ms Lamont’s parting shot that UK Labour is treating it like “a branch office”.

A new Ipsos Mori poll for STV News found that 52% of Scots would vote for the SNP if there was a Westminster election tomorrow, meaning the SNP could secure 54 seats, with Labour’s current 40 reduced to four and the Liberal Democrats reduced to one.

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In a speech to Scottish Labour’s gala dinner in Glasgow tonight, Mr Miliband said: “We meet here after a tough week for our party in Scotland and after an extraordinary year when Scotland has gone through a profound debate about its future.

“We meet here proud that in September we won the battle to keep our country together.

“And we meet here above all determined to fight to show the Scottish people that Labour can be the change they want to see.”

He added: “We are just over six months from the general election.

“I look forward to working shoulder to shoulder with whoever the party in Scotland elects as leader to win that election.

“Over its history we have seen the Scottish Labour Party fight for the values our movement holds dear.

“We face a tough fight but no tougher than the fights we have faced in the past.

“The fight for workers’ rights 100 years ago which Scottish Labour led and won. The fight for an NHS which Scottish Labour led and won. The fight to get rid of the Tories in 1997 and establish a Scottish Parliament which Scottish Labour led and won. And the fight to keep our country together which Scottish Labour led and won.

“In the next six months I know the Scottish Labour Party will fight every hour and every day to deliver the changes the working people of Scotland need to improve their lives.”

• Tony Blair has insisted Ed Miliband “can and will” win the general election

There was a further blow for Labour as a second poll indicated a commanding SNP lead.

A YouGov study for The Times put the SNP on 43%, which would give them 47 seats in Westminster, with Labour on 27%, which would leave them with 10 MPs.

The Conservatives were on 15% and the Lib Dems on 4%, giving each party a single MP.

:: YouGov surveyed 1,078 adults between Octover 27 and 30.

Fred1new - 31 Oct 2014 08:44 - 48841 of 81564

If he has to hang it lamb 2 weeks to make it edible it ain't lamb.

Chris Carson - 31 Oct 2014 08:48 - 48842 of 81564

A number of replies to the Scotsman article above :0)




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ABSOLUTELY
8:36 AM on 31/10/2014
http://www.heraldscotland.com/mp-sarwar-s-son-jailed-for-fraud-1.860519
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MochaChoca
8:35 AM on 31/10/2014
Are we really to believe that any Scottish Labour MP (including shadow cabinet members or if, god forbid, they win the GE maybe actual ministers) will be answerable to their Scottish Labour MSP 'boss' rather than Ed?
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itwisnaeme
8:19 AM on 31/10/2014
We face a one-party state here unless Labour gets its act together.
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Noaxetogrind
8:17 AM on 31/10/2014
Miliband must be the most uninspiring and delusional party leaders for a long long time. He is doing a better job of persuading people to vote for other parties than they could dream of doing by themselves. Quite an achievement to oversee a party who could lose 90% of their seats in Scotland!
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Who to trust
8:09 AM on 31/10/2014
The face of labour..................if you don't like that 1 he can turn round and show his other!
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Nicholas Monserrat
8:02 AM on 31/10/2014
Poor Ed.

Your list of allies grows thin.
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THE LEGIA HUMILIATOR
8:01 AM on 31/10/2014
a lemming has more chance of rallying the labour supporters behind it than the glakit gormless boy who is not fit to press a zebra crossing button never mind being in charge of the nuclear button.
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wildbill74
7:58 AM on 31/10/2014
If I stick my head in the sand and send one of my lackeys up from London to take charge everything will be fine.

Why can't Ed see that he is the problem?
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geoff49
7:54 AM on 31/10/2014
Milliband's big ego like that of many politicians worldwide, prevents him from seeing what must be done. It is simple Ed-you must resign, and Scottish Labour must become an independent branch of the party. I am not a Labour supporter but as a Unionist can see that if these things do not happen, the SNP will wipe the floor with Labour.
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Rabigyin
7:48 AM on 31/10/2014
When the General Secretary of the "Scottish" Labour Party is a London appointment, how can it call itself "Scottish"?
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Damian Thirsty
7:45 AM on 31/10/2014
Was Maureen Lipman a guest at this bash last night ?

ho ho
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Robert Galbraith
7:44 AM on 31/10/2014
What he really said was, "Bow down before your Imperial London Masters, or I will crush your necks. You will choose my candidate. This Death Star is fully operational."
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Damian Thirsty
7:44 AM on 31/10/2014
"ED MILIBAND insists Labour's general election battle "is no tougher than the fights we have faced in the past"

Given the fact that the only time the Labour Party were electable in the last 30 years was when they embraced business friendly conservative policies, its clear that the political dogma of their internecine warfare, and the fact that the marxist unions made sure Red Ed won, rather than his brother who was reasonably competent, has come back to haunt them.

The conservative party and UKIP should make big gains as dissallusioned labour supporters wise up and reject the dual whinging victimhoods of socialism and nationalism.
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AberdeenFife
7:39 AM on 31/10/2014
How on earth can "Scottish" Labour rigorously assert its independence, when it is not and will never be a party independent of main Labour control. "Scottish" Labour will always have to toe the main party line

Fred1new - 31 Oct 2014 08:49 - 48843 of 81564


Your leader needs you to clear up one of his brighter ideas.


cynic - 31 Oct 2014 08:59 - 48844 of 81564

fred - well it's neither hogget nor mutton that's for sure and it certainly has plenty of flavour unlike the pappy stuff one gets from the supermarket

Fred1new - 31 Oct 2014 09:10 - 48845 of 81564

That pappy stuff is sent across the border from England for month's holiday and apply for Welsh status before being sent back to England as Welsh lamb and to be slaughtered.

