Thought I'd start a new thread as this is going to be a major talking point this year...have not made up my mind yet...(unlike bucksfizz)....but thinking of voting for an exit as Europe is not doing Britain any good at all it seems....

Unfortunately, almost all of the other polls show remain well in the lead.

https://euobserver.com/eu-china/128144

The EU Wednesday officially announced it would impose anti-dumping duties on Chinese and Taiwanese steel imports in Europe.
The EU published in its official journal a list of import duties on stainless steel cold rolled flat products (SSCR) of 24-25 percent for Chinese companies and 10-12 percent for Taiwanese companies.

Part of the problem is that the US is adding a 266% tariff to some steel from China. This causing an even bigger over supply in China, so they are dumping it on the EU etc.

http://www.wsj.com/articles/u-s-imposes-266-duty-on-some-chinese-steel-imports-1456878180

Haystack (490) The EU officially announced it would impose anti-dumping duties on Chinese and Taiwanese steel imports in Europe..On Stainless steel cold rolled flat products(SSCR) of 24-25 per cent.

That's in the same vein as the Chinese imposing the 46% tariff on The high grade steel produced in the UK, in that the Chinese don't import if any of that steel..

And its the same with that Stainless steel rolled flat (SSCR), 3.7 million tonnes were produced last year, of which 72% was by European producers...That leaves 28% produced by the rest of the world, So the EU putting that 24-25% tariffs is pretty much immaterial..

But the general iron has a 9.5-13% tariff as stated earlier.

US is imposing 266% duty on some Chinese steel...

Yes they are certainly in a position to take that action to LOOK AFTER THEIR INDUSTRIES...

But the US are quite happy to try and cajole the UK in voting to remain in the eu, maybe its because the US is quite happy to allow europe to get dumped on, without the fear of the UK or any other independent country from imposing the same tariffs as the US..

It wouldn't solve the problem if we set very high tariffs because we would lose markets. We produce more steel than we can consume.

I had to laugh at this one......"This is causing an even bigger over supply in China, so they are dumping it on the EU etc."


Yes my heart bleeds, What about closing down some of their steel mills just like whats in store for those around the UK...

Or is it just the UK's steel mills that have to take the brunt of all this over supply?...

We've lost market share to the Chinese due their over supply and cheap dumping..And due also to the HIGH energy cost that is added to energy bills for climate change and other greens cons by being in the eu....

Actually the green costs are added by the UK. The energy costs in Germany are far lower than here.

National insurance figures set to inflame Brexit
Official data expected to show more European migrants work in UK than previously indicated


well there's a surprise!
and how many "extras" from all sources have learned how to manipulate the system for benefits with no input?

It's the worst kept secret that there are around 1.3 million more than our government would have us believe, and that's without the 1 million or so illegals.
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You could always help out.

Leave the country.

Take Manuel and JB with you.

8-)

No wonder Mervyn King said the EU would destroy Britain , we will be spending fortunes on NHS and services just to stand still , plus the benefits to pay out this is without these other countries yet to fully join , you can bet hoards will make there way over here , and it's all looked over by the stayers .

Haystack "Actually the green cost are added by the UK"

What about the EU European Trading Scheme (ETS)...Agree not as much as the UK adds but still payable...

Well there's a headline Merky won't like on AM news , German factory orders dive in February . What they gonna do with all them Syrians now .

What a prat you really are Fred.
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Have you only just noticed that GEORGE ?

The UK is paying out £700m a year more for the medical costs of British people in the EU than it recoups from other member states for the treatment of their citizens in the UK, Brexit campaigners have said.

Vote Leave, one of the leading groups campaigning to exit the EU, said its new data showed the UK was “getting a bad deal” from the rest of Europe when it came to the reimbursement of medical costs.


The claims sparked an immediate counterattack from Britain Stronger in Europe, the leading remain campaign.

The remain camp said it was proof that Brexit campaigners would expect British holidaymakers in Europe to pay for their own medical care.

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the above is a good example of why it is impossible to get a straight answer on anything in this debate

in fact, when my wife had to see a doctor in france a few years back - potentially serious problem - we had to pay ...... theoretically, we might have been able to go to a hospital and then reclaim, but .......

also
it is not expensive to have medical travel cover and is often included in the package of other travel insurance

one gets the impression that uk hospitals find it too much of a fag - prob much paperwork too - to collect money at the door, though private clinics have no such difficulty

Was or is there a form 111 to fill in before you go abroad , might be wrong , to cover you while on holiday for illness .

You fill a form in then you get a eu health card...BUT they always recommend that you get private medical insurance anyway.

At one time the eu health care didn't cover certain medical conditions, whether they do now, i'm not sure?

Its true what you say about UK hospitals finding it a bind to claim back the cost, not only from eu citizens but those health tourist who come from around the globe, one of the reasons is simply that the NHS is free at source and so find it restrictive to chase for payment..Unlike other EU countries.

As to private clinics not having difficulty getting paid, that's because you have to supply credit card details/private medical insurance, BEFOREHAND..