Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).

Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.

cheers GF.

Ahhhhhh thats why you hate them so much, £30, grand owed.

Must admit its all about making sure we the tax payer pay up but the other way around?.

Get a sickly feeling every time I get a brown letter with BELFAST marked on it.

WOWcampaign ‏@WOWpetition 4m minutes ago

Osborne's letter to the public which misleads on welfare is pitting a section of society against each other whilst we ignore rip off at top

Just closed my MKS long at a small loss, results tomorrow, have been reading for the first time a big hedge fund is shorting it.

Plus IG sentiment reading 67% of clients short.

A sign of the times I suppose. ............plus a long warm summer.

Lowest Labour rating since 2010 elections in the latest poll of polls


http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/lowest-labour-rating-since-2010-elections-in-the-latest-poll-of-polls-9836836.html



A couple of comments from the above article:



Gully Foyle 8 minutes ago


The Labour MP for Rochdale, Simon Danczuk, wrote an excellent blog on 02.11.14 on the Telegraph. It explained, very rationally and reasonably, how uncontrolled immigration has damaged the employment prospects of working class people across the north of England. Frank Field has blogged recently on the same subject, and has a book out next year, 'Blue Labour; forging a new politics'.
If these real, working class stalwarts of the Labour party can have this dialogue with the electorate, why are the shadow cabinet seemingly incapable of it?
I leave you with a quote from Danczuk; 'Commentators frequently anguish over 'left wing' and 'right wing' policy differences in Westminster, but the reality is there are only two types of politics on offer in the UK. That's metropolitan politics and rest of the country politics'.
I think that sums up rather neatly why Labour are doomed.




TWilson 15 minutes ago



I'm sorry, but I simply do not understand nor can I comprehend why 64% of those polled would vote for either Labour or Tory.

We know for a fact that labour have no financial sense and have ruined this country with their open border policies (which they still will not resolve if elected). Blair and Brown were both a disaster for this country.

The Tories have doubled the national debt and reneged on most of their election promises. They have persecuted the old and poor. We know they will never give us a vote on the EU and spent billion on vanity projects (HS2/3).

Where both are concerned, they have betrayed the voting public with the expenses scandals (which they now choose to hide from us), pay rises way above inflation and a whole host of other 'slap in the face' type policies and actions.

Are they sorry for what they have done? No, not one bit. Are they going to reform their ways? No. Are they listening to the voting public? No.

The above is just the tip of this very large iceberg of where these two parties ave systematically dragged this country into the murky depths. They both are going to continue on as if nothing has happened.

Yet, this poll suggests that 64% will vote either Labour or Tory and want more of the same from these two bunch of idiots?

Totally unbelievable. I despair.

Max dont forget you have to add on 1.7% to Labours total because of first past the post system so in fact the Labour % is 34.7%.

They are looking for 35%which will be achievable after the Reckless By Election and further Tory defections.

Cake Walk.

Not so sure gf.

The kipper effect is going to play merry hell with the results in the marginals.

As for how it will effect the once safe seats of both labour and conservatives, who knows?

Nu Lab very nearly lost the last by-election in what was a very safe labour seat. And the tories are about to lose a con safe seat (if the polls are anywhere accurate)

Then you have the Dim/Libs, who (again by the polls) are going to get annihilated.


It's all to play for imo.

Surely, you don't think UKIP could run the country. UKIP are a good protest party, but not capable of running anything. They may cause problems in the balance of power in some seats, but are not going to end up with any power.

Bet they get 20 seats at least. Some from labour aswel.

Who said anything about the kippers running the country?

It's about upsetting the cosy complacent status quo.


Also, the present lot and the ones before didn't do a very good job, now did they?

It may upset the balance, but you will still have one of two parties.

http://yougov.co.uk/news/2014/11/03/dont-write-off-liberal-democrats/

Looking at wider voting considerations – rather than stated voting intentions – suggests the Liberal Democrats have the potential to exceed expectations

I expect the Libs to do very well. The poor showing in the polls does not affect them much as it is an average figure across the country. It only matters in their own constituencies. The Libs have always had very solid support in a specific areas. They may well lose seats that they picked up in 2010 but the rest are pretty safe. They have very well organised party machinery in each area, particularly in constituencies where they have MPs for a long time. They hold databases of every voter in the constituencies built up over many years. They are very good getting their supporters out to vote. They ring people up on the day to remind them and take them by car to the polls. I was a volunteer working for them years ago and was amazed how efficient they are.

Its getting closer and closer but my thoughts are it will be a LAB/SDP coalition government come May/June.

absolute contempt.



MPs to escape investigations over alleged expenses abuse after paperwork 'destroyed'



MPs accused of abusing parliamentary expenses will be harder to investigate under a new system after House of Commons officials "destroyed" paperwork relating to their claims, it has been revealed.


Commons Speaker John Bercow has been accused of heading a new cover-up following the destruction of records relating to claims made before 2010, when a new policy of disposing records after three years was introduced in the wake of the expenses scandal, the Daily Telegraph reported.



More: http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/mps-to-escape-investigations-over-alleged-expenses-abuse-after-paperwork-destroyed-9834575.html?origin=internalSearch

Yep but the newspaper (Telegraph) that started the investigation as retained all the records on THEIR database, so hard luck cheating politicians.

Haystack Send an email to Haystack View Haystack's profile - 04 Nov 2014 10:24 - 49129 of 49133

Surely, you don't think UKIP could run the country. UKIP are a good protest party, but not capable of running anything.


Well it is B obvious that many think the tory party are a party of confidence tricksters who can't run the country.

They have fragmented it and are hell bent of dividing it even further.

They are alienating nearest neighbours and EU trading partners at any expense in order to an attempt to cling on to power,

It seems to many, that the only ones to have benefited from their "guile" is the small minority of wealthy financial backers who they hope will continue to support them.

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They seem unable to work in coalition with others.

The Home Office is in disarray and the party is jumping with joy for Theresa May ( a strong woman, who they see as a reincarnation of the "mummy" Margaret Thatcher) of who has demoralised those working in the "unit" and failed to fulfil the promises she has made.

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B. madness has set in!

Good one gf.

I hope we can look forward to another scandal, cos the bastards are still at it.

I do hope there are copies of the files outside the UK!

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If I was a betting man, at the moment I think it will be a coalition of Lab, SNP and Lib/Dem.

Their core ideologies seem similar.

With a decent majority it may allow sensible "moderate" policies, which considers the long term rather than the PR news bites of the present mob.

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(Moderate policies, such as hanging all tory members of the present cabinet. 8-) )

LOL........ that last line..

George Osborne, the Chancellor, will travel to Brussels on Friday for a meeting of EU finance ministers in an attempt to reduce the bill ahead of the deadline.

So we are going to pay it , but not yet and not so much. That's not what Cameron told us, he said it was unfair and we won't pay it . More votes for UKIP.