Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).

Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.

cheers GF.

This net contribution from EU migrants doesn't tell the real story. The migrants are often taking jobs that UK people could do. That is a net loss due to benefits paid out to the UK unemployed. It also doesn't take into consideration the knock on effects to infrastructure such as health and education, areas where there are shortages.

Slow down a bit TANKER I cant keep with you.

all my family RAF

GF WAITING FOR YOUR ANSWER WHEN DO WE SY ENOUGH IS ENOUGH

MrT .... why do you have to mention your poxy service record and that of your (grand)daughters almost every single day ...... it's awfully boring after the 12 time of telling

anyway, who actually cares whether she/they work in the armed forces or, for that matter, for a stockbroker in the city?
the guy in the city is probably in more danger of being run over by a bus or a taxi than your (grand)daughters getting wounded in action

cynic . gf ask the question you sad moron .
like everthing you do you avoid answering a question
when do we say we can take no more immigrants .

perhaps it is because I am proud to fight for my country
like buying a poppy and donating money to those that need help

I see that the newspapers have published some crap about how good letting in loads of migrants has been for Britain.....how they pay lots of taxes and contribute to the UK economy !.....really ???....well......some immigrants ...yes .....but not that illegal lot in Calais....that sort will just turn the UK into a dump......if I go that way and they cross the road : I'm going to have a job not running them over !...

Hey Cyners cool it mate, Im interested in history like TANKERS family I find it very interesting and relaxing compared to the normal stuff on here. I think also you should give
Members of the forces a lot of respect.

Maybe its just the way I was brought up with my dad being in the marines but we were always taught to respect people in the forces.

TANKER slow down bud,

when is enough enough?.......right good point made by RF above. They knicked all my stone flags 9 months ago during the night and druged the dogs.

Right Im going to have a ten minutes break TANKER and think about this deeply.

Ill get back to you, dont go away.

The Senate has gone to the Republicans. That means Obama cannot get any legislation passed for the next two years as he has lost control of both houses. Let this be a warning to us about a second elected chamber. The US now has a weak, lame duck President.

The second chamber is meant to keep the first in check.

O'bammy has made such a fist of it, nobody wants to support him.

it happens that poppy day, raf benevolent fund, lifeboats and air ambulance are on my hotlist of charities that i support well - as is st mungo's

on our cycling trips to france, we also invariably stop off at various war cemetries, and a few years ago i also visited dachau (very cathartic)

it also happens that i was honoured to play golf a few weeks ago with the chaps from headley court and their american counterparts

however, i don't drone on about it endlessly or even at all, nor similarly that my dad was in the merchant during the war and my uncle in tanks in north africa nor my relatives that died in concentration camps nor a couple that miraculously escaped

todays report on immigration no mention on the services under pressure for the locals who are suffering and can not even get to se their doctor for over two weeks
the report is crap how can they report facts when their are over 4 million illegal
immigrants in the uk were they do not even no were they are
total load of bollocks the whole report and the report leaders are all immigrants them selves it stinks of corruption and lies .
have they found out were all these illegals work and pay taxes because if they have then the companies they are working for are breaking the law

It's pretty obvious that for all the liberty that the USA represents : their political system with Senate....senators....etc....is far from perfect and that our British electoral system is far better.....(blimey....we are better at something).....

cynic you should be proud of you family them .those that died for the good should never be forgotten , and our children should never forget what they died for and the only way to do that is to talk and remind them of their short lives

There was a prison break and I saw a midget climb up the fence.

As he jumped down he sneered at me and I thought, well, that’s a little condescending.

suddenly a volte face from you then after all these months of shouting your head off about my family and others being a bunch of yellow-bellied scumbags for fleeing the pogroms and similar in poland and other countries ....

actually, my grandparents on both sides arrived in this country early in 20th century and in due course did pretty well in biz ......

and nor should you forget that in those days, there was no welfare state, but by and large the local (jewish) communities looked after their own

during the war, even those fleeing germany had to have guarantors before they were allowed entree

so all in all, about time you stopped being such a rabble-rousing, racist polemicist, all too often spreading inaccurate "facts"!

would you like me to expand further?

A second chamber is useful providing it does not have equal power to the first. If you have two chambers controlled by different parties then you get a stalemate. Our second chamber is largely a revising chamber to scrutinise legislation and amend it. Luckily, we have the Parliament Act to push through legislation that the Lords rejects. Balanced power between two chambers gives weak government even worse than a coalition.

TANKER...... right my policy................. stop all these Pakistanis coming into the country arranged marriages etc etc.

EEC .........NOW put quotas in and make would be immigrants prove they have a job here waiting for them and at least the minimum wage rate. A covering letter and a phone call needed plus a follow up visit to the employer required. No benefits at all bar the first 2 months for example to get them settled in a house etc etc. After that benefits based on there NI contributions.

By a quota I would say the average of what we have going out into EEC countries from here. Say a maximum of 75 thousand per year.

Dont forget I have 6 holiday homes spread through EEC countries, I dont want that cutting off.

No Child benefit or any other benefit to be sent home.

Declare they are behind the state and they will fight for Britain if called up for a war.

They are here to stay with exceptionals tolerated.