Thought I'd start a new thread as this is going to be a major talking point this year...have not made up my mind yet...(unlike bucksfizz)....but thinking of voting for an exit as Europe is not doing Britain any good at all it seems....

Haystack you don't seem to get it...The courts and parliament could rule against
the referendum decision, I doubt very much that the courts will due to it been
a democratic process with all conditions known beforehand, As to UKIP not being
able to do anything about it...Of course there is something that UKIP can and WILL
do if there is a stitch up, and that would be to stand against the establishment parties
on the betrayal and so called democracy being denied to the majority of voters wishes.

As to, If Corbyn wins the Labour leadership contest, then it stands to reason that
there is no way that the Labour party will stay as it is, it would have to split.

You have to remember that 50% more or less voted remain, so they won't vote UKIP. There are now regretted who wishes they had voted remain. Then there is the people who didn't vote. Some areas are staunch Labour and Tory and would never vote UKIP. UKIP could certainly gain a few MPs but not enough to change things.

You seem to have missed the point Haystack, like the rest of your fellow travellers in the remain camp.

People didn't vote for ukip, they voted to leave the €U....and won!

But at a GE enough will revert to type to make UKIP irrelevant.

It would make every general election null and void then , we can just get the court to overturn it.
Haystack your post 4885 is a repeat ,you keep saying 50% voted IN and lots of folk who voted OUT now regretted it ,you don't know that .
We (the public) voted OUT get used to it ,no one will overturn it and if there is any stitch up by the current gov you will see mass protest and a HUGE rise in UKIP votes , yes a HUGE rise in UKIP votes .
You seem to think the public are stupid and beneath you ,grow up.

The court would not be overruling the referendum. They would be saying that parliament still needs to pass the result as a Bill (law). This gives parliament the option of voting it down. I hope they don't. There would not be a big enough rise in UKIP to make a difference.

There would in Labour areas in Wales and the north of England.

People already turning from Corbyn's Labour in droves and it may only need a dozen or so UKIP MP's to hold the balance of power.

Conservative areas with high immigration would probably fall to UKIP if Parliament voted down Brexit.

Could they fall that low?

Who , Parliament ?

Nah , Brexit will happen so the remainers should stop moaning and start getting used to the idea.

If you mean Labour and Conservative voters then we have already seen it in the Welsh Assembley elections.

It seems that Brexit "may" happen, but does that mean the same rules and regulation without any voice or ability to change them.

Funny, how the "exiters" could moan away about in EU for 30 years while wanting out, but the "remainers" now should not be allowed similar "rights".

One rule for some and another for others.

Germany Hints At EU 'Special Status' For UK

http://news.sky.com/story/uk-could-keep-special-status-with-eu-10540387

Of course the UK will get special treatment, we are too big a market for
them to get stroppy.

LOL

However, I would expect us to pay some money and accept some freedom of movement. Otherwise, it will encourage some other countries to leave as well.

Most people would think that would be acceptable.

A 'special deal' would be a good solution. We have a lot to offer the EU, even outside of being members of it. eg. Security information and help, military help and expertise, diplomatic skills, etc, etc.

Well i don't think you will get the likes of Lithuania, Romania, Hungary, etc
leaving, them being reliant on the massive handouts that they receive.

And i've yet to see any exports from these mega world beating economic
powerhouses..Besides their 'skilled' car washers of course..

Ipsos/Mori poll just out

Voting intention figures show the Conservatives widening a lead over Labour to their highest since 2009. The Conservatives currently stand at 45%, compared with Labour at 34%, the Liberal Democrats at 7% and UKIP at 6%.

Most people.

Where do the Mosts live?

When Italy's banking system goes tits up and is not allowed to fail, that's when other countries will leave.
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