Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).

Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.

cheers GF.

Rhys Jones moving abroad? Job done.

ha ha he he yep I was going to say same Stan good one, send that t-at Simon Cowel and the rest of the team plus all those 2nd raters at Strictly with him aswel, PLUS all the England useless football team aswel.

Max

"03 Nov 2014 21:05 - 49093 of 49103

We could make a start by paying people a proper living wage, without the top up's required by the taxpayer.

How mad is it to require employers to pay a minimum wage that is not enough to live on?"



Max, In some ways I don't mind the wages being topped up from "general taxation".

Especially in start up companies and areas which may enable "unemployed" back into the workforce. etc.

What I object is the lying government shrinking the public service area and boasting that the private area are taking up the "slack".

Of course they are, they are being subsidised for doing so, and instead of money going into the necessary public services, a high percentage is diverted into the pockets of the private area employers as "profits".

Ie. less money going where it is necessary and into the government backers and financiers.

(I am not against capitalism, entrepreneurs, banks etc. and was self employed for the majority of my life. But this government is an insult!

If seen from the outside the UK is becoming a banana republic with wealthy villains welcome, especially with pearls in their briefcases, but rejection for lesser mortals, or foreigners. (Especially, if they play tennis.)


It is the B. lies which get me, and the public are being made to look like suckers.

It is corrupt actions of a corrupt government!

Absolutely Fred......

"What I object is the lying government shrinking the public service area and boasting that the private area are taking up the "slack".

Of course they are, they are being subsidised for doing so, and instead of money going into the necessary public services, a high percentage is diverted into the pockets of the private area employers as "profits".

Ie. less money going where it is necessary and into the government backers and financiers."..................ends

We could start at A4E where that rich tart employs the FAIRY JOBS MOTHER to get trainees (supposed to be apprenticeships ...LOL) part time jobs at Poundland.

Remember it on a channel 4 Documentary.

Lord Ashcroft’s weekly poll today has topline figures of

CON 30%(-1), LAB 29%(-2), LDEM 10%(+3), UKIP 16%(-2), GRN 6%(+1).

This is the first time a poll showing Labour below 30% since 2010.

Just breaking.......Kevin Maguire ‏@Kevin_Maguire 1 minute ago
Norman Baker's quit as a Minister. Trouble at t'mill for the ConDem coalition.

BLAMES THERESA MAY.

S-it as hit the Fan for the Tories then.

Bit by bit Labour is heading down the drain.

LOL hes part of the coalition you banana.

Labour is sinking almost as fast as Miliband, the Titanic of the political world.

EU threatens to fine Britain £70 million a month

George Osborne says that "Europe is not working" for Britain as Brussels threatens punitive fines over £1.7 billion bill





Chancellor George Osborne

George Osborne says Europe is not working for Britain Photo: PA







Bruno Waterfield
By Bruno Waterfield, and Steven Swinford

10:00PM GMT 03 Nov 2014

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The European Union will hit Britain with punitive fines of almost £70 million a month next year if David Cameron refuses to pay a £1.7 billion bill from Brussels.


Mr Cameron last month said he will refuse to pay the "completely unacceptable" bill and warned that it will reduce the chances of Britain staying in the EU.


The EU is now threatening to charge Britain an annual interest rate of 52 per cent, equivalent to £823 million, if it refuses to pay the full amount by December 1.


George Osborne, the Chancellor, will travel to Brussels on Friday for a meeting of EU finance ministers in an attempt to reduce the bill ahead of the deadline.


Tory MPs described the £2.3 million a day of interest payments as so exploitative that they would make "the most predatory payday loan shark blush".


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It came as senior Tories clashed with Angela Merkel, the German Chancellor, over plans to reduce the number of immigrants coming to Britain.

Mrs Merkel suggested she would rather see Britain leave the European Union than change the rules on freedom of movement, describing that the principle as "non-negotiable".

However, Mr Osborne said that "Europe is not working" for Britain and pledged to drive through freedom of movement reforms.

He suggested that European migrants should not move to Britain unless they have a job lined up and insisted that Germany "understands the disquiet" that people in Britain feel about the high levels of immigration.

Iain Duncan Smith, the Work and Pensions Secretary, said that foreigners could be barred from claiming tax credits to boost their wages for three years, a move which could be achieved without new regulations.

He said that Britain and a number of other European countries including Germany, Spain, France, Holland and Denmark are united in the belief that "something has gone wrong" with the current rules.

He said: "Most of that can be done by changing the regulations and the rules within the existing agreements. We are already pressing on others and getting a remarkable degree of agreement. Even Mrs Merkel agreed with that."

Details of the fine, however, are likely to further strain relations with Europe. According to EU officials, the fine for the first month will be charged at 2.5 per cent of the outstanding bill, equivalent to £41 million.

It will then rise by 0.25 per cent a month, hitting 5.5 per cent by December 2015 – equivalent to £90 million. The European Commission made it clear on Monday that the Government will be legally obliged to pay the extra interest if its does not pay up the extra money on 1 December following a “correction” of Britain’s EU contributions.

