m0neyb0b
- 26 Nov 2004 07:30
Just cannot understand recent SP volatility!
As a Dana shareholder I find it difficult to
find any reason to sell, even at current price. The Company has recently
entered a number of agreements which will have
considerable benefits:-
1. Reserves from 31st December 2003 of 123.7 mmboe
must now be in the region of 200.0 mmboe.( 100 million
North Sea 70 million Mauritana 30 million Russia ).
2. Production will rise to 25-27 thousand boepd in
2005 from 18 thousand in 2004.
3. At 30th June 2004 a Net cash position which will
have been enhanced significantly year to date.
4. Exciting exploration potential.
5. Management that seem to know what they are doing
with an excellent chief executive.
6. Recent deals by other oil companies have seen oil
assets bought at prices between 7-11 dollars a barrel
( see last weeks Investors Chronicle ) Dana must have
a value well in excess of the current 300 million.
I am holding firm and looking towards 800 pence.
Any other views out there?
Greyhound
- 05 Aug 2008 14:07
- 489 of 659
everything can always half! ;)
does seem crazy when you look at the fundamentals
Greyhound
- 05 Aug 2008 14:20
- 490 of 659
Now I'm getting very tempted to double up
HARRYCAT
- 05 Aug 2008 14:26
- 491 of 659
Might be worth waiting for FED interest rate decision today.
$ getting stronger & Oil price weakening.
Greyhound
- 05 Aug 2008 14:30
- 492 of 659
Too late ;).
My view is that the Fed isn't doing anything for a while.
(just listening to Bloomberg tv, probability of fed hikes now coming later rather than sooner)
mitzy
- 05 Aug 2008 15:12
- 493 of 659
The Naked Trader said on Friday that these were cheap.. they are now.
down 100p.
halifax
- 05 Aug 2008 15:20
- 494 of 659
What price oil next week? Maybe Goldman are playing a clever game or will they end up squirming?
Greyhound
- 05 Aug 2008 15:28
- 495 of 659
Not over the long term. Oil prices have generally exceeded price expectations by about some 30% (I was reading).
A rather obscure but canny little hedge I have against Dana, is long term holder of Asos, (ASC). Been working nicely over time.
mitzy
- 06 Aug 2008 10:33
- 496 of 659
I'm adding at these levels.
dealerdear
- 06 Aug 2008 10:52
- 497 of 659
Interesting that banks have come off their highs today rather more than they have done intra day over the past couple of weeks. PMO is also showing signs of life.
Is this the turn around from banks back to miners/oilers?
mitzy
- 06 Aug 2008 11:02
- 498 of 659
I was thinking that too dealer could it be the Banks have run out of steam and oils will benefit.
dealerdear
- 06 Aug 2008 11:08
- 499 of 659
Freddie Mac numbers disappoint
mitzy
- 06 Aug 2008 11:34
- 500 of 659
Making a come back I'm fully invested in Dana and Vpc.
dealerdear
- 06 Aug 2008 12:28
- 501 of 659
Interesting.
Why has PMO gone up and not DNX?
Falcothou
- 06 Aug 2008 12:42
- 502 of 659
Bought back in today at 1233 after being stopped out at 1380, see if the 12 offers any more support
Saintserf
- 06 Aug 2008 21:13
- 503 of 659
Yeah, I chose to buy today at 12.52. There's a lot of support at 12 pounds so I'll give the chartists the benefit of the doubt. I kept money back in case it drops more, when it will become more of a bargain. But I hope and think 12 should offer a floor to the price. Interestingly, the retreat in the oil price means shares have risen today, including nonsensically oil shares. duh! sentiment. When oil drops people get so excited that markets will rebound, well dana's been benefiting from the high oil price. Sentiment makes fools of us all. now dana's dropped back to the price of last november, when it had not had 8 months exposure to the high oil price, and more significantly hadn't had a find which added 25% to its reserves and therefore value. I wonder if it fell partly because there was simply no meaningful support from 19 to 12. But this example shows how hollow technicalanalysis is because that jump was for a reason, something new which justified an overnight rerating. Have faith investors. It might not go up tomorrow but it will sometime.
We held dana for 2.5 years, buying at 12 it then fell to 8 a couple of times in the intervening years. We just forgot about it. Then it started jumping from 10, 12 - 14 on the charts, we nearly sold out at 14, the height on the charts for a meagre 10% chart. Fortunatley, we held off and then it jumped on its find, we didint sell, and still hold this , which is annoying, but cest la vie. There was a reason we didnt sell at 19, and that it that it is fundamentally cheap with lots of potential new finds.
Is there a better share out there at a better price than Dana? Maybe Billiton or AQP but in those cases the commodity price has dropped significantly.
Ilike Cairn Energy as well. It's good because the longer they take to get their oil out the more the price of their substantial assets rises. Theyjust have to sit on it.
HARRYCAT
- 06 Aug 2008 21:55
- 504 of 659
The only fly in the ointment though is Iran as far as DNX is concerned & as far as the analysts are concerned. That little problem isn't going to go away any time soon.
Saintserf
- 06 Aug 2008 23:09
- 505 of 659
Well yes, in the sense that it would depress the whole market and oil shares too. But, in this upside down world, the oil price would go up were any action to be taken which would benefit Dana at some point. What chances, a cheeky bid for Dana, ala the one for lonmin today. I'm not surprised Lonmin gave short shrift Xstrata knew Lonmin had been artificially downvalued and were at it. The boards will just wait for value to out. I've just been watching Warren Buffett on CNBC. He looks for inefficiencies and then buys and waits.
I've often thought no-one should be allowed to work in the money markets (analysts, or whatever) until they've invested their own money in a share and held it while it halves. Seeing how you cope under such circumstances gives you fortitude when it happens again. Of course, you have to know what you're doing to buy a good company at a good price initially.
Take heart from Elementis today. I bought at 86 a year ago. It went up to 102 twice I didn't sell , then dropped to about 50p. I couldn't understand it, thought about buying more, didn't , now it's up to 90 today. I'm in profit but I should have trusted my convictions to buy more. I think there's always a part of investors which thinks, if it's dropped almost 50% or so, could there be something wrong, something we don't know about, which produces more selling and sometimes there is. But if you're confident in your research you should be able to sleep at night.
I like the copy of the Intelligent Investor with up to date examples by Jason Zweig, I think it's brilliant. He says that when good shares are 50% down it's like a
SALE Everything half-price, and guess what, great news tomorrow they might drop another 20% price. Wouldn't that be great!
Greyhound
- 07 Aug 2008 08:13
- 506 of 659
Goldman out with buy/attractive rec today, target 2140p
I expect to see us recovering to the 200dma in pretty quick time (currently 1460p)
Greyhound
- 07 Aug 2008 08:19
- 507 of 659
Goldman also saying "potentially attractive acquisition target".
Falcothou
- 07 Aug 2008 08:25
- 508 of 659
A bid on any in the sector would provide a welcome boost, check out lonmin yesterday!