Haystack - 31 Oct 2014 09:14 - 48846 of 81564

Now the deputy leader of Scottish Labour party has resigned. They have to have two elections now.

Haystack - 31 Oct 2014 09:18 - 48847 of 81564

Update - Conservatives lead at 1
by YouGov in Politics
Fri October 31, 2014 6 a.m. GMT

Latest YouGov / The Sun results 30th Oct - Con 33%, Lab 32%, LD 7%, UKIP 15%;

Chris Carson - 31 Oct 2014 09:31 - 48848 of 81564

Oooops!

cynic - 31 Oct 2014 09:41 - 48849 of 81564

chuckle (fred)!
personally, i'ld rather not buy either my meat, fish or poultry from the supermarket, but if 'Er Indoors always buys her organic(!) chix from the super ..... fortunately, i usually do the shopping for the fish and meat

with regards to "organic", i do feel it's a bit of a con to allow the supers to mark up extortionately .... for that matter, "free range" is often not quite what you think either ..... on the other hand, my butcher (fishmonger) has real free range, which of course makes them slightly chewier, so perhaps problematic for fred and his age group

MaxK - 31 Oct 2014 10:04 - 48850 of 81564

doodlebug4 - 31 Oct 2014 10:50 - 48851 of 81564

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2815115/Confirmed-foreign-aid-fuels-corruption-Official-watchdog-s-verdict-aid-spending-Cameron-defiantly-ring-fenced.html

Fred1new - 31 Oct 2014 13:08 - 48852 of 81564

What is Cameron trying to hide behind the wolf this time, just before the next G/E.

But all is well he has confidence he still has the wolf on a collar.


What a political scene we have and Wavy Dave rules over!

cynic - 31 Oct 2014 14:16 - 48853 of 81564

cannabis and the like are ok if it can be shown for personal consumption, but certainly not if you are a dealer

personally, i concur with the view that persistent use of cannabis, especially in its stronger forms, depletes brain cells and is also quite likely to lead on to other and even more harmful stuff

of course, the same might be said of cigarettes and even alcohol, and while i'ld happily ban the former, i'ld fight against the latter ..... such consistency!

Haystack - 31 Oct 2014 14:31 - 48854 of 81564

http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2014/oct/30/ed-miliband-labour-scotland-election-poll-snp-win

Ed Miliband has admitted that his party must “fight for every hour and every day” to hold on to its Scottish MPs after a shock poll predicted Labour could be wiped out by the Scottish National party next year.

The dramatic poll for STV said the SNP could win up to 54 Scottish seats and said Labour’s popularity was its lowest level since 2007, only a month after Labour had spearheaded a victorious referendum campaign against independence.

The poll put the SNP at a record high of 52% in Westminster voting intentions and Labour at just 23%.

In a separate poll for the Times, 43% of respondents said they would back the SNP in a general election up from 20% in 2010. Support for Labour fell to 27%, down from 42% at the last election. Just 15% of Scottish voters said they trusted Miliband.

Fred1new - 31 Oct 2014 14:46 - 48855 of 81564

It is strange when an applicant for an appointment is allowed 7 applications for a job.

Also, stranger when the Employer is involved with writing the applicant's application.

Also, picking somebody whose background is different to the necessities of the job is also interesting.

Mind she does have Theresa's interest and Dave's full confidence.

(A department of government which is demoralised.)

For me there is another stench in the back streets of London.

This is out of touch government and for a PR led government points to its continuing incompetence.

Be gone!!!

ExecLine - 31 Oct 2014 14:52 - 48856 of 81564

cynic

What you have to say about soft drug use is perfectly correct for both:

Legal Use
Illegal Use

Let's make soft drug use legal then.

If we did, it would not alter the "drugs are bad for you", "using soft drugs leads users on to using hard drugs" stance positions or arguments.

However, it would reduce the criminality of using soft drugs. They can then also then be obtained by users from better, now more legal sources; made of properly supervised and controlled purity; taxes can be levied; the law keepers can spend their time better; the bottom drops out of the lower end of the drug pushing market, etc., etc.

Haystack - 31 Oct 2014 14:55 - 48857 of 81564

UKIP Well Short in South Yorkshire



Labour: 50.02%

UKIP: 31.66%

Tories: 12.52%

English Democrats: 5.8%

Fred1new - 31 Oct 2014 15:06 - 48858 of 81564

This is often repeated statement "using soft drugs leads users on to using hard drugs"

I wonder?

Could it not be The "Some of users of soft drugs often move on to using "harder" drugs."

If there is a change of attitude towards drugs, then the infrastructures have to be present before the "rules" or "laws" are changed.

That means "dispensers" and control regulations of the dispensing.

Facilities for treatment of those to be thought of addictive.


Major change of law for the "chemists", who will attempt to produce illegal "mind" affecting drugs.

I would hope long term sentences for this group of 15-20 year terms, with confiscation of property etc..
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