“All these corrections have to be reimbursed by 1 December,” said a commission spokesman. “Everybody has to pay what is due. If payment is not made by 1 December then there is the process of interest rates.”

The extra budget demand follows a revision of the value of Britain’s wealth, a statistic known as gross national income (GNI) over the period 1995 to 2013. Under the revision, which applies to all EU countries, France will receive cash back worth £790 million because its economy has performed worse than Britain’s.

Dominic Raab, a Conservative backbencher, said: "This unscrupulous rate of interest would make the most predatory payday loan shark blush. To many hard-working Britons, this just makes the EU look like an exploitative scam.

'The government should fight the idea of fines for economic success and rewards for failure to reform tooth and nail. If not, it just strengthens the case of those arguing the UK should leave altogether."

DWP orders man to work without pay for company that let him go

John McArthur is sanctioned by jobcentre after refusing ‘forced labour’ at firm where he was previously paid minimum wage


Shiv Malik


The Guardian, Monday 3 November 2014 17.27 GMT





A man who was let go at the end of a temporary job has been ordered by the Department for Work and Pensions (DWP) to work for the same firm for six months without pay.

Electronics specialist John McArthur, now unemployed, says he is living off 16p tins of spaghetti and without heating after being sanctioned by a jobcentre for refusing to work unpaid for LAMH Recycle in Motherwell, a Scottish social enterprise.

He says he was happy to work for LAMH under the now-defunct future jobs fund for the minimum wage in 2010-2011, but refuses on principle to do the same job unpaid.

McArthur, 59, says he is surviving on a monthly pension of £149 after the DWP stopped his unemployment benefit until January as punishment for his refusal to go on the 26-week community work placement (CWP).



More: http://www.theguardian.com/society/2014/nov/03/dwp-benefits-electrician-work-placement-labour

That is pathetic Max, but sadly thousands of people are being treat in the same way, because of these sanctions.

Little wonder Food Banks are growing and growing.

The Nasty Party at work again.

Ingenious
sticky - i care not who benefits from avoiding tax through legit means ...... HMRC has no morals at all, so where does such come into the equation?

indeed, i still can't get HMRC to live by their own rules and 18 months on, i am still awaiting a vat rebate of about £30k

Ahhhhhh thats why you hate them so much, £30, grand owed.

Must admit its all about making sure we the tax payer pay up but the other way around?.

Get a sickly feeling every time I get a brown letter with BELFAST marked on it.

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Osborne's letter to the public which misleads on welfare is pitting a section of society against each other whilst we ignore rip off at top

Just closed my MKS long at a small loss, results tomorrow, have been reading for the first time a big hedge fund is shorting it.

Plus IG sentiment reading 67% of clients short.

A sign of the times I suppose. ............plus a long warm summer.

Lowest Labour rating since 2010 elections in the latest poll of polls


http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/lowest-labour-rating-since-2010-elections-in-the-latest-poll-of-polls-9836836.html



A couple of comments from the above article:



Gully Foyle 8 minutes ago


The Labour MP for Rochdale, Simon Danczuk, wrote an excellent blog on 02.11.14 on the Telegraph. It explained, very rationally and reasonably, how uncontrolled immigration has damaged the employment prospects of working class people across the north of England. Frank Field has blogged recently on the same subject, and has a book out next year, 'Blue Labour; forging a new politics'.
If these real, working class stalwarts of the Labour party can have this dialogue with the electorate, why are the shadow cabinet seemingly incapable of it?
I leave you with a quote from Danczuk; 'Commentators frequently anguish over 'left wing' and 'right wing' policy differences in Westminster, but the reality is there are only two types of politics on offer in the UK. That's metropolitan politics and rest of the country politics'.
I think that sums up rather neatly why Labour are doomed.




TWilson 15 minutes ago



I'm sorry, but I simply do not understand nor can I comprehend why 64% of those polled would vote for either Labour or Tory.

We know for a fact that labour have no financial sense and have ruined this country with their open border policies (which they still will not resolve if elected). Blair and Brown were both a disaster for this country.

The Tories have doubled the national debt and reneged on most of their election promises. They have persecuted the old and poor. We know they will never give us a vote on the EU and spent billion on vanity projects (HS2/3).

Where both are concerned, they have betrayed the voting public with the expenses scandals (which they now choose to hide from us), pay rises way above inflation and a whole host of other 'slap in the face' type policies and actions.

Are they sorry for what they have done? No, not one bit. Are they going to reform their ways? No. Are they listening to the voting public? No.

The above is just the tip of this very large iceberg of where these two parties ave systematically dragged this country into the murky depths. They both are going to continue on as if nothing has happened.

Yet, this poll suggests that 64% will vote either Labour or Tory and want more of the same from these two bunch of idiots?

Totally unbelievable. I despair.

Max dont forget you have to add on 1.7% to Labours total because of first past the post system so in fact the Labour % is 34.7%.

They are looking for 35%which will be achievable after the Reckless By Election and further Tory defections.

Cake Walk.